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I am not "guessing" and I do understand percentages. I do have a college education in biology with an extensive math background. Here is some clickbait from the web. There is a lot more in support of and against these findings. The one thing they all agree on is that there are a lot more positives in society than what is being counted which results in significantly lower death rates. https://www.livescience.com/covid-antibody-test-results-new-york-test.html From NY Cuomo himself - "If the actual infection rate among the entire population is similar to the early sample infection rate they found of 13.9%, it would change the death rate of the state, Cuomo said. New York is reporting 15,500 COVID-19 deaths, and if 2.7 million people were infected, that would mean the death rate would be 0.5%, Cuomo said." https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-04-20/coronavirus-serology-testing-la-county Hundreds of thousands in L.A. County may have been infected with coronavirus, study finds https://www.vox.com/2020/4/24/21229415/coronavirus-antibody-testing-covid-19-california-survey The Covid-19 antibody surveys found that the virus is more common and less dangerous than previously thought The only thing we do know is that there are a lot more Covid-19 cases out there than what is being reported. Studies from major universities believe the actual rate to be somewhere between .2 and .5% or 2-5 out of every 1000 patients.

Antibody tests all over the world have proven that the actual number of cases is exponentially higher than what is being reported. The vast majority of cases have gone unreported as the patients were either asymptomatic or they never became sick enough to warrant being tested. Through much of the world, health care providers were only testing people if they were sick enough to be admitted to hospitals. That is changing as tests become more readily available but it still won't account for all the asymptomatic cases. Estimates through different areas range from 20% to as high as 90+% of cases are asymptomatic. Nobody will ever know exact numbers as it's impossible to test the whole world population and even if we could, most tests have a 5%+ error factor.

That's the point, it's pretty dang rare to have a good season when you drop the opener. Especially so when you have a team with somewhat of a confidence issue over the past several seasons. I would venture to say we win 3+ more games in 2018 if we beat Colorado. A team that believes is pretty hard to beat.

Losing the first game of the year has major implications that are difficult to overcome. Name a decent season we have had where we dropped the opener.

There is no decimal error. .5% is 5 people out of every 1000. The actual rate will be lower than this if/when they can get accurate numbers of all the people who have had this that never were tested. This sickness sucks... It's really bad. But it's not killing 1 in 20 that gets it.

Another thing to consider. I'm guessing the QBs talk. If Vedral is throwing in the towel it's also because he believes LM has no intentions of leaving. To me, Luke was the QB we all should be concerned with transferring so in a sense Vedral leaving is actually pretty good news regarding our QB depth.

Vedral came here for the chance to work more with Frost/Verduzco. He was never going to be QB1 unless there were major injuries. He got to see the field some and learned a lot. He is a really smart guy and knows he isn't going to see the field unless AM and LM go down to injury. He can also see that he would likely be 4th on the depth chart next year. It's the perfect time for him to transfer. Add to that the closures from the virus so wherever he goes he won't be behind for the current season. I thought most expected this move. I'm hoping he goes to Wyoming. The Cowboys currently have a RS/SO and a true Freshman on the depth chart and their projected starter only had 95 passes last year with a 51.6% completion and 1TD to 4 INT. I think Vedral would be a massive upgrade for them and he would get to stay fairly close to home. Wish him the best of luck!

What are mercenaries in this game? I see had 4 yesterday.

I'm finally up to a 2 star!

I feel differently. If the country opens up, round 2 will either be much larger and quicker (see original spikes discussed) or it won't happen until winter time. In either case, I think there will be football this fall.

I don't disagree but keep in mind the flu cases weren't being sought out to the degree that Covid is. Imagine the flu showing up with nobody in the country having any antibodies against it and no vaccine in place. I think it would look very similar to what we are seeing. I think you would see a lot more people in the hospital from the flu if that were the case. My point is this virus isn't quite what it was hyped to be in my opinion. I'm guessing it will still be here 2 years from now but it will be regarded similarly with other nasty viruses that we ignore on a daily basis.

I think the information we really need to understand is the rate of asymptomatic cases. Prisons aren't exactly controlled environments but the data here is interesting and encouraging. https://www.news18.com/news/world/nearly-3300-inmates-test-positive-for-covid-19-in-four-us-state-prisons-95-had-no-symptoms-2593079.html Even if the general populations asymptomatic rate is only 1/3 of what was found in these prisons, the death rate would be well below 1% and actually pretty dang close to the flu. I still support measures being taken and am a little confused by Nebraska opening up when we seem to be peaking in cases. That makes little sense to me but as more data like this comes out I am feeling better about the situation as a whole.

Refreshed my page and it's there now. Thanks.

