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Coach O is a pretty damn good D-line coach but an even greater recruiter. O landed those top Miami D players in the early 1990's. He was the recruiting coordinator at USC and a huge force in landing... Kenechi Udeze (Defensive End, 2004 First Round Pick) Jacob Rogers (Offensive Tackle, 2004 Second Round Pick) Keary Colbert (Wide Receiver, 2004 Second Round Pick) Mike Williams (Wide Receiver, 2005 First Round Pick) Mike Patterson (Defensive Tackle, 2005 First Round Pick) Shaun Cody (Defensive End, 2005 Second Round Pick) Lofa Tatupu (Linebacker, 2005 Second Round Pick) Reggie Bush (Running Back, 2006 First Round Pick) Matt Leinart (Quarterback, 2006 First Round Pick) Winston Justice (Offensive Tackle, 2006 Second Round Pick) Deuce Lutui (Offensive Guard, 2006 Second Round Pick) LenDale White (Running Back, 2006 Second Round Pick) Frostee Rucker (Defensive End, 2006 Third Round Pick) Dominique Byrd (Tight End, 2006 Third Round Pick) Dwayne Jarrett (Wide Receiver, 2007 Second Round Pick) Steve Smith (Wide Receiver, 2007 Second Round Pick) Ryan Kalil (Center, 2007 Second Round Pick) Sedrick Ellis (Defensive Tackle, 2008 First Round Pick) Keith Rivers (Linebacker, 2008 First Round Pick) Sam Baker (Offensive Tackle, 2008 First Round Pick) Lawrence Jackson (Defensive End, 2008 First Round Pick) Recruiting was still strong at USC after Coach O left in 2004 because of the newly rebuilt brand name but it was never the same. Whatever little baggage O has - he is worth it. He can transform a down programs recruiting overnight...like he did with USC in 2001 when the program was in a swan song. He would bring in a dominant D-line full of NFL in waiting studs.

Riley needs to get some young blood with new ideas...he was the Dinasour of the Pac-12 as every team just passed him by and he kept losing. From an Oregon reporter: There was a column I saw that you wrote in October, and this was after Oregon State had lost their eighth Pac-12 conference game out of the last nine, and you said that you thought that “the time has come for Riley to either take a hard look at his philosophy and make changes, or step away,” and I think this was in relation to running that pro-style offense. GRESS: I think Mike’s a good coach, and I think he can run a program well, and do a lot of stuff. But in this day and age, and in this conference specifically with the way things are, he needed to evolve a little bit, do something that’s different in order for them to be competitive against the teams in this conference. Now what he likes to do might fit in the Big-10, but in this conference I thought that it was time for him to try and do something, just to either enthuse the fan base, maybe get them to have some success against some of those other teams, or he needs to walk away. If he didn’t want to do that, and felt like his time here had run his course, to walk away because of his contract and what that was going to cost Oregon State to maybe get out of if they maybe felt like they needed to make a move. TOBIAS: If you had to look at things that fans disliked about his coaching, was that one of them, this stubbornness to kind of stick with a certain style of offense. GRESS: I think you used the right word, stubbornness. He stuck with his guns and he wanted to go that route, and I think that’s what upset a lot of fans, because there wasn’t that willingness to try stuff, although it’s interesting, a few years back, when the “wildcat” (offense) was kind of getting there, they did have that. They had Jacquizz Rodgers doing a little bit of that. They started the “fly sweep,” which has been a staple of their offense, that was back in ’06 and ’07, somewhere back in there. So he has done some things, but I just think that the Pac-12 has gotten so much better in the last three years, especially. You see a lot of new coaches coming in and bringing new styles and things like that, and they felt like he was kind of the dinosaur of the coaches here, and they were back in the stone age of what they were trying to do, both offensively and defensively.

He is saying what most people are saying - From CNNSI -

Trojans everywhere are still counting their lucky stars. Riley was offered the USC job (first choice from Mike Garrett AD) but turned it down. Then Pete Carroll got the job and the rest is history.

