hoyamannn Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Nice article, pretty much shows what everyone knew about the Raiders and why it's so hard to coach there. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/stor...mark&id=2330162 Quote Link to comment
Big Red Cop Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 While I hardly think that Callahan needed this to be written for him to truly know what was going on in Raiderland, this helps to prove that maybe it wasn't so much Callahan that was the downfall for the Raiders the year after the Superbowl!! If you are put into a lose-lose situation, then there is not much you can do about it, expect become the scapegoat! Quote Link to comment
Touchdown Tommie Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 All I have to say is that working for Al Davis would be the worst thing to do. That organization is a mess. Quote Link to comment
pigsonthewing Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 yeah here comes the "team that gruden built" crap. no bill callahan had nothing to do with building that team either.. there is more than just one coach on a staff... stupid ESPiN. Quote Link to comment
hoyamannn Posted February 15, 2006 Author Share Posted February 15, 2006 yeah here comes the "team that gruden built" crap. no bill callahan had nothing to do with building that team either.. there is more than just one coach on a staff... stupid ESPiN. You gotta give credit where credit is due. Gruden as the HC had a lot of pull in the players that he brought in, but it was Callahan that took those players to the title game. And who knows what would have happened the following year if numerous injuries wouldn't have decimated that team. Not many teams lose the starting QB and league MVP and continue to have success. Look at the Eagles this year for proof of that. Not necessarily saying Cally didn't build the team, but Gruden did quite a job assembling those players that BC took to the Super Bowl. If Al Davis had given more control to Callahan, what would have happened the following years? Appears BC has a little better eye for talent than Al does. Quote Link to comment
pigsonthewing Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 yeah here comes the "team that gruden built" crap. no bill callahan had nothing to do with building that team either.. there is more than just one coach on a staff... stupid ESPiN. You gotta give credit where credit is due. Gruden as the HC had a lot of pull in the players that he brought in, but it was Callahan that took those players to the title game. And who knows what would have happened the following year if numerous injuries wouldn't have decimated that team. Not many teams lose the starting QB and league MVP and continue to have success. Look at the Eagles this year for proof of that. Not necessarily saying Cally didn't build the team, but Gruden did quite a job assembling those players that BC took to the Super Bowl. If Al Davis had given more control to Callahan, what would have happened the following years? Appears BC has a little better eye for talent than Al does. gruden has done a dynamite job at tampa these past couple years, who built the team gruden took to the super bowl? Quote Link to comment
chad1971 Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Nice article, pretty much shows what everyone knew about the Raiders and why it's so hard to coach there. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/stor...mark&id=2330162 My friend Daryl Hobbs played for the raiders in the early - mid 90's - I knew him from coming to visit relatives in CA every summer - He said al davis is a f'ing prick - after he signed a 5 year contract and he started building a house the team was assured they wouldn't move back to Oakland, Then they did and then when he said something about it, it got back to al davis and he traded him to the Saints - Needless to say al davis isn't on Daryl's christmas card list. Quote Link to comment
DJR313 Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 yeah here comes the "team that gruden built" crap. no bill callahan had nothing to do with building that team either.. there is more than just one coach on a staff... stupid ESPiN. Funny, I didn't know Formerfan had a column on espn.com. gruden has done a dynamite job at tampa these past couple years, who built the team gruden took to the super bowl? Round and Round this one goes. I think it is wrong to say Callahan took Gruden's team to the Super Bowl(since Callahan was his right hand man from the beginning) just as it is wrong to say that Gruden had nothing to do with Tampa Bay finally getting over the hump that Dungy couldn't. Quote Link to comment
Eric the Red Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 On a side note.. Gruden to Highlight Nebraska Spring Coaches Clinic The Nebraska Spring Coaches Clinic will be highlighted by an appearance from Tampa Bay Buccaneers Head Coach Jon Gruden, one of three coaches with NFL head coaching experience who will be featured at the clinic, set for April 7 and 8 in Lincoln. Gruden’s appearance as the featured speaker will mark the second consecutive year a Super Bowl Champion coach will serve as the featured speaker at the Spring Coaches Clinic. In 2005, Dick Vermeil, then the head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs came to Lincoln as the featured speaker at the event. In addition to Gruden, Nebraska Head Coach Bill Callahan and his entire staff will provide instruction at the clinic, while former Kansas City Chiefs Head Coach Frank Gansz will also be a featured speaker on the second day of the clinic. In addition, the Nebraska Spring Coaches clinic will feature former Nebraska defensive coordinator Charlie McBride as this year’s “Nebraska Legends” speaker. High school head coaches Jerry Ralph (St. Augustine High School, San Diego) and Mark King (Lincoln Southwest) are also on the clinic agenda as speakers. Gruden recently completed his fourth season as the head coach of the Buccaneers and his eighth season as an NFL head coach. Gruden has compiled a 38-30 record with Tampa Bay, including an 11-5 record and NFC South Division title in 2005. In his first year with the Bucs in 2002, Gruden guided Tampa Bay to a 12-4 regular-season mark on its way to a Super Bowl XXXVII victory over Callahan’s Oakland Raider team. One of only eight active coaches with a Super Bowl title to his credit, the 42-year-old Gruden is one of just three NFL coaches since 1966 to win 40 games before their 40th birthday. He is also just the third head coach in NFL history to lead a different franchise to playoff appearances