Missouri season reveiw

[sd'sker]

This guy actually laid it out pretty straight, except for this gem:

 

The season started with a huge win against a dark horse contender for the Big 11 title.

 

Maybe you could have said Illinois was a dark horse title contender after the second week of the season, but after that they had 5 straight losses and finished the season 3-9.

In all fairness, at the time of the Ill/MU game, Illinois was considered a dark horse for the Big 10+1.

True and I can completely understand that. My point is, I don't think a writer can create a season review and then put that in there. It's rather misleading to say it at the end of the season after they went 3-9. I can completely understand him saying it if he wrote this after Week 2 or Week 3, but not at this point.

isn't every team in the big 10 a dark horse contender throughout the year?

 

 

also, i think that if you were a dark horse contender at the beginning of the year, then at the end of the year, you were still a dark horse contender at the beginning of the year. i get your point, and it was misleading, but not necessarily inaccurate. it would be like saying kansas was supposed to be a challenge for NU, as they were predicted to compete for the North. they were never in contention for the North, but there did have that expectation and potential attached at the beginning of the year and that label remained with them. i am just offering the writers perspective, even though i do not necessarily disagree with you.

[rcruter]

unfortunately there were several "pinkel factor" losses to take away from what was a transitional year. losing to nu when they were winning handily is a classic pulling a pinkel. tigers had throttled the huskers easily and were winning the kicking game, with a baby qb who was suhdified and hobbling should have kept it more conservative and won out.

 

d coaches didn't have tigers prepared at all for tx, not pressing wr's was huge mistake and were outcoached overall. okie state game was very competitive and if kemp catches easy td pass game is different but he didn't. then they were outcoached, again and oks made good adjustments, mu didn't, again and they were put away easily. Baylor was a travesty, winning 27-13 and dominating the game, bu saw what worked with 3rd string qb, throw it short with huge cushion db's gave up, mu didn't adjust, again and got beaten, at home by the dormat of the conference. classic pinkel factor loss to an inferior team.

 

navy game exposed inexperienced coordinators who couldn't make adjustments a JFl coach would have, refused to take what was given on O or put enough numbers on edge to stop option, which iowa did against a superior team running triple option in GT and stopped them for most of game, it just wasn't that hard.

 

MU has a great recruiting class coming and will have a huge edge in skill players over rest of north and it's not even close and best returning QB in conference but with same coordinators who just arn't very good not sure if it will make much difference. fans are desperately defending bad coaching and are happy with mediocrity, pinkel has no clue as to what would make a good d and no d coaches that know either, so that will offset superior talent. If Gabbart starts picking up secondary receivers and stays healthy he will have a monster year, has a fleet of very fast, big recievers for next year already with several good ones in new class as well. won't mean much if they can't stop anybody.

 

bo is a superior schemer and defensive strategist but his recruiting of offensive talent is strangely not good. what's up with that? no qb in class and medicore wr's? too bad his staff couldn't keep original commits and they would have had something. Green will have to produce as Lee is what we thought he was, just a guy. If green can take the job and show some of his very good talent, would make a huge difference for nu. best thing for huskers is pinkel is too loyal to really good guys he has for assitants but they arn't coaches good enough to make a difference, they are just a bunch of guys who can recruit but not coach up the talent they attract. Pinkel's stubborness and ineffectiveness on gameday is only reason Mu won't get past the level they are now. But it's NU's opportunity. Rest of north didn't recruit anyone and won't do much.

[carlfense]

unfortunately there were several "pinkel factor" losses to take away from what was a transitional year. losing to nu when they were winning handily is a classic pulling a pinkel. tigers had throttled the huskers easily and were winning the kicking game, with a baby qb who was suhdified and hobbling should have kept it more conservative and won out.

***snip***

MU has a great recruiting class coming and will have a huge edge in skill players over rest of north and it's not even close and best returning QB in conference but with same coordinators who just arn't very good not sure if it will make much difference. fans are desperately defending bad coaching and are happy with mediocrity, pinkel has no clue as to what would make a good d and no d coaches that know either, so that will offset superior talent. If Gabbart starts picking up secondary receivers and stays healthy he will have a monster year, has a fleet of very fast, big recievers for next year already with several good ones in new class as well. won't mean much if they can't stop anybody.

