Good job Omaha

[HSKR]

http://www.ketv.com/news/politics/interim-fire-chief-confident-in-departments-budget/-/9674400/21669452/-/gxfdv2z/-/index.html

 

Getting rid of the old fire chief so you can actually try to meet your budget. I do kind of feel sorry for the old chief. Not sure how he is going to make it living off of a measly $130K a year pension.

 

There isn't a bigger screw job to taxpayers at the local level then what cities throw away at these type of pensions. The irony is how all the flaming liberals scream when anyone in the private sector makes that kind of money yet when government employees do, it's fine. There isn't a government job in the entire state of Nebraska that deserves that kind of pension, not even close.

 

 

 

I'd guess getting rid of him had more to do with this than anything.

 

http://www.wowt.com/news/headlines/9204832.html

 

"the latest analysis of the police and fire pension plan shows that it is under-funded by more than $320 million. That's $40 million worse than projected last year."

 

Highway robbery.

[rawhide]

I'm thinkin' every state/county/city government pension fund is way, way underwater. Have to ask the wife, she's the cpa.

[HSKR]

I'm thinkin' every state/county/city government pension fund is way, way underwater. Have to ask the wife, she's the cpa.

 

 

I can confirm Detroit's is for you.

[BigRedBuster]

All the way around, pensions are one of the stupidest form of retirement systems ever invented.

[Judoka]

http://www.ketv.com/...2z/-/index.html

 

Getting rid of the old fire chief so you can actually try to meet your budget. I do kind of feel sorry for the old chief. Not sure how he is going to make it living off of a measly $130K a year pension.

 

There isn't a bigger screw job to taxpayers at the local level then what cities throw away at these type of pensions. The irony is how all the flaming liberals scream when anyone in the private sector makes that kind of money yet when government employees do, it's fine. There isn't a government job in the entire state of Nebraska that deserves that kind of pension, not even close.

 

 

 

I'd guess getting rid of him had more to do with this than anything.

 

http://www.wowt.com/...es/9204832.html

 

"the latest analysis of the police and fire pension plan shows that it is under-funded by more than $320 million. That's $40 million worse than projected last year."

 

Highway robbery.

Agree with the pension analysis, but this will probably galvanize most of the OFD against her and possibly the new fire chief if it is perceived that he/she is not acting in their best interests (i.e. pensions).

[carlfense]

Not sure how he is going to make it living off of a measly $130K a year pension.

 

There isn't a bigger screw job to taxpayers at the local level then what cities throw away at these type of pensions. The irony is how all the flaming liberals scream when anyone in the private sector makes that kind of money yet when government employees do, it's fine.

Eh?

[HSKR]

http://www.ketv.com/...2z/-/index.html

 

Getting rid of the old fire chief so you can actually try to meet your budget. I do kind of feel sorry for the old chief. Not sure how he is going to make it living off of a measly $130K a year pension.

 

There isn't a bigger screw job to taxpayers at the local level then what cities throw away at these type of pensions. The irony is how all the flaming liberals scream when anyone in the private sector makes that kind of money yet when government employees do, it's fine. There isn't a government job in the entire state of Nebraska that deserves that kind of pension, not even close.

 

 

 

I'd guess getting rid of him had more to do with this than anything.

 

http://www.wowt.com/...es/9204832.html

 

"the latest analysis of the police and fire pension plan shows that it is under-funded by more than $320 million. That's $40 million worse than projected last year."

 

Highway robbery.

Agree with the pension analysis, but this will probably galvanize most of the OFD against her and possibly the new fire chief if it is perceived that he/she is not acting in their best interests (i.e. pensions).

 

That was already a done deal before she was even elected, in fact that was part of the reason she was elected. She isn't there for the best interest of the OFD and their bloated pensions, she is there so Omaha doesn't go down the same path Detroit has. If she can't be buddies with the firemen then so be it. She needs to do her job and so far it looks like she is.

[Judoka]

http://www.ketv.com/...2z/-/index.html

 

Getting rid of the old fire chief so you can actually try to meet your budget. I do kind of feel sorry for the old chief. Not sure how he is going to make it living off of a measly $130K a year pension.

 

There isn't a bigger screw job to taxpayers at the local level then what cities throw away at these type of pensions. The irony is how all the flaming liberals scream when anyone in the private sector makes that kind of money yet when government employees do, it's fine. There isn't a government job in the entire state of Nebraska that deserves that kind of pension, not even close.

 

 

 

I'd guess getting rid of him had more to do with this than anything.

 

http://www.wowt.com/...es/9204832.html

 

"the latest analysis of the police and fire pension plan shows that it is under-funded by more than $320 million. That's $40 million worse than projected last year."

 

Highway robbery.

Agree with the pension analysis, but this will probably galvanize most of the OFD against her and possibly the new fire chief if it is perceived that he/she is not acting in their best interests (i.e. pensions).

