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Mr. Crawford wasn't defending Pelini, rather he was pointing out facts. One incident he left out, was Osborne's rebuke of Perlman via Osborne's public statement in support of Pelini, after the P-man rebuked Pelini for his actions during the A&M rigged game. I thought it was humorous at the time, an AD rebuking the Chancellor. Thus, another reason why a vindictive P-man did not let Osborne help choose his successor. The results speak for themselves P-man. And to think, he could not understand why the football program did not do better under his "leadership". Perlman, one of the worst chancellors, football-wise, that NU has had in the modern times.

Whether or not this is real, it does describe rather accurately, the mood back then towards Osborne's program by fans and boosters. History also tells us it was around this time that Osborne was contemplating the offer at Colorado. I remember Devaney was constantly defending Osborne to detract from all the wolves howling, although it's understandable why: Osborne was his pick after all. As Isle of View posts, Devaney was wise, and he was proven correct in choosing Osborne to succeed him as HC. Looking back, Solich's first six years compares very favorably to Osborne's first six, except he was in the MNC game where Osborne had to wait until his 10th year to get into the title game. I never cease to be amazed at how fans try to compare Solich's first six years to Osborne's years in the '90s, when he and his staff were at their peak.

Still beating this dead horse? It's hard to take your knowledge of NU football seriously if you think that Osborne suddenly woke up during the '90s and realized that he must start to recruit speed! Guy, let me introduce you to Irving Fryer, and Broderick Thomas to Jane a few. Or, are they not speedy enough for you?And, it wasn't his critics he listened to, rather, it was his friends, like Bobby Bowden (who in turn learned from Jimmy Johnson at Miami) along with hiring assistants like Kevin Steele, which lead to the defensive changes in the '90s, of putting linebackers at defensive ends, and defensive backs at linebacker positions. Oh it's much easier to pinpoint than that, flmilmflm. Tom Osborne woke up on January 2, 1991 after getting trounced by Georgia Tech in the Citrus Bowl warning his staff that they might get fired and knowing that his own job was on the line. While Nebraska could still chalk up 6 or 7 wins in the old Big 8, Osborne's strong but predictable offenses were getting shut down by the speedy and talent rich teams like Ga. Tech, Florida, Miami, Florida State and Oklahoma and Colorado in our own conference. The "critics" said Nebraska's offense was too predictable, and they were half-right. You still needed defensive speed on the corners to shut down the power option, and unfortunately for us, the elite teams now boasted that kind of defensive speed. As mentioned, Tom sought advice from the coaches who had bested him. Bowden was a friend. That doesn't mean Osborne didn't listen to the criticism. It's certainly to TO's credit that he was willing to change his philosophy 20 years into his career. That's what good coaches do. Osborne's recruiting changes revolved mostly around the defense, although grabbing a savvier, speedier quarterback from one of those "coastal talent" regions certainly helped, as we remember Florida's Tommie Frazier better than we do Aurora, Nebraska's Tom Haase, the starting QB against Georgia Tech on January 1, 1991. Irving Fryar (not Fryer) and Broderick Thomas certainly were fast. Is that all you can bring to the discussion? Again, it's hard to take your posts seriously, when you spout unsubstantiated rumors of firings and your continued disparaging of a HOF coach by claiming he and his staff weren't smart enough to figure out that they needed to recruit speed before 1990,despite my pointing out a few examples showing the opposite. To be honest, it's more an indication of your lack of knowledge of Osborne and his staff. Yes, he and his defensive staff made subtle changes, however, not in recruiting as you claim, but in the placement of players as I pointed out. The same changes that Miami, under JJ and his staff made prior, and then Bowden and his staff at FSU followed. Oh, and thanks to coach Steele, along with Kordel Stewart committing to CU, Frazier ended up at NU.