Having a home isn't a requirement to getting a stimulus check. https://www.streetsensemedia.org/article/coronavirus-relief-stimulus-low-income-access/ https://community.solutions/help-ensure-unhoused-neighbors-get-their-stimulus-checks/ https://www.pressherald.com/2020/04/10/starting-next-week-americans-can-give-irs-direct-deposit-information-to-get-stimulus-check-faster/

I'm really not sure why I'm taking the time to chat about all of this smh. I'm sorry you didn't see the message in the posted link. Here are a few more examples. https://www.businessinsider.com/experts-say-coronavirus-may-cause-spike-in-alcohol-abuse-2020-3 https://www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-poses-risk-relapse-among-individuals-recovery-expert-says https://drugfree.org/learn/drug-and-alcohol-news/addiction-experts-say-coronavirus-isolation-is-trigger-for-relapse/ https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/how-do-life/202003/tough-problems-substance-abuse-in-the-time-coronavirus https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-vices-alcohol-marijuana-food-23f02d5e-b82b-4944-8609-b4479af1070e.html https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/coronavirus-alcohol-lockdown-health-research-alcoholism-a9468431.html https://www.huffpost.com/entry/signs-drinking-too-much-alcohol-coronavirus-pandemic_l_5e94af29c5b648be9e39f58a https://fortworthtexas.gov/news/2020/04/COVID-19-Alcohol-Drug-Addiction/ https://www.newsobserver.com/news/state/north-carolina/article242199871.html https://www.missourinet.com/2020/04/05/coronavirus-outbreak-expected-to-increase-drug-and-alcohol-addiction-in-missouri/ I never said you were unreasonable. It is clear you are convinced so you are not likely to try to understand another's opinion. I'll be done with this thread after this post. No harm intended, I just feel differently than you. I do take the virus very seriously and have had first hand exposure to it. It's not something I would wish on anyone. I know a lot of people are sick and some will not make it. My stance is that I believe some are capitalizing on a very bad situation and they should be called out- regardless of their political affiliation.

It came from another forum. I don't know the guy personally so it may be? It does make sense when you throw a lot of money into a situation where many of those didn't have free money before. Alcohol and drug use has risen significantly across the nation. https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/a-tale-of-two-epidemics-when-covid-19-and-opioid-addiction-collide-2020042019569 But it really doesn't matter what I post. You are going to call BS on anything and spin it the way you want- just like much of the media is doing.

Why isn't there an option to defend Iowa?

I'm a republican. I also think Trump is an idiot that says stupid things sometimes. I have no intention of defending anything he says but I do think he was the correct person for the job at the time he was elected. If the democrats could put a decent person up there to run against him it would be a fairly easy win imo. Biden isn't that guy though so I'm guessing it will be close this fall. Addressing the additional deaths in NY - Here is a quote from a guy seeing it first hand. "I work for a Fairly large metro fire depart on east coast. Since the day the trump checks hit we have been crushed with heroin over doses. Generally we ride 5-6 a week(pre covid) We are currently around 18-20. Also noted the homeless are now drinking $50 bottles of scotch and brandy as opposed to the yellow listerine. My rookie noted the other day that the checks were more dangerous than covid. Guess this proves you can’t throw money at problems."

Typically if a person is arguing their point to be correct, they trust it. I added the blind because in reality none of us know for sure right now. Not even the doctors and scientists. False or inaccurate reporting of the number of deaths is extremely harmful to the world so you are correct, I do believe in some. What is the agenda? I think it's money. In NY 3700 Covid-19 deaths at 13k each is almost 50 million dollars. Other states are receiving a lot more per case. I believe a lot more information will come out as time goes on proving more wrong information. None of it will fix the situation but maybe as a society we will handle the next virus a little better.

Complete and blind trust in governments and the media is not constructive, honest, or healthy. You do realize that neither of them has the citizens best interests in mind 100% of the time. Scientists, doctors, government officials, and health care providers are also offering conflicting opinions. Conspiracy was a strong word but my intention is that the average person should view what they read and hear as opinions instead of 100% fact right now.

So it's not a fact when NY state comes out and says they are counting 3700 deaths in the total that were never tested? That's as factual as you can get. I always knew CNN had a loyal fan base... I just never met one of them. Check that off the list.

There are obviously conflicting reports and information out there all over. We are all going to believe what we want to believe. Some of us lean more towards conspiracy while others don't. That's ok. In reality we are all probably "right" to some degree. I'm sure some deaths do go unreported and I'm sure some others are stretched. None of that changes the situation we are in currently. Hopefully some time soon we get more clarity and have a path to end this sooner rather than later.

Not talking about people sick or how sick this makes some people. As I stated, they and I know it very serious, and it does kill some people. It's nothing to take lightly. However, discussing reported death rates is a completely different subject.

I have a couple of close friends working in the healthcare field. I won't quote them directly but will say they are confident that Covid-19 is being over reported. To be clear, they think it's serious and should be respected. They just feel the american public has been and continues to be fed a steady dose of worst case scenario. https://amgreatness.com/2020/04/06/are-covid-19-deaths-being-overreported/ https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/hospital-payments-and-the-covid-19-death-count/ Gotham’s Health Department abruptly added 3,700 victims to the COVID-19 death toll even though these decedents were not tested.https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-problem-with-new-york-citys-covid-19-death-rate-estimates/ There are a ton of articles out there if you look. Hospitals getting paid extra for Covid-19 patients, lack of autopsies on deceased, some states trying to justify past actions, etc. There is reason for skepticism if one looks for it.

Agree completely but the media doesn't report that. Take a look back and see what the cause of death is reported as. 99% are "we are sad to report that the patient lost a long battle with cancer". Now it's, "we are sad to say another covid-19 death has been reported". Some honest sources add the line "The patient did have underlying health conditions". Again, I think this virus is serious and I'm doing my part. I just think the media is playing it for everything it's worth and making it seem as bad as possible. That's how they get people to keep clicking their stories. To stay on topic, I'll add that the media's reporting will absolutely impact all of society, including whether we have a season next fall. They are putting a ton of fear out there- some rightfully so.