clyde40 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Since so many people want our offense to be like Auburn, Alabama, Stanford, or Michigan State, let's see if we can match each team to it's stats. Each team is labeled A, B, C, D, or E with passing-rushing attempts and passing-rushing yards for each game.(schedules are jumbled up and conference championship games not accounted for) Team A: 1. 37-27 127-210 2. 27-29 246-143 3. 17-49 151-240 4. 18-51 158-261 5. 18-32 88-185 6. 28-40 322-238 7.35-35 417-186 8. 13-66 103-274 9. 20-41 100-179 10. 18-36 143-162 11. 22-34 197-205 12. 27-41 207-197 13. 25-50 227-192 Team B: 1. 7-53 35-444 2. 34-36 339-120 3. 42-40 236-379 4. 17-48 93-282 5. 9-46 133-233 6. 27-57 243-323 7. 22-43 201-511 8. 32-53 224-213 9. 18-59 206-422 10. 27-53 217-232 11. 20-46 99-295 12. 19-50 167-301 13. 16-52 97-296 Team C: 1. 24-28 110-96 2. 29-37 334-234 3. 24-37 180-352 4. 28-37 275-204 5. 32-33 187-196 6. 30-35 387-129 7. 34-30 296-181 8. 20-42 179-193 9. 27-21 272-66 10. 29-35 277-218 11. 20-32 184-251 12. 32-40 180-254 13. 36-44 369-299 Team D: 1. 23-43 145-128 2. 28-46 194-285 3. 26-51 310-335 4. 31-56 184-251 5. 36-41 192-168 6. 22-63 155-375 7. 35-42 203-128 8. 42-50 277-195 9. 32-32 210-182 10. 37-37 199-89 11. 16-43 163-144 12. 30-30 139-189 13. 20-50 186-335 Team E: 1. 37-42 116-181 2. 33-39 252-142 3. 31-47 235-238 4. 16-55 208-269 5. 20-31 143-181 6. 32-49 270-277 7. 32-48 193-168 8. 36-35 254-119 9. 26-41 112-182 10. 23-40 293-171 11. 24-38 94-171 12. 36-35 332-65 13. 44-37 277-135 1 Quote Link to comment
Abdullah the Butcher Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 Since so many people want our offense to be like Auburn, Alabama, Stanford, or Michigan State, let's see if we can match each team to it's stats. Each team is labeled A, B, C, D, or E with passing-rushing attempts and passing-rushing yards for each game.(schedules are jumbled up and conference championship games not accounted for) You have 4 teams and 5 letters.....do you want us to put Nebraska on there also? I'm mostly guessing here. Team A - Alabama Team B - Auburn Team C - Stanford Team D - Nebraska Team E - Michigan State Quote Link to comment
clyde40 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Yes Nebraska is also included. Quote Link to comment
Hayseed Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 The best fancy passing team in the country, Oregon, comes up short against teams with quality DB's who can run stride for stride with their receivers. Eventually they make a big mistake or tire and are unable to execute at 100%. That's my big complaint about modeling our offense after this style. A great blocking offense that can wear down a defense and also execute the perfect pass play when the timing is right will always be my choice. I'm okay with the QB who can run, but the injury stats of the best running QB's ever makes me want to limit the running to mostly open field scrambles. I don't want my QB limping around out there and unable to perform because of nagging injuries. Quote Link to comment
clyde40 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Since so many people want our offense to be like Auburn, Alabama, Stanford, or Michigan State, let's see if we can match each team to it's stats. Each team is labeled A, B, C, D, or E with passing-rushing attempts and passing-rushing yards for each game.(schedules are jumbled up and conference championship games not accounted for) You have 4 teams and 5 letters.....do you want us to put Nebraska on there also? I'm mostly guessing here. Team A - Alabama Team B - Auburn Team C - Stanford Team D - Nebraska Team E - Michigan State You did get three correct. I'll give away that Auburn is team B. Quote Link to comment
Abdullah the Butcher Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 The best fancy passing team in the country, Oregon, comes up short against teams with quality DB's who can run stride for stride with their receivers. Eventually they make a big mistake or tire and are unable to execute at 100%. That's my big complaint about modeling our offense after this style. A great blocking offense that can wear down a defense and also execute the perfect pass play when the timing is right will always be my choice. I'm okay with the QB who can run, but the injury stats of the best running QB's ever makes me want to limit the running to mostly open field scrambles. I don't want my QB limping around out there and unable to perform because of nagging injuries. Oregon was only 21st in passing but I agree with your premise. Quote Link to comment
ZRod Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 That's a good metric not including the CCGs Clyde. *Possible Spoilers* Leaving off the extra games NU is in the middle of all the teams mentioned so far. Would you fellas believe we rushed the ball as many times as Stanford and they had one extra game, or that we had more rushing attempts than Alabama, Michigan State, and Wisconsin? Quote Link to comment
Abdullah the Butcher Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 That's a good metric not including the CCGs Clyde. *Possible Spoilers* Leaving off the extra games NU is in the middle of all the teams mentioned so far. Would you fellas believe we rushed the ball as many times as Stanford and they had one extra game, or that we had more rushing attempts than Alabama, Michigan State, and Wisconsin? Already knew that, like I said earlier it's more about the how and not the end result. Quote Link to comment