Still beating this dead horse? It's hard to take your knowledge of NU football seriously if you think that Osborne suddenly woke up during the '90s and realized that he must start to recruit speed! Guy, let me introduce you to Irving Fryer, and Broderick Thomas to name a few. Or, are they not speedy enough for you? And, it wasn't his critics he listened to, rather, it was his friends, like Bobby Bowden (who in turn learned from Jimmy Johnson at Miami) along with hiring assistants like Kevin Steele, which lead to the defensive changes in the '90s, of putting linebackers at defensive ends, and defensive backs at linebacker positions.

It embarrasses me that 58,869,434 people in this country voted for a woman who clearly broke the law, set up pay for play schemes to enrich herself using her position as SOS, and was arms running in Libya to jihadists. I understand the hate on the part of a lot of people regarding Trump. I really do. But for crime's sake there were others on the ballot to vote for besides a criminal. This is a sad testament to the sorry educational system in this country. And the moral corruption.

Nah. Frost learned how to deal with the "greatest" fans while he as at NU. Fans don't have any power over players, unless they give them the power. They certainly can't fire anyone. It's the administration that has to give Frost pause, if he truly has aspirations to coach at NU. That administration, in the form of two incompetent ADs, along with a complicit and incompetent chancellor, has made two of the most damaging decisions regarding coaches, that have put NU in the position it finds itself in. NU had two coaches who brought the football program to basically where Harbaugh has Michigan now. They both went to the CCG In their second year; one winning and one losing. But, to the short sighted administrators, that, along with other accomplishments, wasn't enough, and both were eventually fired. I wouldn't put my trust in the school's administration to watch my back. Urban Meyer was right in his observations about the administration back in 2003/2004, and how he would not work for a program that fires a coach who won nine games.

Turner Gill left the quarterback position in shambles for Callahan and Pelini when Nebraska tried to modernize the offense. Horrible. Just horrible. I never cease to be amazed at fans who expect coaching staffs, who were fired (for whatever reason they want to believe), feel it is that staff's responsibility to recruit players for the replacement coaching staff which fit their in-coming offense. See for example, Joe Dailey and how he was mercilessly trashed.

Uh, according to the current AD, Riley has to win the "right" games. Whatever the flux that means.

You better add Joe Dailey to that list as well. I'd say he is at the top. I read so much garbage spewed his way by so many "Nowledable" fans on forums for what happened in 2004. He was also thrown under the bus by the coaching staff after that season. No wonder he transferred. So, yeah, kudos to your comment regarding many forum fans deserving a kick in their arse.

Oops. My bad. Not only were the emails found on Huma's cell phone, but her husband's (the weiner) too. And he has no security clearance whatsoever. Pardon the interruption. Continue with the excuses please. They are hilarious.

Sheesh. Because they came from Huma Abedin's cell phone! Good grief! The amount of excuses made for a felon around here is beyond the pale.

There's absolutely no truth in that. First, Callahan was incompetent as a HC to begin with. See his stint at Oakland. Second, he could have offered the DC to Pelini, although I doubt Pelini would have worked for him, much less under a department with SPEM at the helm, after the way he was dumped by SPEM. Last, Callahan's offenses were not that good. He padded his stats against scrubs. See USC in 2007 as but one example.

Those of you jumping on CM, why don't you read post #376 again, specifically this: "1. Dimensions of Navy's OL this year: OT - 6'4" 300lbs, OG - 6'3" 294lbs, C - 6'2" 271lbs, OG - 6'3" 297lbs, OT - 6'4" 281lbs. Behind them you have 3 guys who are in the 295+ range, including a 330 pounder - all are 6'2" or taller. That's basically no different than the dimensions of most of our OL starters and backups." He stated exactly what many of you thought he didn't, yet instead, you selectively choose to jump all over his later hyperbolic statement. By the way, how come none of you jumping on CM, didn't jump on LOMS for his false statement, which provoked CM's response in the first place? That's a rhetorical question, of course, because I know why: your agenda wouldn't let you read what you should have read.

