Lorewarn

Shawn Watson was the offensive coordinator in 2010.

Anyone watching these games and know what the deal is? Everyone playing hero ball? Sub par coaching?

You must have been a star.

I'm starting to get ads auto-playing audio in threads. Is there any chance that auto sound playing can be turned off?

I still think if that first game doesn't get canceled due to the lightning we end up at least 6-6 in 2018 which would have snowballed further. Starting with the close loss to Colorado with no warm up and severe blue balls really threw us down a well it took too long to climb out of.

Flexing on owning two corvettes is way more egregious than admitting to having a regular game of D&D with good friends. No hate from me there, it's a great time and outlet to be creative and have fun in a social setting. I thought the ignorant caricature of having to be a fat virgin nerd to like things like that died a long time ago but I guess it never completely goes away with some.

That's what I was afraid of

I haven't seen a major program go through a 19 year stretch with zero top ten finishes, zero conference championships, and zero major bowl appearances. Who/when are you referring to?

This reminds me of a high school game of mine. We were playing Cedar Rapids in a holiday tournament, and ended up winning 51-50 on a buzzer beater rebound tip in. My best friend who hit the game winning shot had 25 points, our captain/point guard had 24 points, and I had 2 that was our total scoring output hahaha.

We weren't relevant in 2009 outside of that one second and Suh. Texas was playing to go to the national championship, we were playing to be an underdog cinderella - don't equate those as the same. 2001 was the last time we were relevant. 20 years ago, here's what's happened since: Since then, Texas has had seven top 10 finishes, two conference championships, five major bowl appearances/wins, and one national championship. Nebraska has had zero, zero, zero, and zero.

I don't think we should actively end it, just see it for what it is and not freak out if/when it does end someday.

The big picture for me points out that our long stretch is somewhat unique compared to all other historically successful long stretches in that while the averages are similar, they still had pockets and flashes of occasionally reaching high. Texas has only been struggling for a decade and still has a top 10 finish and NY6 bowl win in there. USC was Pac-12 champs and top 10 four years ago, and #5 and Rose Bowl champs the year before that. Florida State won a national championship and got to the playoff in the last decade. Tennessee sucks with no signs of progress, which is sadly the same boat we're in We have zero top ten finishes, zero conference championships, zero major bowl appearances let alone wins since 2002.

But they also had 12 Top-15 Finishes (2 vacated), 3 Conference Championships and 1 National Championship over that 23 years.

You're right in that that doesn't need explanation, and you don't need to explain to me what a sell out IS. I understand that just fine. I just said that it doesn't seem to be that valuable. Does it, though? Maybe a little bit, but it's only a technicality. Notre Dame's streak obviously didn't speak volumes to their fans dedication because us and Georgia and others have exposed that more than once. Rich boosters and banks and car dealerships buying up tickets when we suck and it's in jeopardy doesn't speak to the fanbase dedication. I'll put it this way. I had no idea Notre Dame's sellout streak ended, and I don't think their fans got any less dedicated or passionate in between their last sellout and the next game that wasn't sold out.

I know what it is, technically speaking, I'm just wondering about how valuable such a thing is. It's a neat thing to tell a friend who knows nothing about our program and history, kind of a shortcut to comprehension of our fans, but outside of that it doesn't seem to be worth much.

So if a sell out is a sell out, but a sell out can still count if you have a third empty stadium, or your stadium gets taken over by 50%+ of the other team's fans... doesn't seem like a sell out is worth very much.

This Notre Dame?

Persecuted is a very strong word. Even if it's an accurate one, maintaining the same standards of excellence from a program that doesn't have the infrastructure or talent or stability or resources to achieve excellence is, by definition, unreasonable. Your expectations should be commensurate with the building blocks and landscape context they're based on or related to.

Which will happen first? The Ole Miss quarterback gets his $10,000 booking fee or Nebraska55fan reminds us how he successfully predicted all of this for the 10,000th time

That's...what I said. If you use Callahan's Rivals ranking vs Frost's 247, Callahan wins, but if you use his Scout/247 ranking against Frost's Rivals, he doesn't.

I guess you're right, Solich's first four were a better average than Frost's. Callahan has massive disparities between different services - if you go with Rivals for him compared to 247 for Frost he wins out, but if you go with Scout or PrepStar or ESPN he does not. Still, per some, the best since we were still a top 10, 11+ win program. Solich 1998 - #10 1999 - #25 2000 - #12 2001 - #14 Frost 2021 - #20 247 / #18 Rivals 2020 - #20 / #17 Rivals 2019 - #17 / #15 Rivals 2018 - #23 / #21 Rivals

I'd say the opposite - we collectively are incredible at finding the pessimistic lens to look through even when we're winning 10-11-12 games.

I don't think it's that we won't do that as much as it's that none of them would come here. Wal-Mart's board members can say, "All we need to do is hire Jeff Bezos and he'll make us good!" and yeah I guess they're right that in the hypothetical he would, but in the real world that's a waste of time to think about. His recruiting is the best of any coach since Osborne as far as average ranking over a four year period. Different athletic departments and athletic directors and the last one was 7 years and much higher expectations ago.

We can have more than 3 or 4 losses without B.S. excuses. An entire season is its own entity that is more than the aggregated sum of all the individual games. This is where we often get disappointed as fans because we only look at it in terms of single game units instead of one large thing, which can drastically change based off of very difficult to quantify elements. Also, please never say 'Restore The Order' again lol

Don't think we've ever seen a team sport athlete with the same ability to just decide on something and then inflict it at will.