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Frost was a great hire at the time. 20/20 hindsight after the fact of a coach failing has no bearing on whether they were a great hire or the right hire at the time. The most educated and genius football minds to ever exist couldn't have predicted how Frost would have turned out.

For Nebraska, in recent memory, Bo was a near unanimous #1 amongst the fanbase and was the person Tom sought out. Then when he was fired, there was no clear favorite choice outside of the brief 'JIM TRESSEL WAS IN LINCOLN' hilarity where we all got suckered into a groupthink spiral of delusion. Then Frost was obviously the only candidate last time around. There is no one single person who makes sense the way that Bo and Frost did this time, and in addition to that a lot of the fanbase is suffering from PTSD and are now too scared to think we can take a risk on anything other than a proven guaranteed choice, which doesn't actually exist, so they have to convince themselves that X is actually safe and dependable and guaranteed.

Most don't. It's a very challenging predicament - kids and more specifically teenagers very often embody tissue paper in a slight breeze, blown any direction on a whim by a powerful neurochemical cocktail of all sorts of developing impulses. It's legitimately impossible to legislate a good solution because the answers will be different and unique to many, and the only good path forward for any individual is having good parents to help guide them through and know when something is more than a phase or less than a permanent identity crisis. But the idea that there are vast, or even a notable amount, of parents actively WANTING that for their kids is an asinine accusation. Parents that don't push back against gender-blurring norms? Maybe, sure, especially from a more conservative social point of view. But parents actively pushing for their kids to be trans or queer ala Johnny Moxon's dad in Varsity Blues? Please. There's no shortage of bad parenting out there, and there's no exception for parents of trans kids, but unengaged parents not taking it seriously are a far graver and more prominent problem than activist parents trying to cut off their kids genitals. I think in part because the LGBTQ community is barely something that could even be called a community and is itself not even close to united on anything let alone any particular issue.

I actually agree with all of this except that I would still maintain it is a tiny and loud minority, which doesn't dismiss the idea that there is a lot of power and weight to it. 100% agree. This is very much how I live in the real world and surround myself with friends and acquaintances I feel able to battle with re: ideas. I don't lean into it much on here because there seem to be very few people ready to explore in good faith, and the attempts get drowned out and pushed to previous pages too quickly by the trolls, ideologues and obstinate folks.

Our line is god awful, but I think the 2005 line is definitely the worst by far and any other claim is a far, far second place.

My ideal quarterback is a good one. Casey and Adrian are both really good. Very comparable.

You claimed that they aren't "even remotely on the same playing field as passers". I showed you that through 6 games at the same school at the same age with some of the same players and some of the same coaches their numbers are almost identical. I'd say by definition that qualifies as being at least 'remotely' close.

You're looking at his fifth year at Kansas State.

Rs are now positing that being critical of Israel and being anti-semitic are the same thing?

The word on Petersen was not that he would never leave Boise - it was that he would never leave the northwest/west coast, in part due to culture but also in part due to health issues with his kid. Similarly Fickell would absolutely leave Cincinnati, but it's less likely he'll leave Ohio and less that he'll leave the Great Lakes midwestern region.

100/150 (66.6%) - 1463 yards - 6 TD - 2 INT - 166.58 QBR - 9.75 YPA 118/180 (65.6%) - 1497 yards - 9 TD - 6 INT - 145.2 QBR - 8.3 YPA Which is which through 6 games in their fourth season?

Your first and only claim was that Casey is making throws we haven't seen in years. And you cherrypicked examples, so I cherrypicked examples of the same types of throws from literally only last year. You don't need to try and come up with a half dozen other tangent talking points about how they're different or whatever different point you're trying to get to now, as I wasn't addressing any of that. Only the specific point that we have never seen those throws before.

It's hard to know, but on principle I'm always skeptical of coaches who had a miraculous year 2 and then weren't around long enough to see if it was a fluke or not. Gene Chizik went 14-0 in year 2 at Auburn.

Absolutely. Frost was great at developing a lethal quarterback run game with Adrian, but that was far too much out of necessity not having the development/talent at the RB position to lean on. Both quarterbacks have had to deal with god awful lines, and while Casey has the benefit of Grant, Adrian had the benefit of much greater escapability. They're overall remarkably similar in terms of their physical ability throwing the ball - the best thing Casey has had going for him is better decision making, and even that isn't all that drastic but it is absolutely an edge. Basically all I'm saying is that it doesn't take being down on the former guys to appreciate the current guy.

While I think your criticisms are wildly overblown (essentially a tiny but loud minority of young people and college students caring about something too much), I'll take going too far in the direction of something like differences in gender/sex than too far in the direction of a fascist authoritarian nation state, gun flagellation and ruining our planet for money any day.

Casey's playing well, but there's no reason to overstate this to the point of being pure fiction. I've timestamped some similar throws. Perfect sideline pass? Quick strike to a streaking tight end? Thrown to a spot for the receiver to catch and run? Long balls put in the perfect spot?

Are you suggesting that you don't believe people get paid to speak at colleges...? Who's doing these two things?

Here's your answer. The coach who can get us to top 20 finishes with top 50 talent is the coach who can recruit top 15 classes here.

Here's your answer. The coach who can get us to top 20 finishes with top 50 talent is the coach who can recruit top 15 classes here.

Losing has nothing to do with fight.

lol what Whipple is not an interim OC.

He was voted the 2nd most underrated coach in the country in a poll of head coaches the year before we hired him.

It really seems like "YES!" after a 10 minute delay on a good play is all he says anymore.

Every coach who's ever had a successful career had one place give them a chance before anyone else did. "If Mike Kryzewski was such a great coach in 1975 he would've gotten hired by somewhere better than Army." See how dumb that sounds?

People want to equate it with the Big XII North and that's just not true. The B1G West has been the 3rd best division in college football for most of the last 5-6 years behind the SEC West and B1G East.