clyde40 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 That's a good metric not including the CCGs Clyde. *Possible Spoilers* Leaving off the extra games NU is in the middle of all the teams mentioned so far. Would you fellas believe we rushed the ball as many times as Stanford and they had one extra game, or that we had more rushing attempts than Alabama, Michigan State, and Wisconsin? Already knew that, like I said earlier it's more about the how and not the end result. So you would accept less production, and more passing if it meant they were in an I or Ace set instead of shotgun, or am I missing something? Quote Link to comment
Abdullah the Butcher Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 That's a good metric not including the CCGs Clyde. *Possible Spoilers* Leaving off the extra games NU is in the middle of all the teams mentioned so far. Would you fellas believe we rushed the ball as many times as Stanford and they had one extra game, or that we had more rushing attempts than Alabama, Michigan State, and Wisconsin? Already knew that, like I said earlier it's more about the how and not the end result. So you would accept less production, and more passing if it meant they were in an I or Ace set instead of shotgun, or am I missing something?I would enjoy those very much, I'd lean more towards the Auburn/Wisconsin side of the run/pass scale. I prefer physical running to finesse spread, wear teams down and hit them with a play action setup. Quote Link to comment
Hayseed Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 The best fancy passing team in the country, Oregon, comes up short against teams with quality DB's who can run stride for stride with their receivers. Eventually they make a big mistake or tire and are unable to execute at 100%. That's my big complaint about modeling our offense after this style. A great blocking offense that can wear down a defense and also execute the perfect pass play when the timing is right will always be my choice. I'm okay with the QB who can run, but the injury stats of the best running QB's ever makes me want to limit the running to mostly open field scrambles. I don't want my QB limping around out there and unable to perform because of nagging injuries. Oregon was only 21st in passing but I agree with your premise. I said fancy passing.....wide open spreads and trickery that amounts to a great record against teams that can't match up in stamina and depth but falls short against top competition. Many of the yards come from running through the huge gaps caused by this oddball offense. To me the win/loss record and domination mean more than the stats. I agree that we're on the same page. Even though we're forced to play a more physical running style, I often get the feeling that Coach Beck wishes we were Oregon. However, I don't think this was implied by him in the interview; he was just stating the facts about the effects of the rule changes on the modern game. I suspect many coaches feel they have to engage in a shootout to keep up with these grassketball offenses rather than relying on ball control and that may be true for teams with lousy defenses. I believe the Husker's success will live or die with the performance of the defense and look forward to a really good one combined with a mistake free, grinding ball-control offense. Quote Link to comment
Abdullah the Butcher Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 Another note, Nebraska was 77th in time of possession last year, we are making the defense work on short rest and not producing long, grinding drives. In comparison the other teams we are talking about are all in the top 30 except for Auburn who's defense was atrocious most of the year. Quote Link to comment
Saunders Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 <snip> trickery that amounts to a great record against teams that can't match up in stamina and depth but falls short against top competition. Many of the yards come from running through the huge gaps caused by this oddball offense. To me the win/loss record and domination mean more than the stats.</snip> This was said about the offense we used to run, until we won 3 out of 4 championships. Quote Link to comment
Saunders Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Another note, Nebraska was 77th in time of possession last year, we are making the defense work on short rest and not producing long, grinding drives. In comparison the other teams we are talking about are all in the top 30 except for Auburn who's defense was atrocious most of the year. Agree 100%. I had stated before that the coaches need to decide if they want a top 10 defense, or fast paced offense. Because it seems that they can't co-exist. Quote Link to comment
Hayseed Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 <snip> trickery that amounts to a great record against teams that can't match up in stamina and depth but falls short against top competition. Many of the yards come from running through the huge gaps caused by this oddball offense. To me the win/loss record and domination mean more than the stats.</snip> This was said about the offense we used to run, until we won 3 out of 4 championships. Well yes, with a few minor differences. We had about 8 strings of quality players on the sidelines back then. The option wasn't really trickery like the crazy offense that Oregon runs where it's hard to tell how to even line up against them.....back in the 70's-90's they knew what was coming most of the time and just didn't have the Jimmy's and Joe's to stop it. The more I think about these comparisons to the past and the rule changes that have occurred, I think we need to cut our present coaches some slack......I think it's harder to stack up players and dominate now. Let's also give Charlie McBride way more credit for our past success....like I said, I think we'll live or die by the defense.....and I liked the way they came together last year after a slow start. Quote Link to comment
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