The Riley love has always been media driven and sort of crazy. He won 5 games at OSU and USC wanted him in 2000 (he turned it down and USC got Pete Carroll and the rest is history) - then Dennis Erickson shows up at OSU and wins the Fiesta Bowl and was frankly the best team in the nation that year (Notre Dame didn't cross the 50 yard line). The guy isn't Lane Kiffin...but he has always gotten that Lane Kiffin love...so much praise with so little results. Dennis Erickson got OSU to 10-2...and a near shot at the national at crappy OSU...it can be done. I don't think Riley has the DNA for the next level (the crutch of saying, it's Nebraska - that doesn't mean shite anymore - Riley is not a great recruiter - (I lived in Oregon for 10 years) - I think he's a good coach...and I think he makes his crap talent pretty good....but his program always just lived to "upset teams" - never like Dennis Erickson where he wanted to dominate. Riley is a softy. A family man. An old man who has admitted he is comfortable in life and doesn't really strive anymore. I think Nebraska just hired grandpa who rode a bicycle to work. He's a guy (because of "turning Oregon State around from 2-10 to 4-5) that was his claim to fame... And yet Dennis Erickson in two years took Oregon State to the brink of the national title. You just hired grandpa caretakeer. You can win at Oregon State...big time...and Dennis Erickson proved it right after Riley. You will have a very nice coach who is fan friendly and sponser friendly...but who who has spent his entire coaching life thinking that 5-7 wins is an awesome season. He's not cutthroat.... He's a softie....Nebraska is fricked.

Riley was the lowest paid coach in the Pac-12 this year. He always said he'd stay at Oregon State (because 6-6 gets you a contract extension) No doubt he's getting a hefty raise to leave the comfort of that OSU job security.

....for those not familiar with him or Oregon State.

And Riley upset #1 USC twice.

Mike Riley wasn't coaching NEBRASKA! He was coaching an historic dumpster fire of a program in Oregon State. In Riley's second season at Oregon State in 1998 - the Beavers went 5-6....that was their best record since 1971! From 1971 - 2000, Oregon State had ONE winnning season.

LOL Michigan has 1 title in the last 60 years. Ohio State has 1 title in the last 45 years. Michigan State hasn't won a title since 1966. Penn State has 2 titles, none since 1986. All-in-all, 2 total titles since Penn State joined the B1G. Nebraska has more than that by themselves. What modern football powers... Look, the East is stronger than the West. But it's not some juggernaut. There's more to CFB than winning MNC...look at what teams have gone to the BCS bowls the last 20 years. Michigan, tOSU, Penn St. and Wisky. If the divisions are about winning your conference, Nebraska has the easiest road imaginable considering...Michigan/OSU still dominate and PSU/State will be players.

If Northwestern can go to Rose Bowls...and Kansas St. can win thr Big 12 and Rutgers can become good in football and Oregon State can beat ND in the Fiesta and Oregon can become a power...Penn State will vertainly be back. All 5 historically god-awful programs. Know your history and then we'll talk CFB...okay?

You're short-changing Penn State drastically. People love saying...it's over or that program is done - hell they said it about Nebraska and Notre Dame. My sister went to Penn State...never underestimate their size and influence 1 out of every 5 college grads in the US went to Penn State...I went to games there in the 80's - the place is football - will always be football - State College becomes the 3rd largest city in the State on Saturday. This will not be an alumni-fanbase that acquiesces to forever mediocrity. And they have a good coach. It's actually quite easy to rebound these days in college with scholie limits and parity across the nation. All it takes is one or two monster classes and the ball starts rolling downhill. (And of course, the opposite can happen.) College football success or failure is fragile... Penn State will be a player the next 100 years in football in the B1G - they're too big to fail - trust me. To say PSU will never be a power again is pretty dramatic and completely baseless. So... East Division Penn State - 2 National Championships (7 perfect seasons) Ohio State - 7 National Championships Michigan - 11 National Championships Michigan State - 6 National Championships

What a joke of a division of teams. One is overloaded (EAST) and one is crap (WEST) and don't say football is cyclical. 90% of the teams in the new West Division historically haven't done anything...and Iowa has exactly TWO 9-win seasons under Ferentz despite all the love he gets. And who knows how far Wisky will drop now - that not they were ever truly consistently great. So, good news for Huskers - bad news for fans of football...because the West division should be easy pickens every year for any team that has their act together.

Steroids brah... Don't live in denial. Either everyone does it now or Nebraska is clean...so that advantage is gone. Also don't live in denial about the 80's and what happened in the 90's. 80's was impressive regular season records against crap competition and then constant bowl game losses to faster more athletic Florida teams in the Orange Bowl. 2-9 in the 80's against the top cometition. Then the 90's and Nebraska went rogue and got the fast "down south" guys. That's what changed everything...not big fat roided up Nebraska farm boys. If NU wants to get back to that one decade of dominance...they will have to find a way to get black SEC talent up to Lincoln...in a legal way. I doubt that ever happens again.