***snip***

 

And so the Missouri Myth lives on. Many Missouri fans seem to think that they were winning easily when an entirely fluke quarter robbed them of victory. Here's a hint rcruter, MU was never throttling Nebraska.

 

Let's look a little closer. Nebraska out gained Missouri rushing. Nebraska out gained Missouri passing. Missouri's offense scored 3 actual points. Gabbert was clearly down before crossing the goal line and the 2 points goes to your special teams. Even with the scoreboard saying 12-0 in the third . . . that is nowhere close to a throttling. If 12-0 is a throttling, a 15 point win (like NU 27 - MU - 12) is an embarrassing demolition of Missouri.

 

Finally, I don't buy your "huge edge in skill players over the rest of the north and it's not close" argument. Your wide receivers are probably better than Nebraska's. Our running backs are far better than MU's. Your QB is better than Lee/Green, but he is not close to being the best in the Big 12. Sheffield and Johnson are certainly better. Gilbert is probably better. (not to mention you are going to lose at least two 4 star offensive recruits because they won't qualify academically.)

 

MU will be an also ran until they start paying serious attention to defense and a running game. A good QB and good WR with mediocrity across the rest of the team will only win on the playground.

[RockyMountainOySker]

unfortunately there were several "pinkel factor" losses to take away from what was a transitional year. losing to nu when they were winning handily is a classic pulling a pinkel. tigers had throttled the huskers easily and were winning the kicking game, with a baby qb who was suhdified and hobbling should have kept it more conservative and won out.

 

MU has a great recruiting class coming and will have a huge edge in skill players over rest of north and it's not even close and best returning QB in conference but with same coordinators who just arn't very good not sure if it will make much difference. fans are desperately defending bad coaching and are happy with mediocrity, pinkel has no clue as to what would make a good d and no d coaches that know either, so that will offset superior talent. If Gabbart starts picking up secondary receivers and stays healthy he will have a monster year, has a fleet of very fast, big recievers for next year already with several good ones in new class as well. won't mean much if they can't stop anybody.

 

bo is a superior schemer and defensive strategist but his recruiting of offensive talent is strangely not good. what's up with that? no qb in class and medicore wr's? too bad his staff couldn't keep original commits and they would have had something. Green will have to produce as Lee is what we thought he was, just a guy. If green can take the job and show some of his very good talent, would make a huge difference for nu. best thing for huskers is pinkel is too loyal to really good guys he has for assitants but they arn't coaches good enough to make a difference, they are just a bunch of guys who can recruit but not coach up the talent they attract. Pinkel's stubborness and ineffectiveness on gameday is only reason Mu won't get past the level they are now. But it's NU's opportunity. Rest of north didn't recruit anyone and won't do much.

 

ahhh.....so refreshing to see your vast knowledge of football (and the english language) back on display here on huskerboard. may i remind you that you are speaking so highly of school that just got humbled by a service academy. Not to mention, this particular service academy's game plan is written on opposing coaches foreheads weeks before the game.

 

now lets talk recruiting. mu's class is as good as they've ever had. it also has very few defensive recruits, very similar to how nu's class lacks offensive recruits. if you knew your team or our team, you would realize the number of returning players (defense for mu and offense for nu) is why the classes are filled that way. pelini is not a bad offensive recruiter. he picked the guys we have because that's what we need. as far keeping our committed recruits.....it might help we we stayed away from 1 family......considering we only had one other decommit (CC - which most nu fans will tell you is just fine).

 

i for one say you might want to take off your black and gold colored spectacles and come back to earth.

 

you can have the skill players you speak of if they can make grades...it's very well known that 2 of your 4 kids most likely will not be on campus next year. i'll take my defense over your vastly superior (?) skill players any day.

 

you want to know how bad your defense is? like the above poster said, the worst offense nu's had in decades, out-gained your skill players in rushing and passing. your team let nu score 27 points in a frickin monsoon. wow.....i'd be a little more reserved when talking smack my friend.

[kc_husker]

unfortunately there were several "pinkel factor" losses to take away from what was a transitional year. losing to nu when they were winning handily is a classic pulling a pinkel. tigers had throttled the huskers easily and were winning the kicking game, with a baby qb who was suhdified and hobbling should have kept it more conservative and won out.

