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How is Parish so much different than Whitmore? Who said he was. It wasn't me. nobody has come out and said they aren't different, but i don't see a bunch of posts blasting Whitmore. Seems like Parish is getting catching a lot of heat, whereas Whitmore (who would probably bolt if LSU were to come calling) isn't getting any. There seems to be a bit of a double standard.

We have several high rated O lineman. If the staff were concerned about top talent scaring off other commits, then it stands to reason they would've had these guys commit quietly. As is the case, they didn't do that. I'm also unaware of them ever doing this in the past. It's a possibility i suppose, but based on the staff's history it doesn't seem very likely to me.

How is Parish so much different than Whitmore?

Why do it silently instead of making it public?

I'm uncomfortable with the precedent it sets by pulling his scholly. Although i don't like his comments and question the validity of this kids committment, in essence we'd be pulling a scholly because we don't like what he said in the press. How does that play out down the road with recruiting? If this kid is looking to go else where, he'll decommitt on his own. Let him be the one to backout on his word, not the staff. In the meantime, continue to pursue other guys at his spot. I think we still two or three defensive lineman with his committ anyway.

i have heard him described as a "soft" verbal

I agree with AR. This is a terrific site for recruiting, and that is because of all the hard work that people put in on this board. Many thanks to all those responsible.

I am probably in the minority here but it sounds like he is simply interviewing schools and coaches that he is considering. That was my impression. But the fact that he's set tomorrow as the day to announce his decision makes me think he's more or less made his decision, while asking each coach a series of questions makes me think he's still very much considering his options. It's not so much that i think what he's doing is right or wrong, just that it all seems a little odd. But whatever, i don't really care much.

NU to the big 10 makes little sense as far as i can tell. For one, there's more than just football to think of, and the big 10 prides itself on it's bball. We bring very little in this regard. Football wise, i don't think the other schools would want us because of the very difficult schedules that would be created in conference play. Lastly, for the fledgling network the big 10 is starting up, Nebraska doesn't offer much as far as major market cities go. I think Mizzou makes more all around sense than we do, as well as Pitt whom Penn St. already has a natural rivalry with. If the big 10 isn't high on these guys, then i'd think they are even less interested in us. I could see Texas as being attractive to the big 10, but why would UT want to leave the big 12? I don't see Tenn leaving the SEC.

They are claiming that they beat us out at QB (we shall see) , RB(Tony Temple is god) and WR. I do think they have a good kicker. It's all on Tigerboard. Great for a laugh. They have the better offense basically. Ask them about the other side of the ball and it gets quiet, until someone pipes up with a "what is this dee-fense you speak of". They rattle off offensive statistics, and talk up their players like it's an unstoppable juggernaught. Yet ask them why they failed to put up points against the better defenses like OU, fail to win games like Oregon State or lose to bizarre oponents like ISU and they act like your speaking some foreign language. Not to mention questions about that "other" side of the ball. It's suprising how similar talking to a MU fan this year is compared to listening to a TTU for the last several years. Mizzou is turning into the Tech of the north... and i'm starting to understand why the Aggies find Raider fans so annoying.

He hasn't visited us, so i'll be very shocked if he picks us. I think he's only visited two out of his final five: PSU and FSU. My money would be on one of those.

We do seem to loose out more often than not to the top programs like OU, LSU and USC. There are two things that i think are behind this. One, those programs are associated with a high level of success and BCS bowls. Recruiting has definitely improved under BC so far, but in order for NU to take it to the next step we need a break out season. Something like 11 wins and a BCS game. If we can do this, then the steady stream of talent might turn into a flood. Two, Nebraska is relativley small state with no fertile recruiting area close by except Texas. This makes us relly more on national recruiting than the like of USC, Florida, and such. Even at USC height, it's very difficult for them to go into Alabama and pull a top talent out of the Tide's backyard. Imo, this underscores that it is difficult to pull kids out of someone elses backyard (especially the SEC). The reality for NU is, imo, that we will always have a harder time recruiting top talent than most other programs. Thus, we will always have a larger percentage of dissapointments, even under the best circumstances.

When it comes down to it, if we are talking academics alone, ND is considered a better institution. I have not attended ND, and I have not attended NU, so I am not saying that ND offers a superior education on the most literal level than NU. HOWEVER, if two guys both got their undergraduate degrees, one at each school...and they were completely equal in every aspect , and all connections aside, are both applying for the same job, the ND graduate wins every time. As far as the argument that a "slacker" student at ND, is no better off than a great student at NU...this is completely irrelevant. We are talking about ONE young man. You have to assume he will put forth the same effort at both schools. I don't really understand the logic with this argument. Given a random group of graduates with all major things being equal, such as GPA, major, experience, then yes the ND grads probably would win out in a head to head competition. They will also, as a group, probably recieve a higher average salary, more desireable positions, etc. This is exactly where, and only where, ND gives an advantage imo. This what i mean when i say the "average" student from ND probably gets better oportunities than the one from UNL would. However, when you talk about one individual, you can throw the stats out the window. Assuming he puts forth the same effort at both schools, my opinion is that he will get the same level of education wether he goes to UNL or ND. That's what i mean when i say it is the effort of the student that matters most, not the school they attend. The big advantage might be the connections he'd make through ND, but given his situation as being a football player, i'd argue he'll make similarly good connections with UNL as well.

