sd'sker Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 losing SUH will hurt, and i will miss watching him play. but i think our 'd' will overall be better. we have a lot of great talent coming back and our line will be great as well. losing SUH is bad, but the line overall will be better because of their experience. it will be stout, we will not have one player as dominant, but we will have a lot of players that will pick up the slack and create an equally stout line. all the good players on the line will be able to replace the one great player. the line played just as good against UT without SUH on the field. they will all have to play better to replace him, but i think they will. Quote Link to comment
HuskerfaninOkieland Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Well I found some of Warren Sapp's 3 year stats.... 176 tackles, 19.5 sacks, 4 forced fumbles, 4 fumbles recovered and 5 passes deflected. Interesting. Now we gotta dig in Suh's total stats for comparison. Suh's last 3 years 192 tackles, 20.5 sacks, 2 forced fumbles, 1 fumble recovered and 15 passes deflected Not sure if it was intentional or not, but there was no mention of INT's or TD's. Nonetheless, great stats! Quote Link to comment
cmb23 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Sorry if someone has posted something like this already...but if Heisman voters would pay attention to comparisons like this I don't think they could realistically say that it doesn't impress them. NDAMUKONG SUH'S SEASON STATS (from Huskers.com) 82 Total Tackles 23 Tackles For Loss 92 Yards Lost 12 Sacks 77 Yards Lost 24 QB Hurries 1 INT 1 Forced Fumble 10 Pass Breakups 3 Blocked Kicks Alabama's Starting Front (They list running a 3-4 on rivals.com, but to give them some help this includes their top 4 statistical D-Lineman: Cody, Deadrick, Dareus, Washington) - They are the #1 "TOTAL" defense in the country... 98 Tackles 23.5 Tackles for Loss 91 Yards Lost 9.5 Sacks 65 Yards Lost 10 QB Hurries 0 INT 0 Forced Fumbles 4 Pass Breakups 3 Blocked Kicks *Terrance Cody...who was supposed to be the next best lineman to Suh in the country, had 25 Tackles, 6 Tackles for loss, ZERO sacks, 0 INT, 1 Pass Breakups, 3 QB HUrries and 2 Blocked kicks. Quote Link to comment
Nexus Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Yeah someone already posted up those stats the other night. They also included Florida & Texas as well. It was quite impressive. Quote Link to comment
cmb23 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 I see, sorry. Since the game and Suh's awards the number of new threads is boggling. Quote Link to comment
Nexus Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 I see, sorry. Since the game and Suh's awards the number of new threads is boggling. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. Here's the other thread. http://www.huskerboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=39986 Quote Link to comment
cmb23 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Yeah I just saw it. I guess we were looking at a couple diff things though. A couple numbers differ but nothing major. At least I broke out what "Mount Cody" did...0 SACKS. Guess that is what a 'traditional' Dlineman is supposed to do...take up a bunch of blockers so the LB's can get the sacks. Quote Link to comment
blkshrtz Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Yeah someone already posted up those stats the other night. They also included Florida & Texas as well. It was quite impressive. Hey Nexus is there way you send me a clip that you got up of McCoy being thrown to the ground? That is badass Quote Link to comment
Matt634 Posted December 11, 2009 Author Share Posted December 11, 2009 I like where your head's at cmb23. Quote Link to comment
huzkerbob Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 So, I did a quick comparison of Suh to the top 4 starters from Bama, Texas, and Florida. Bama Season Totals: 98 tkl - 23.5 tfl - 9.5 sac - 20 qbh - 5 pbu - 0 int - 1 ff - 3 blk Texas Season Totals: 112 tkl - 33 tfl - 14 sac - 48 qbh - 5 pbu - 0 int - 1 ff - 0 bkl Florida Season Totals: 116 tkl - 25.5 tfl - 15.5 sac - 10 qbh - 7 pbu - 0 int - 2 ff - 0 blk Suh's Season Totals: 82 tkl - 23 tfl - 12 sac - 24 qbh - 10 pbu - 1 int - 1 ff - 3 blk It's hard to appreciate how dominant a player Suh has been. I tried looking for Sapp's numbers from the 94 season to compare, but I didn't have any luck. Regardless, we just saw one of the greatest performances from a defensive lineman EVER. Congrats Matt, it looks like your stat lines are getting around. It appears they made there way to doubleextrapoint, and from there where quoted in the comment section of a rivals article about Suh. Good job man, your on your way to being the next Schwab! John S.5. Posted by John S. Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:39 pm EST Matt, Suh's stats went beyond merely "good." The guys at the Cornhusker blog "Double Extra Point" copied the following comparison from a Husker message board. Suh's stat's were transcendent. Alabama D-Line 98 Tkl, 23.5 TFL, 9.5 Sk, 20 QBH, 5 PBU, 0 Int, 1 FF, 3 Blk Florida D-Line 112 Tkl, 33 TFL, 14 Sk, 48 QBH, 5 PBU, 0 Int, 1 FF, 0 Blk Texas D-Line 116 Tkl, 25.5 TFL, 15.5 Sk, 10 QBH, 7 PBU, 0 Int, 2 FF, 0 Blk Ndamukong Suh 82 Tkl, 23 TFL, 12 Sk, 24 QBH, 10 PBU, 1 Int, 1 FF, 3 Blk http://www.doubleextrapoint.com/2009-artic...suh-crewed.html Quote Link to comment
Matt634 Posted December 12, 2009 Author Share Posted December 12, 2009 HuskerNation definitely gets around. I've seen the stats comparison posted several times in various comment sections to Suh articles on the web. Good stuff. I'm going to be disappointed if he doesn't win tomorrow night, which is crazy - a few days ago I was happy he was even invited. --Edit-- I found the Huskerpedia thread doubleextrapoint.com got their stats from: http://64.131.67.10/vbbs/showthread.php?t=77696 I hope somebody in the real media starts using it tomorrow on award day. It'll be the greatest achievement of my life that no one ever knew about. Quote Link to comment
Matt634 Posted December 12, 2009 Author Share Posted December 12, 2009 Ran a quick google search and the stat comparison has found its way into debates on several different message/comment boards. Some of the post is getting lost in translation though. Many Husker fans are arguing that Suh's line was better or equal to the THREE starters from Alabama. Posters are assuming three because Alabama runs a 3-4 defense. However, to stay consistent regardless of the defensive set, I used the top FOUR leading tacklers from each school's D line. Alabama: Cody, Dareus, Deaderick, and Washington Texas: Alexander, Houston, Acho, and Jones Florida: Howard, Sanders, Cunningham, and Dunlap If I would have known the legs on this, I would have been clearer in my methodology up front. Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 I took your stats to another board I frequent. My buddies over there are in Suh's corner - two Florida fans, two Oregon fans, an Oregon State fan, a VT fan... they're all converted. Didn't take much doing, either. I think there's going to be a pretty big backlash if Suh doesn't win this year. This could forever change the Heisman - or do it in. Quote Link to comment
roundegotrip Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 I was just looking at the stats for Texas' defense, and by my count Houston, Acho, Alexander and Jones combined for 173 tackles, 47 for loss, and 21 sacks. ??? Quote Link to comment
Matt634 Posted December 12, 2009 Author Share Posted December 12, 2009 I used the stats listed on the team's official website. It's possible, probably likely based on your info, that the school did not update the stats to include all the games. Unlike Alabama and Florida, the Texas official website only listed individual stats in the players bios, which complicated things. I checked them again after your post and still got the same numbers, but I noticed none of them mentioned the CCG. Quote Link to comment
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