 

d coaches didn't have tigers prepared at all for tx, not pressing wr's was huge mistake and were outcoached overall. okie state game was very competitive and if kemp catches easy td pass game is different but he didn't. then they were outcoached, again and oks made good adjustments, mu didn't, again and they were put away easily. Baylor was a travesty, winning 27-13 and dominating the game, bu saw what worked with 3rd string qb, throw it short with huge cushion db's gave up, mu didn't adjust, again and got beaten, at home by the dormat of the conference. classic pinkel factor loss to an inferior team.

 

navy game exposed inexperienced coordinators who couldn't make adjustments a JFl coach would have, refused to take what was given on O or put enough numbers on edge to stop option, which iowa did against a superior team running triple option in GT and stopped them for most of game, it just wasn't that hard.

 

MU has a great recruiting class coming and will have a huge edge in skill players over rest of north and it's not even close and best returning QB in conference but with same coordinators who just arn't very good not sure if it will make much difference. fans are desperately defending bad coaching and are happy with mediocrity, pinkel has no clue as to what would make a good d and no d coaches that know either, so that will offset superior talent. If Gabbart starts picking up secondary receivers and stays healthy he will have a monster year, has a fleet of very fast, big recievers for next year already with several good ones in new class as well. won't mean much if they can't stop anybody.

 

bo is a superior schemer and defensive strategist but his recruiting of offensive talent is strangely not good. what's up with that? no qb in class and medicore wr's? too bad his staff couldn't keep original commits and they would have had something. Green will have to produce as Lee is what we thought he was, just a guy. If green can take the job and show some of his very good talent, would make a huge difference for nu. best thing for huskers is pinkel is too loyal to really good guys he has for assitants but they arn't coaches good enough to make a difference, they are just a bunch of guys who can recruit but not coach up the talent they attract. Pinkel's stubborness and ineffectiveness on gameday is only reason Mu won't get past the level they are now. But it's NU's opportunity. Rest of north didn't recruit anyone and won't do much.

 

 

 

All of them so called skilled people looked really good against Navy

 

[sd'sker]

unfortunately there were several "pinkel factor" losses to take away from what was a transitional year. losing to nu when they were winning handily is a classic pulling a pinkel. tigers had throttled the huskers easily and were winning the kicking game, with a baby qb who was suhdified and hobbling should have kept it more conservative and won out.

 

d coaches didn't have tigers prepared at all for tx, not pressing wr's was huge mistake and were outcoached overall. okie state game was very competitive and if kemp catches easy td pass game is different but he didn't. then they were outcoached, again and oks made good adjustments, mu didn't, again and they were put away easily. Baylor was a travesty, winning 27-13 and dominating the game, bu saw what worked with 3rd string qb, throw it short with huge cushion db's gave up, mu didn't adjust, again and got beaten, at home by the dormat of the conference. classic pinkel factor loss to an inferior team.

 

navy game exposed inexperienced coordinators who couldn't make adjustments a JFl coach would have, refused to take what was given on O or put enough numbers on edge to stop option, which iowa did against a superior team running triple option in GT and stopped them for most of game, it just wasn't that hard.

 

MU has a great recruiting class coming and will have a huge edge in skill players over rest of north and it's not even close and best returning QB in conference but with same coordinators who just arn't very good not sure if it will make much difference. fans are desperately defending bad coaching and are happy with mediocrity, pinkel has no clue as to what would make a good d and no d coaches that know either, so that will offset superior talent. If Gabbart starts picking up secondary receivers and stays healthy he will have a monster year, has a fleet of very fast, big recievers for next year already with several good ones in new class as well. won't mean much if they can't stop anybody.

 

bo is a superior schemer and defensive strategist but his recruiting of offensive talent is strangely not good. what's up with that? no qb in class and medicore wr's? too bad his staff couldn't keep original commits and they would have had something. Green will have to produce as Lee is what we thought he was, just a guy. If green can take the job and show some of his very good talent, would make a huge difference for nu. best thing for huskers is pinkel is too loyal to really good guys he has for assitants but they arn't coaches good enough to make a difference, they are just a bunch of guys who can recruit but not coach up the talent they attract. Pinkel's stubborness and ineffectiveness on gameday is only reason Mu won't get past the level they are now. But it's NU's opportunity. Rest of north didn't recruit anyone and won't do much.