Hahaha. If you honestly believe what you said right there.... I must respectively say you might be kinda stupid... respectfully of course. Please let me know what Baton Rouge and Tuscaloosa have that Lincoln doesn't. Please tell me. Don't fool yourself. Saban wasn't Saban at Michigan State because he was at Michigan State in the midwest. LSU was always loaded with in-state talent that wants to stay home and play...making them a power was easy. Same with Bama...tradition, Southern talent...cupcake. Turning around Nebraska would be far more difficult for Saban. The college football landscape has changed. All the Southern kids - where the talent comes from - are staying home. It's the SEC - place to be. They aren't going North to NU, Notre Dame, Michigan. Look...the Top States that produce the MOST NFL TALENT PER CAPITA! 1. Louisiana 2. Mississippi 3. South Carolina 4. Alabama 5. Florida The Top States overall in producing NFL talent: 1. California 2. Florida 3. Texas The South is highly concentrated with NFL studs. The Coasts and Texas have the rest of the talent with their population size. Husker football is in Lincoln in the middle of nowhere with talent that can't compete with the South. It's simple - there's only so much elite talent to go around. For Nebraska to be powerful again, some Southern powers are going to have to go in the tank again. So what's changed from 1960 to present, Nebraska had little to no troubles beating Bamma, Texas, LSU, UCLA..........pretty much every hot bed of recruiting under Devaney, even Tom handled everyone except Miami and FSU so what is it you're trying to say again? Uh, the South wasn't the "South" with Devaney...well, actually, it was too much the "South" and black athletes were heading north. Regardless, there was a mass return to the South with black families in the last 80's/90's which have been the last 10 years and now producing the best talent on the D-lines (which is how CFB is dominated now) in the sport. You can complain about coaching but it will always be about the athletes. Just look at any game the last 10 years against teams with real NFL talent...Miami or USC...Nebraska just looked like a Jr. college team.

Hahaha. If you honestly believe what you said right there.... I must respectively say you might be kinda stupid... respectfully of course. Please let me know what Baton Rouge and Tuscaloosa have that Lincoln doesn't. Please tell me. Don't fool yourself. Saban wasn't Saban at Michigan State because he was at Michigan State in the midwest. LSU was always loaded with in-state talent that wants to stay home and play...making them a power was easy. Same with Bama...tradition, Southern talent...cupcake. Turning around Nebraska would be far more difficult for Saban. The college football landscape has changed. All the Southern kids - where the talent comes from - are staying home. It's the SEC - place to be. They aren't going North to NU, Notre Dame, Michigan. Look...the Top States that produce the MOST NFL TALENT PER CAPITA! 1. Louisiana 2. Mississippi 3. South Carolina 4. Alabama 5. Florida The Top States overall in producing NFL talent: 1. California 2. Florida 3. Texas The South is highly concentrated with NFL studs. The Coasts and Texas have the rest of the talent with their population size. Husker football is in Lincoln in the middle of nowhere with talent that can't compete with the South. It's simple - there's only so much elite talent to go around. For Nebraska to be powerful again, some Southern powers are going to have to go in the tank again.

That strip saved the game...tOSU's choke saved Bo...that is all. That was lucky as crap. He must have prayed to his God.

No - because NU isn't playing the sisters of the poor in the old Big 8 anymore. Even in the Big 12 Nebraska wasn't consistently a Top 5 program through the entire decade during the 90's glory years. This is the B1G - some good years, some bad years...but at least you know what you really have...instead of the old Big 8 - being ranked Top 5 from 1983 - 1994 but going something like 2-11 in bowl games - getting blown out once Nebraska played a really good team. Forget that. That's just record hunting.

Small and undersized on the D-line; really slow on the corners; way too many arm-tackles like high school...what happened to driving through the guy? How can Bo be a D coach and teach such poor technique?

Right? :rolls eyes: A friend of a friend maybe? Some cousin you knew? Sounds like sour grapes to me. Whenever you lose, someone has to come on here and in their anger turn the attention to the fanbase of the team that just vanquished them...how terrible they were...how (insert winning fanbase) "they threw beer at us and spit at us and it was terrible." So typical. Your post is false bud. And if it were true; your friend should stop going to CFB games. He obviously is more suited for a Teletubbies concert.