 

That was already a done deal before she was even elected, in fact that was part of the reason she was elected. She isn't there for the best interest of the OFD and their bloated pensions, she is there so Omaha doesn't go down the same path Detroit has. If she can't be buddies with the firemen then so be it. She needs to do her job and so far it looks like she is.

You seem to have a lot of pent up hostility.

[HSKR]

http://www.ketv.com/...2z/-/index.html

 

Getting rid of the old fire chief so you can actually try to meet your budget. I do kind of feel sorry for the old chief. Not sure how he is going to make it living off of a measly $130K a year pension.

 

There isn't a bigger screw job to taxpayers at the local level then what cities throw away at these type of pensions. The irony is how all the flaming liberals scream when anyone in the private sector makes that kind of money yet when government employees do, it's fine. There isn't a government job in the entire state of Nebraska that deserves that kind of pension, not even close.

 

 

 

I'd guess getting rid of him had more to do with this than anything.

 

http://www.wowt.com/...es/9204832.html

 

"the latest analysis of the police and fire pension plan shows that it is under-funded by more than $320 million. That's $40 million worse than projected last year."

 

Highway robbery.

Agree with the pension analysis, but this will probably galvanize most of the OFD against her and possibly the new fire chief if it is perceived that he/she is not acting in their best interests (i.e. pensions).

 

That was already a done deal before she was even elected, in fact that was part of the reason she was elected. She isn't there for the best interest of the OFD and their bloated pensions, she is there so Omaha doesn't go down the same path Detroit has. If she can't be buddies with the firemen then so be it. She needs to do her job and so far it looks like she is.

You seem to have a lot of pent up hostility.

 

Why would you say that?

[strigori]

You are missing a huge point. This was a personal vendetta between the fire chief and Stothert.

 

That included $150,000 to pay University of Nebraska Medical Center consultants who supervise the department's emergency medical service. They replaced Stothert's husband, Dr. Joe Stothert, after he was dismissed by McDonnell and Mayor Jim Suttle.

 

http://www.omaha.com/article/20130826/NEWS/130829133/1687#omaha-fire-chief-leaves-with-10-900-a-month-pension-and-pledge-of-no-layoffs

 

Petty and dirty. I do not trust Stothert, it would not surprise me to see her brought up on corruption charges before her term is done.

[HSKR]

You are missing a huge point. This was a personal vendetta between the fire chief and Stothert.

 

That included $150,000 to pay University of Nebraska Medical Center consultants who supervise the department's emergency medical service. They replaced Stothert's husband, Dr. Joe Stothert, after he was dismissed by McDonnell and Mayor Jim Suttle.

 

http://www.omaha.com...e-of-no-layoffs

 

Petty and dirty. I do not trust Stothert, it would not surprise me to see her brought up on corruption charges before her term is done.

 

Glad you brought this up! It probably explains to Judaka why I mentioned the OFD members had already gone against her. Petty and dirty? Yea, I can go with that as long as you agree it came from both sides equally. Stothert did nothing but shove it right back in the fire unions face with the backing that her husband did it for free and now they want $150,000 more of taxpayer money to cover that cost. If the main point you get out of this is you don't trust Stothert and not the fact that the city of Omaha is drowning in Union debt we probably don't have much more to debate with each other.

 

If $150,000 is a huge point then what is $320 million to you?

 

BTW, you want to make a wager on those corruption charges?

[strigori]

So she threatens other people's jobs and legal action to remove a person who she does not like, and that of course makes her the hero.....

 

Stothert negotiated the current fire contract that she is now fighting....

 

She is going to replace him with a good little yes man. And its likely to be bad for people, anyone ever complain, "Damn, the fire department got here too fast" The city is growing, so of course cutting the fire department makes sense right? Sometimes you need to pay to have services.

[carlfense]

Stothert negotiated the current fire contract that she is now fighting....

QFT.

[HSKR]

So she threatens other people's jobs and legal action to remove a person who she does not like, and that of course makes her the hero.....

 

Stothert negotiated the current fire contract that she is now fighting....

 

She is going to replace him with a good little yes man. And its likely to be bad for people, anyone ever complain, "Damn, the fire department got here too fast" The city is growing, so of course cutting the fire department makes sense right? Sometimes you need to pay to have services.

 

False. She is not fighting it. Why would she? It runs out at the end of the year. What she is doing is getting rid of the union hacks and appointing responsible leadership that will negotiate the next contracts in the best interest of the taxpayers of the city of Omaha, not the bloated union pensions.

 

Are you sure this isn't all Bushes fault? That seems to be the last missing piece of your response.

[HuskerLuke]

Pensions in general are just a disastrous way to do retirement. It involves a lot of easy promises today and a whole lot of praying tomorrow that your actuaries didn't screw up on who's going to die when and that the markets and economy in general behaves. There's rarely a happy ending to this story. Public employees should get the same thing the rest of us get: a 401k with matching contributions from the employer. Unfunded pension liabilities (including the biggest one: Social Security) are going to bring this nation to financial ruin unless we get it under control.