 

 

 

All of them so called skilled people looked really good against Navy

 

Maybe he was speaking generally when referring to “skilled players.” Like they are good at art, crafts, the piano, and so on and so forth…

[manitobahusker]

unfortunately there were several "pinkel factor" losses to take away from what was a transitional year. losing to nu when they were winning handily is a classic pulling a pinkel. tigers had throttled the huskers easily and were winning the kicking game, with a baby qb who was suhdified and hobbling should have kept it more conservative and won out.

 

MU has a great recruiting class coming and will have a huge edge in skill players over rest of north and it's not even close and best returning QB in conference but with same coordinators who just arn't very good not sure if it will make much difference. fans are desperately defending bad coaching and are happy with mediocrity, pinkel has no clue as to what would make a good d and no d coaches that know either, so that will offset superior talent. If Gabbart starts picking up secondary receivers and stays healthy he will have a monster year, has a fleet of very fast, big recievers for next year already with several good ones in new class as well. won't mean much if they can't stop anybody.

 

bo is a superior schemer and defensive strategist but his recruiting of offensive talent is strangely not good. what's up with that? no qb in class and medicore wr's? too bad his staff couldn't keep original commits and they would have had something. Green will have to produce as Lee is what we thought he was, just a guy. If green can take the job and show some of his very good talent, would make a huge difference for nu. best thing for huskers is pinkel is too loyal to really good guys he has for assitants but they arn't coaches good enough to make a difference, they are just a bunch of guys who can recruit but not coach up the talent they attract. Pinkel's stubborness and ineffectiveness on gameday is only reason Mu won't get past the level they are now. But it's NU's opportunity. Rest of north didn't recruit anyone and won't do much.

 

ahhh.....so refreshing to see your vast knowledge of football (and the english language) back on display here on huskerboard. may i remind you that you are speaking so highly of school that just got humbled by a service academy. Not to mention, this particular service academy's game plan is written on opposing coaches foreheads weeks before the game.

 

now lets talk recruiting. mu's class is as good as they've ever had. it also has very few defensive recruits, very similar to how nu's class lacks offensive recruits. if you knew your team or our team, you would realize the number of returning players (defense for mu and offense for nu) is why the classes are filled that way. pelini is not a bad offensive recruiter. he picked the guys we have because that's what we need. as far keeping our committed recruits.....it might help we we stayed away from 1 family......considering we only had one other decommit (CC - which most nu fans will tell you is just fine).

 

i for one say you might want to take off your black and gold colored spectacles and come back to earth.

 

you can have the skill players you speak of if they can make grades...it's very well known that 2 of your 4 kids most likely will not be on campus next year. i'll take my defense over your vastly superior (?) skill players any day.

 

you want to know how bad your defense is? like the above poster said, the worst offense nu's had in decades, out-gained your skill players in rushing and passing. your team let nu score 27 points in a frickin monsoon. wow.....i'd be a little more reserved when talking smack my friend.

 

bro how can you say that nebraska wasn't getting there ass handed to them for 3 quarters of that game, offensively they could not move the ball and the only reason Mizzou lost that game was the same reason that original poster mentioned a completely stupid offensive coordinator. After the Blaine Gabbert threw that first INT he was rattled and nebraska smelled blood and attacked him with everything they got!!! im telling you if Mizzou stuck to a simple game plan and ran the ball out in the 4th quarter they would of won

[carlfense]

SkerChicago: we've actually had 4 decommits. All were 4 stars.

 

The two you didn't list were Keeston Terry and Anterio Sloan (if Sloan's commitment was ever accepted . . . which is another possibility.)

 

Everything else you said was spot on.

