okay, I went down to verizon to finally make a decision but I left empty handed. They had saved an incredible for me but wanted 350-150 rebate for it so I told them I would pass right now. I am not messing with that crappy rebate thing because walmart sells the incredible for a flat $200 when you can get it. Also, a verizon rep called me a few weeks ago and said if I wanted to upgrade, they would give me $75 towards a new phone, but my local verizon store could not give it to me because they are not a "corporate store". How can they not be a corporate store? I am so confused