DevoHusker

A coup or a con? “Trump is a con man, and his insistence that he can overturn the election is his latest grift.” Interesting read: https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-coup-stage-of-donald-trumps-presidency?

Not always the case. Knowledge is good...some degrees?...not so much.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CHw87SWA8VA/?igshid=af2bhfiomi4s This is pretty cool

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/526614-whitmer-comes-under-new-gop-attacks Michigan health officials said Wednesday the state has the sixth-highest number of COVID-19 cases in the country, and fifth highest number of deaths. But even as cases and hospitalizations spike exponentially, state Republican leaders and members of the Trump administration say the new restrictions are a draconian overreach of Whitmer's authority.

Yes. She more successfully than I

Hope for swift recoveries and hopefully only minor inconvenience for you and yours. The bolded is the sh*tty part.

Same here, sad news. We were probably singing along with Paul and Joyce at the same time. I think I learned some new cusswords there..

I always get worried when I see "it's unanimous" that Huskers will win btw, I think we win but don't cover

There is no precedent for the Trump team’s widespread effort to delay or undermine certification, according to University of Kentucky law professor Joshua Douglas. “It would be the end of democracy as we know it,” Douglas said. “This is just not a thing that can happen.”

Thanks for the update. I was hoping with two viable options, each ready with 10-20 million doses to start, that it would be more readily available.

Hopefully, one of the two vaccines will be available around Christmas so you won't have to cancel.

Yessir. Today is a new day

Usually have extended family gathering at a rotating location hosted by uncle/aunt/cousin. 40-50 people. This year my folks will be dining alone, and my kids/grandkids will come to our place, as we interact with them daily. Hopefully the weather is good, and we can go visit with my folks socially distanced outdoors.

After a good night's sleep, I am ready to tackle P&R again You got it, as I parsed above. And, I think gerrymandering is a serious issue, but both parties partake in it, by way of redistricting, when they are the party of power. That is why nothing is done to "fix" it.

Nope, I said it is sometimes difficult to see the difference between the two terms, in practice.

I guess I know when to call it a night. Evidently my pov is not coming through. Good night.

Its not difficult for me. Done trying to make any sense of some replies to my stance. Thanks, and have a good night.

Not defending anything. Go back to pgs 13-14 where you conflate rigged elections with gerrymandering. I was trying to point out that the outrageous claims of "rigged" election results by Trump's team are very different than the longstanding practice of redistricting by the party in power, that often leads to claims of gerrymandering, and it is difficult to see the difference between the two. Both are trying to gain electoral advantage, but neither can be accurately called "rigged elections"

It won't let me take a screen shot of the results my computer gave me, as it says the file exceeds the size limit for the site. I used to use Screenspresso screen captures all the time, not sure what happened. I assure you I added nothing to the definitions. I agree with you on the bold, and thank-you for your explanation. The point I was making is exactly what you just stated, that they look similar until one party goes to far, and gets called out.

Literally copied and pasted from Google Search dictionary. I added no comments or words. Again, I understand the difference in the TERMS redistricting and gerrymandering. I have merely tried (apparently with little success) to show that the two differ only if the party doing the redistricting to their advantage gets caught and/or accused of gerrymandering. And even then, as @RedDenver article pointed out, long drawn out court proceedings still can't always come to a concrete finding.

I have no idea either, and I bet there are D examples and R examples because both sides engage in the process, but I know that they were redistricting when the gerrymandering occurred. Hence, my original stance that it is hard to see the difference. https://www.chron.com/politics/texas/article/Ranking-Texas-most-gerrymandered-districts-13024898.php Unlike the years of litigations and appeals might have one think, figuring out whether a district is gerrymandered is pretty simple. For example, it's worth looking back at a 2015 study that found "squiggly" districts, or districts with boundaries all over the place, are mathematically more likely to be gerrymandered.

Ope I thought I did but I must have gotten distracted by the back and forth. My point is that when the party of favor does it, it is considered redistricting. When the opposition party does it, it is considered gerrymandering. In the example provided by @RedDenver about North Carolina, both sides accused the other of gerrymandering in each distinct effort to redistrict. "When it works for the candidate I support it is legal, but when it works for the candidate I oppose it is illegal" In the general election, Bustos was one of 39 candidates considered to be the most viable challengers against Republican incumbents to benefit from "Red to Blue" program offered by the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.[32] Bustos was endorsed by the Quad-City Times for the general election.[33] In November, she defeated incumbent Republican Bobby Schilling 53%–47%.[34] She'd received a significant boost from redistricting, which replaced Quincy, Decatur and the district's portion of Springfield with the more Democratic portions of Peoria and Rockford. She is the first Democrat to represent a significant portion of Peoria since 1927, and only the second Democrat since the 1850s to represent a significant portion of Rockford.

Thanks Red