As long as P-man hired SPEM, and I believe he would have, or someone like him, since Byrne would have left anyway, Solich was a goner. Results on the football field were not the main cause of his firing, as evidence by Solich's accomplishments, which were on-par with Osborne's and Devaney's results earlier in their careers. Tragically, underestimating the egos of P-man and SPEM, and the damage they did to the NU football program is a serious error continuously committed by many NU fans to this day.

Yeah? In what way? Do you believe Devaney did the same for Osborne?

There was never any serious talk about firing because the AD, Devaney, would never have pulled a SPEM. He was smart enough to know what he had. That is what entitlement minded fans do. Which is why it was important for Osborne to have the full support of his AD, unlike with Solich, and of course Pelini. There isn't one for Osborne. And, thanks to Devaney, there is no reason for one.

Too bad that Osborne was not able to step into the AD position like Devaney did when he promoted Osborne to replace him. He would have shielded Solich from the wolves (fans) as Devaney did him, and this thread would not exist. NU would have had three successive coaches who won 100 or more games, an unprecedented feat in the modern times.

Outside of results like the mid to late '90s, SPEM would not have retained Solich.

No, I was not. I was pointing out how Osborne's tenure did NOT always consist of teams like those he had in the mid to late '90s. Reading comprehension people. Learn it, use it. According to some, Osborne's whole career was like the mid to late '90s with talent laden teams. Yet they conveniently skip years like I point out. In fact, his 1977 team wasn't that good either, talent wise, and ended up in the Bluebonnet Bowl. He was given the proper support by a much smarter AD than NU has now, and as a result, the mid to late '90s happened, with some other highlights, like 1981-1983, mid '80s, and of course, the lows. All thanks to Devaney. Because if some of the fans on this forum were around then, they would have screamed for Osborne to be fired several times.

Never stated one way or another. I was merely pointing out to a poster (in a round about way) that talent alone does not guarantee a run like NU had in the mid to late '90s.

The amount of ignorance, and revisionism in some of the posts is just astounding. That is what Solich hate will do. Solich got NU on the brink of a MNC in 1999 after winning the Big 12 conference. He brought his team to the MNC in 2001. Yes, those teams had talent, some of which Solich inherited. Yet, I read one post about Les Miles, and all of the talent he gets. In comparison, Miles won one MNC, lost one, and has two conference championships. Yet, we can't know how things would have worked out had Solich stayed as head coach?!

So, where are all of Miles' National Championships? I mean, he does have all that talent. At least, according to you. You are either too young to remember, willfully ignorant of Osborne's career (outside of the mid to late '90s), a BRBer, or a troll, because your posts are chock full of Solich hate. The players of the 1990 team, didn't look like anything resembling the '93 through '97 teams. And that 1990 team was preseason #1 in at least one of the polls. They ended the year with two consecutive blowouts, albeit, to at least one who won a share of the MNC. And, if it wasn't for Bienemy's gifts in the form of 4 fumbles, CU would have blown them out in Lincoln. Solich's 2003 team would have defeated that 1990 team pretty easily. For those who still think Solich couldn't recruit, does the name Mike Rozier mean anything to you?

Funny isn't it? Perlman does something "wrong" for the right intentions and he is the worst. Osborne does something "wrong" for the right intentions and he gets a pass. That is a joke. Only intention Pman and SPEM had were to boost their egos.

Is this the general notion? That a university president's most important function is fielding a football team? I don't think any other university president out there will base their legacy upon the successes and failures of a f'ing football team. Why don't you go over to the forum specifically dedicated to UNL academics, and make this point? It might serve you and Prickman better.

Maybe you should pay more attention to academics also...Might do you some good. Yeah, we're on a forum discussing Husker FOOTBALL, and I should pay more attention to academics? Hilarious! No wonder some of you support the mediocrity that NU Football has sunk to. You can't see the forest for the trees!