[carlfense]

bro how can you say that nebraska wasn't getting there ass handed to them for 3 quarters of that game, offensively they could not move the ball and the only reason Mizzou lost that game was the same reason that original poster mentioned a completely stupid offensive coordinator. After the Blaine Gabbert threw that first INT he was rattled and nebraska smelled blood and attacked him with everything they got!!! im telling you if Mizzou stuck to a simple game plan and ran the ball out in the 4th quarter they would of won

 

I'll tell you how you can say that Nebraska wasn't getting it's butt handed to them: the game is 4 quarters long. And regarding your last sentence, Missouri CANNOT run the ball with a simple game plan. They couldn't do it against a two man DL against Navy, and they absolutely could not do it against a brutal 4 man NU defensive line. It simply wasn't going to happen. Since you are almost certainly a Missouri fan (because this is your first post and you are here defending a MU troll) please tell me a game in Pinkel's tenure where he has been able to run the clock out and milk a 5 point lead for an entire quarter. (Only a five point lead because Niles Paul's first touchdown was NOT because of an MU turnover. It was a 56 yard touchdown pass which made the score 12-7.)

[RockyMountainOySker]

SkerChicago: we've actually had 4 decommits. All were 4 stars.

 

The two you didn't list were Keeston Terry and Anterio Sloan (if Sloan's commitment was ever accepted . . . which is another possibility.)

 

Everything else you said was spot on.

 

haha! how could i forget those guys? thanks for catching that.

 

i thought we cooled on anterio and parted ways on those terms. your right i still missed those....

[fro daddy]

bro how can you say that nebraska wasn't getting there ass handed to them for 3 quarters of that game, offensively they could not move the ball and the only reason Mizzou lost that game was the same reason that original poster mentioned a completely stupid offensive coordinator. After the Blaine Gabbert threw that first INT he was rattled and nebraska smelled blood and attacked him with everything they got!!! im telling you if Mizzou stuck to a simple game plan and ran the ball out in the 4th quarter they would of won

 

I'll tell you how you can say that Nebraska wasn't getting it's butt handed to them: the game is 4 quarters long. And regarding your last sentence, Missouri CANNOT run the ball with a simple game plan. They couldn't do it against a two man DL against Navy, and they absolutely could not do it against a brutal 4 man NU defensive line. It simply wasn't going to happen. Since you are almost certainly a Missouri fan (because this is your first post and you are here defending a MU troll) please tell me a game in Pinkel's tenure where he has been able to run the clock out and milk a 5 point lead for an entire quarter. (Only a five point lead because Niles Paul's first touchdown was NOT because of an MU turnover. It was a 56 yard touchdown pass which made the score 12-7.)

 

carl, big difference in cant run the ball, and wont run the ball. That is all.

[RedDenver]

bro how can you say that nebraska wasn't getting there ass handed to them for 3 quarters of that game, offensively they could not move the ball and the only reason Mizzou lost that game was the same reason that original poster mentioned a completely stupid offensive coordinator. After the Blaine Gabbert threw that first INT he was rattled and nebraska smelled blood and attacked him with everything they got!!! im telling you if Mizzou stuck to a simple game plan and ran the ball out in the 4th quarter they would of won

NU's offense and special teams were certainly playing poorly for the first 3 quarters, but the defense was playing quite well. As another poster mentioned, the score was actually 12-7 when Gabbert threw the first INT, so it wasn't like Mizzou could simply run out the clock with an entire quarter left to play. The fact is none of us will ever know what would have happened if MU runs the ball instead of the costly INT's. NU mounted a strong rushing attack for our last score, so that might have happened and Mizzou loses anyway. Or MU gets their running game going and puts up some points. No way to tell. But NU had scored before the INT, so it's not as cut-and-dried as you're making it out to be.

[fro daddy]

bro how can you say that nebraska wasn't getting there ass handed to them for 3 quarters of that game, offensively they could not move the ball and the only reason Mizzou lost that game was the same reason that original poster mentioned a completely stupid offensive coordinator. After the Blaine Gabbert threw that first INT he was rattled and nebraska smelled blood and attacked him with everything they got!!! im telling you if Mizzou stuck to a simple game plan and ran the ball out in the 4th quarter they would of won

NU's offense and special teams were certainly playing poorly for the first 3 quarters, but the defense was playing quite well. As another poster mentioned, the score was actually 12-7 when Gabbert threw the first INT, so it wasn't like Mizzou could simply run out the clock with an entire quarter left to play. The fact is none of us will ever know what would have happened if MU runs the ball instead of the costly INT's. NU mounted a strong rushing attack for our last score, so that might have happened and Mizzou loses anyway. Or MU gets their running game going and puts up some points. No way to tell. But NU had scored before the INT, so it's not as cut-and-dried as you're making it out to be.