in consecutive seasons, joining Mike Holmgren and Tony Dungy. Gruden has a long relationship with Callahan, who succeeded Gruden as the Raiders’ head coach in 2002. The two worked together for three seasons (1995-97) on the Philadelphia Eagles coaching staff, before Gruden was named head coach of the Raiders before the 1998 season. Callahan served as the Raiders’ offensive coordinator for each of Gruden’s four seasons with the franchise. During the four seasons they spent together in Oakland, the Raiders compiled a 40-28 record, including AFC West titles in 2000 and 2001. “It is a great honor to have Jon Gruden included in the tradition of the Nebraska Coaches Clinic,” Callahan said. “Jon is truly one of the most knowledgeable and dynamic head coaches in the National Football League. I know that he will provide the coaches with great insight and information about modern football.” Gansz was the head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs in 1987 and 1988, and was also a long-time NFL assistant coach. In addition to his time as head coach, Gansz is also widely recognized as one of the best and most influential special teams coaches in NFL history. Gansz capped his career as the special teams coach of the St. Louis Rams, serving on Vermeil’s staff and helping the Rams to a Super Bowl title in 1999. McBride served as an assistant coach at Nebraska for 23 seasons from 1977 to 1999, including the final 18 seasons as the Huskers’ defensive coordinator. McBride’s Blackshirt defenses ranked in the top 10 nationally in total defense 11 times, including leading the nation in 1984 and ranking fourth in his final season in 1999. This marks the second year the Nebraska Spring Coaches Clinic has featured a “Legends Speaker” as former offensive line coach Milt Tenopir spoke at last year’s event. After a welcome from Coach Callahan on Friday morning, two outstanding high school coaches will be next up on the clinic agenda. King has built an outstanding program at Lincoln Southwest High School, guiding the Silver Hawks to the Class A state title game in 2005, in just the school’s fourth year. King previously had successful coaching stints at Lincoln Northeast and Ord before taking over at Southwest. Ralph is the head coach at San Diego’s St. Augustine High School, which captured the CIF Division III title in 2005. Ralph is in his sixth season as the Saints’ head coach and among the top players his program has produced are Nebraska place-kicker Jordan Congdon and 2006 Husker signee Menelik Holt. In addition to top-notch instruction from standout coaches from several levels, coaches in attendance at the clinic will have the opportunity to attend closed Nebraska practices on both Friday and Saturday afternoons. Gruden will address the clinic attendees on Friday evening, before a Nebraska Coaches’ Chalk Talk caps the first day of the clinic. Saturday’s activities will begin with a FCA Breakfast in West Stadium, followed by position drills and Gansz’s presentation. The event will be capped by Nebraska’s Saturday afternoon practice. All sessions of this year’s clinic will be held in Nebraska’s new Championship Indoor Center or Memorial Stadium. Cost of attending the clinic is $35 before April 3 and $45 after April 3. For more information, please contact the Nebraska football office at (402) 472-3116 or visit Huskers.com and CoachCallahan.com. A full schedule of events is available on both web sites and registration for the Nebraska Spring Coaches Clinic is available on-line. 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DJR313 Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Hey Pillen, Eric already posted that. Quote Link to comment
Roy CO HSKR Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 In the ESPN piece the saga didn't mention Shanahan, who was HC for Al Davis for part of a year. Same problem as all the others. After AL fired him, he came to Denver and won 2 Super Bowls. During one game in Oakland, during the Elway era and during pre-game warmups, Shanahan told Elway to throw and take Als head off. JE gave him a double take, followed through, narrowly missed, but it was noted! The many people who hate Davis must make quite a crowd! Quote Link to comment
Fat Tire Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 yeah here comes the "team that gruden built" crap. no bill callahan had nothing to do with building that team either.. there is more than just one coach on a staff... stupid ESPiN. You gotta give credit where credit is due. Gruden as the HC had a lot of pull in the players that he brought in, but it was Callahan that took those players to the title game. And who knows what would have happened the following year if numerous injuries wouldn't have decimated that team. Not many teams lose the starting QB and league MVP and continue to have success. Look at the Eagles this year for proof of that. Not necessarily saying Cally didn't build the team, but Gruden did quite a job assembling those players that BC took to the Super Bowl. If Al Davis had given more control to Callahan, what would have happened the following years? Appears BC has a little better eye for talent than Al does. gruden has done a dynamite job at tampa these past couple years, who built the team gruden took to the super bowl? ...Funny how all we hear is how Callahan brought Gruden's team to the the Super Bowl, but we never hear how Gruden brought Dungy's team there also that same year.... Quote Link to comment
Roy CO HSKR Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 If someone doesn't want to credit a coach they invariably want some other excuse for the success. For example, if it wasn't for Elway and Davis, Denver wouldn't have won those 2 Super Bowls. Yea, Duh! Gee wonder why Reeves emver caould do it? If Callahan wins the North this season, some will say that it is for some other reason, such as, the teams in the North are all down, because of new coaches, etc. With some people he will never be good enough or acceptable! How many times did Solich win the North- 0? Quote Link to comment
skersfan Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Those that are anti Callahan are stuck in the past. Move forward and embrace what we have going on. I like the guy and have since day one. I like his fire and drive. Something we have not seen since the Bob Father retired. Firey Irishman, how can you not like him? Quote Link to comment
hack Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Hey Pillen, Eric already posted that. news so nice, it *must* be posted twice..! Quote Link to comment
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