JTrain Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Not entirely on topic, but look at Osborne's AP poll finishes: 7 8 9 9 12 8 9 7 11 3 2 4 11 5 6 10 11 24 15 14 3 1 1 6 2 I can't imagine anything like this happening again. Unbelievable. It also makes the Bo vs. TO early years argument look absurd. Yes, people were disappointed with our failure to beat Oklahoma and win the national title, but 7 top ten finishes in your first 8 seasons? Wow. Compare to Bo: NR 14 20 24 25 25 maybe? But the topic at hand: Nebraska '93-'97 could beat any 5-year run by Saban, but for a 6 or 7 or 8 year run, if Saban continues to be great in future years? Then Bama would probably take the lead, because you'd have to throw in '92 or '98 Nebraska. So it depends how long of a span you want to discuss. Quote Link to comment
74Hunter Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Well, IMO, I think its clear that our 5 year run is better. We at least won our division, if not the entire conference each year. We were a 1/2 team of food poisoning and/or a drunken All-American linebacker for playing in a 5th straight MNC game, depending on who you talk to. It's not our fault that the B1G hid out in the Rose Bowl and didn't allow us a chance to curb stomp Meatchicken the same way we curb stomped an even better (than UM) Tennessee team in 97. Bama hasn't even won it's own division yet has backed into the MNC game. My question is, which run was harder to do? College football has changed so much in the past 20 years with the 85 man scholarship limit (well, with the exception of the $EC) and parity as opposed to our run that ended 15 years ago. So, is it harder to be really, really good and beat a bunch of really, really good teams like Bama has done? Or was it more difficult to accomplish what we did which, if you remember correctly, was having to be great, and having to beat a few really, really good teams (K State, Kansas, Texas A&M, etc.) and having to beat a couple of GREAT teams (Colorado, Miami, FSU, Florida, Tennessee) every year to win the MNC. Also don't forget, that back during the run of the 90's, you almost HAD to be undefeated to win the MNC. How many teams since 2001 have won the MNC and had a loss (or two, like LSU)? Back in those days, there was about 12-15 teams that had a realistic shot at the MNC. We've seen it at least twice in the past few years a team like Auburn come from completely off the grid to play for the MNC. I think that any way you slice it, Bama has had a great run, but ours was easily more dominant, and quite a bit better. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 In the same context that we call the Michigan St and Iowa games this year blowouts, eh? You know, games that were still very much in question well into the 4th quarters? I understand. Yep. That's the one. Quote Link to comment
JTrain Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Looking back at 10-year spans, it would be tough to match Oklahoma and Alabama 1971-1980. Oklahoma 105-11-2 (89.8%) Alabama 107-13-0 (89.2%) http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/calc-wp.pl?start=1971&end=1980&rpct=60&min=50&by=Win+Pct Quote Link to comment
JTrain Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Well, in 1990 we got blown out by the only ranked team we played, got run off the field by an unranked Oklahoma team the got throttled in the bowl game.. In 1991, we go blown out in week 3, eeked out a win over the #24 team in the country, got a close win and a tie against the other two ranked teams we played, even though we were ranked higher and got blown out in our bowl game. In 1992, we got embarrassed on national TV in week 3, the got a couple really good wins before the coaches didn't have us ready to play a lowly Iowa St. team and we lost. Got blown out in the bowl game. That's what you were talking about, right? Haha, wow. You make those years seem pretty rough. Here's an overview: 1990 Finished 9-3 Ranked 17th in Coaches, 24th in AP and 12th in J. Howell's computer rankings (only one available online that far back) Lost in the bowl game to Georgia Tech, who finished 11-0-1 and shared the national championship 1991 Finished 9-2-1 Ranked 16th in Coaches, 15th in AP and 12th in J. Howell's computer rankings Lost in the bowl game to Miami, who finished 12-0 and shared the national championship Oh, and the only other loss was to Washington, who finished 12-0 and shared the national championship 1992 Finished 9-3 Ranked 14th in Coaches, 14th in AP and 12th in J. Howell's computer rankings Lost in the bowl game to Florida State, who finished 11-1 and ranked #2 in both polls So, three of our eight losses in that span were to undefeated national champions, and one was to an 11-1 team that finished #2. That's what you were talking about, right? Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 OK, for anyone who hasn't picked up on this yet, it was a joke. Just going with the same type of explanations that people like to use now. Just look at the final scores and the cupcakes on the schedule and say we underachieved. Quote Link to comment
Count 'Bility Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 OK, for anyone who hasn't picked up on this yet, it was a joke. Just going with the same type of explanations that people like to use now. Just look at the final scores and the cupcakes on the schedule and say we underachieved. i knew what you were getting at after you hinted me. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 OK, for anyone who hasn't picked up on this yet, it was a joke. Just going with the same type of explanations that people like to use now. Just look at the final scores and the cupcakes on the schedule and say we underachieved. i knew what you were getting at after you hinted me. Quote Link to comment
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