 

good points red,

Fact is that MU collapsed in the 4th quarter on O and D. Busted coverage results in TD, next play for MU is a pick and short field. NE scores on a TD pass that 2 defenders should have picked off. In a matter of 3 mins MU went from 12-0 to 12-13. Then they were truely pressing. I think by the last drive that NU ran it in, The MU D had lost all hope. And as anybody knows, when you play like that you are in trouble. Mu basically had a complete meltdown. Nobody knows what happens if MU doesnt blow coverage on that 3rd and 8 play. Maybe MU wins, maybe not. Its not guarented. The only thing we know for sure is MU pissed away that 4th Qtr. and NU jumped all over it.

[RedDenver]

good points red,

Fact is that MU collapsed in the 4th quarter on O and D. Busted coverage results in TD, next play for MU is a pick and short field. NE scores on a TD pass that 2 defenders should have picked off. In a matter of 3 mins MU went from 12-0 to 12-13. Then they were truely pressing. I think by the last drive that NU ran it in, The MU D had lost all hope. And as anybody knows, when you play like that you are in trouble. Mu basically had a complete meltdown. Nobody knows what happens if MU doesnt blow coverage on that 3rd and 8 play. Maybe MU wins, maybe not. Its not guarented. The only thing we know for sure is MU pissed away that 4th Qtr. and NU jumped all over it.

Yep. And it's reminscent of the 2003 NU-MU game (except the good guys won in 09 ). NU enters the 4th quarter leading 24-14 and ends up losing 41-24 because of some big plays on offense by MU and turnovers.

[RockyMountainOySker]

bro how can you say that nebraska wasn't getting there ass handed to them for 3 quarters of that game, offensively they could not move the ball and the only reason Mizzou lost that game was the same reason that original poster mentioned a completely stupid offensive coordinator. After the Blaine Gabbert threw that first INT he was rattled and nebraska smelled blood and attacked him with everything they got!!! im telling you if Mizzou stuck to a simple game plan and ran the ball out in the 4th quarter they would of won

NU's offense and special teams were certainly playing poorly for the first 3 quarters, but the defense was playing quite well. As another poster mentioned, the score was actually 12-7 when Gabbert threw the first INT, so it wasn't like Mizzou could simply run out the clock with an entire quarter left to play. The fact is none of us will ever know what would have happened if MU runs the ball instead of the costly INT's. NU mounted a strong rushing attack for our last score, so that might have happened and Mizzou loses anyway. Or MU gets their running game going and puts up some points. No way to tell. But NU had scored before the INT, so it's not as cut-and-dried as you're making it out to be.

 

good points red,

Fact is that MU collapsed in the 4th quarter on O and D. Busted coverage results in TD, next play for MU is a pick and short field. NE scores on a TD pass that 2 defenders should have picked off. In a matter of 3 mins MU went from 12-0 to 12-13. Then they were truely pressing. I think by the last drive that NU ran it in, The MU D had lost all hope. And as anybody knows, when you play like that you are in trouble. Mu basically had a complete meltdown. Nobody knows what happens if MU doesnt blow coverage on that 3rd and 8 play. Maybe MU wins, maybe not. Its not guarented. The only thing we know for sure is MU pissed away that 4th Qtr. and NU jumped all over it.

 

I guess I missing this dominate performance by MU in the game at all. 12 points through 3 quarters is hardly dominate. I also don't remember your offense moving the ball up and down the field all night. The most dominate part of the first 3 quarters was how bad our offense played (giving some small small credit to your defense).

 

The blow coverage play was being set up all night. That play was the first time in the game that Shawn said go long and allowed Zach to throw it long. Your safeties were jumping the shorter route the entire night. The blow coverage happened cause SW made a smart play call at the right time.

 

What makes you think MU would have been able to run the ball in this game even if they tried? No other team was able to all year.....and yet suddenly MU could have if they would have tried? I don't think so......

 

I agree with your statement about the 2nd TD and the 2 defenders that should have picked off the pass. Totally agree....after watching it again I was blown away that we were able to get a TD here. Just bad play by your dback and safety.