carlfense Posted October 1, 2012 Author Share Posted October 1, 2012 Since you decided to come back, what does "yes and no mean" when I asked if you were a lawyer? Just a clerk with a dream? The answer was yes to your question about my profession. The "no" was a response to your guess about my age group. Why do you care? (Also, it's pretty low of you to disparage clerks with dreams. Titles don't make a person more intelligent.) You piqued my curiosity so I have to ask. How is FAIR a hate group? Ask yourself why they solicited over $1.2 million in donations from a neo-nazi group. Either way . . . given your tone about those durned illegals I can hardly be surprised at your preferred source material. Link to comment
huskerXman Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Not because the SPLC said it. Because FAIR's founder said it: Based on Tanton's personal correspondence, lodged at the University of Michigan's Bentley Historical Library, the report shows that Tanton has been in the midst of the White nationalist scene for decades. He has corresponded frequently with leading white nationalist thinkers, race scientists and Holocaust deniers. He encouraged a major donor to read the work of a radical anti-Semitic professor to "give you a new understanding of the Jewish outlook on life." And he suggested that the board of FAIR, on which he sits, discuss the professor's theories on the Jews. Tanton's organizations have been high-profile players in the immigration debate. FAIR officials, for example, have testified numerous times before Congress. The organization is listed as a hate group by the SPLC. Other groups founded by Tanton include the Center for Immigration Studies, a group whose studies are often quoted by the media, and the Restrictionist NumbersUSA. Despite the veneer of respectability presented by these groups, it's difficult to misconstrue Tanton's words in a Dec. 10, 1993, letter to Garrett Hardin, a controversial ecology professor. "I've come to the point of view that for European-American society and culture to persist requires a European-American majority, and a clear one at that," Tanton wrote. On Jan. 26, 1996, he wrote Roy Beck, head of NumbersUSA (and then an employee of Tanton's foundation U.S. Inc.), questioning the ability of Latinos to govern California. Tanton wondered "whether the minorities who are going to inherit California (85% of the lower-grade school children are now 'minorities' -- demography is destiny) can run an advanced society?" Tanton and FAIR often assert they are being unfairly attacked by their critics, but Tanton's own words offer the strongest evidence to the contrary. LINK Thank you, I was wrong about this group. Thanks for pointing that out. I won't be using that group any more. That still doesn't change the fact it does happen. Link to comment
knapplc Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 That still doesn't change the fact it does happen. Nobody has ever said it didn't. Just that it's not a problem big enough to warrant the draconian measures being taken to "fix" the problem. Link to comment
huskerXman Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Since you decided to come back, what does "yes and no mean" when I asked if you were a lawyer? Just a clerk with a dream? The answer was yes to your question about my profession. The "no" was a response to your guess about my age group. Why do you care? (Also, it's pretty low of you to disparage clerks with dreams. Titles don't make a person more intelligent.) You piqued my curiosity so I have to ask. How is FAIR a hate group? Ask yourself why they solicited over $1.2 million in donations from a neo-nazi group. Either way . . . given your tone about those durned illegals I can hardly be surprised at your preferred source material. I would tread lightly with what you are trying to say. Also, please point to where I disparaged anyone? Thanks. Link to comment
huskerXman Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 That still doesn't change the fact it does happen. Nobody has ever said it didn't. Just that it's not a problem big enough to warrant the draconian measures being taken to "fix" the problem. again I disagree.. I think it is bigger than they would want you to believe, but we will only go round and round about this. Link to comment
knapplc Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 That still doesn't change the fact it does happen. Nobody has ever said it didn't. Just that it's not a problem big enough to warrant the draconian measures being taken to "fix" the problem. again I disagree.. I think it is bigger than they would want you to believe, but we will only go round and round about this. There is no proof of what you believe. And whenever you try to pony up proof, it's easily debunked - or worse, shown to be sourced from hate groups. People want to believe many things. You want to believe that illegal aliens are voting in American elections in large numbers. You have offered as much proof of a huge problem as Loch Ness monster enthusiasts have shown of Nessie, or UFOlogists have shown of UFO visitations. Without proof, these things remain myths - just like large-scale illegal alien voting. 1 Link to comment
huskerXman Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 That still doesn't change the fact it does happen. Nobody has ever said it didn't. Just that it's not a problem big enough to warrant the draconian measures being taken to "fix" the problem. again I disagree.. I think it is bigger than they would want you to believe, but we will only go round and round about this. There is no proof of what you believe. And whenever you try to pony up proof, it's easily debunked - or worse, shown to be sourced from hate groups. People want to believe many things. You want to believe that illegal aliens are voting in American elections in large numbers. You have offered as much proof of a huge problem as Loch Ness monster enthusiasts have shown of Nessie, or UFOlogists have shown of UFO visitations. Without proof, these things remain myths - just like large-scale illegal alien voting. How about the sites from ICE? Are those fake as well? how about the youtube video? Link to comment
knapplc Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 How about the sites from ICE? Are those fake as well? how about the youtube video? That still doesn't change the fact it does happen. Nobody has ever said it didn't. Just that it's not a problem big enough to warrant the draconian measures being taken to "fix" the problem. Link to comment
carlfense Posted October 1, 2012 Author Share Posted October 1, 2012 Also, please point to where I disparaged anyone? Thanks. I read this as not exactly complimentary of clerks . . . Since you decided to come back, what does "yes and no mean" when I asked if you were a lawyer? Just a clerk with a dream? My sincerest apologies if you intended otherwise. Link to comment
carlfense Posted October 1, 2012 Author Share Posted October 1, 2012 I would tread lightly with what you are trying to say. Would you? Link to comment
huskerXman Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 I would tread lightly with what you are trying to say. Would you? you said you are a lawyer, ever heard of cyber libel? just giving you friendly advice.. be careful Link to comment
carlfense Posted October 1, 2012 Author Share Posted October 1, 2012 ever heard of cyber libel? I have. Haven't seen any in this thread. I did see a felony . . . but you shrugged that one off. Link to comment
huskerXman Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 ever heard of cyber libel? I have. Haven't seen any in this thread. I did see a felony . . . but you shrugged that one off. once again you claim something that was never said. If you really are a lawyer I bet you here "objection, sustained" A LOT. Link to comment
carlfense Posted October 1, 2012 Author Share Posted October 1, 2012 I bet you here "objection, sustained" A LOT. hear "objection, sustained." Link to comment
huskerXman Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 I bet you here "objection, sustained" A LOT. hear "objection, sustained." lol, working and posting on a message board doesn't mix. Link to comment
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