I didn't mean tOSU as a high level school. Was trying to cover a broad range of schools, though i guess i didn't do so well. Point was an undergrad from UNL can be just as well trained as an undergrad from anywhere else - high, medium, or low. It really has to do with the effort the student puts in, not with the school they are going to. I certainly do not mean what i'm saying as a knock on these schools, they are great schools. The point i'm trying to make is that for undergrads, UNL probably isn't that far off if you're willing to put in the work. I mentioned Cal Tech because i think their applied math program is an instance where the school does give a big advantage in training. Berkley is regarded as one of the best, if not the best, places in the world to study mathematics. But this ranking covers a combo of both the theoretical and the applied. For someone looking at Applied Math, you can do no better than Cal Tech. The program there is so incredibly rigorous that only top candidates make it through. Their undergrad program is akin to a graduate program at other schools. It is my understanding that MIT is also this way. This is somewhat different than places like Stanford and Cal, who do turn out less than top people. That's why i mentioned them, because i think there are some instances where an undergrad program gives a certain level of education above what you might find elsewhere, and they are examples of it. Here with Cal Tech's applied math program, students from other schools might be able to equal their level, but almost never will they surpasse it. However, it's also my belief that these instances are few and far between. For the most part, the student is going to get out of it what they put into it.

Come on guys, lets be serious, Notre Dame is most certainly a better school than Nebraska. Depends on what you mean by "better". The average grad from ND will probably have more opportunity than the average grad from UNL, but i think this is mostly to do with the connections you get by going to ND vs UNL. Statistically speaking, ND leads to better jobs for the average individual. I'm unsure of ND success with placement into graduate school. They probably have an advantage here too, but i would suspect it also has more to do with connections. In terms of the education recieved, i think most of it has to do with the effort the student puts in vs which school they go to. I believe this is true for most all undergrad programs. A grad from UNL can be just as knowledgeable and trained as a grad from ND, Harvard, UM, tOSU etc. Likewise, a person who slacks off at one of these "great" schools will be just as worthless as a slacker from any other school. There are a few exceptions that i can think of (like Cal Tech and MIT if you are looking for a math or engineering grad) but for the most part, at the undergraduate level, the student is the most important factor not the school. The graduate level is where things start to change, and certain schools most definitely do give an advantage depending on major, area of interest, resources etc. Thus, imo, the greatest advantage ND has is it's job connections for it's alumni. Which, is not something to take lightly. However, Trevor would hardly be the average grad from UNL and is probably thinking NFL after college anyway. For a guy in Trevor's situation, i do think ND "betterness" is minimal.

Notre Dame supposedly has one of the best networks for it's graduates. However, i'm sure former football players from NU get a lot of doors opened for them also. It's not like he will be the average NU or ND graduate. Acadmecially, he'll only get out of it what he puts into at either place. If he works hard, he can just as good an education at NU as he would at ND, imo. Conections wise, he should be in a great position from either place as well. This is all moot if Trevor goes to the NFL. On that note, i think ND and NU present about the same opportunity of getting there. Really, i think whoever said he can't go wrong at either place is right. Both schools can give him a great education (with the possibility of a poor one if he doesn't put in the effort), both give him a good shot at going to the NFL, both give him a good shot of having a career after football if the NFL isn't in his future. Both present about equal opportunity of playing time.

it's a curious distinction with the Big 12. Kansas - KU Colorado - CU Baylor - BU Missouri - MU Nebraska - NU Texas is the only one that goes by the more "traditional" order with UT. I'm not sure why, but i thought it might have to do with confusion. Michigan is UM, so if Missouri went by the same acronym it might get a little confusing. Michigan and Missouri are relatively close, so this confusion might end up being quite comon place. Similarly, people might confuse Kansas with Kentucky (both big time bball schools). It doesn't explain why CU, NU, and BU do this, or why Texas is so adamant about being UT instead of TU, but it's the only explanation i have ever heard as to why the big 12 does this.

The impression i've gotten is that daddy is behind much of this thing. If true, i actually feel pretty sorry for Trevor. He must be going through quite an ordeal, only made worse if it's by his father's own hand.

[i-back Cody Glenn, bothered by a nagging foot injury since November, is running well this summer, Ganz said. “You can just tell he’s not really favoring that foot,” Ganz said. “He’s back to how we remember him running.”] That's encouraging to hear.

I've heard some clarification on ND's policy of visiting. A committed player is not allowed to take an official visit. He must decommitt first in order for that to happen. However, committed kids are allowed to take unofficial visits, which means they have to pay their own way. It sounds like this is what Robinson is doing, therefore he may not have to decommitt. Also, i've heard that it's the dad who wants Trevor to go to ND or UM. Apparently he's with UNO, and values the academics at ND and UM much better than NU. It could be Trevor is still committed and not having second thoughts, at this time, but being jerked around by his dad.

i think there's a little more credibility with Eric being a TE than just his height and speed. Most notably, he played 7 different positions, including WR and TE. This tells me he has the athleticism and experience for the position. That's not to say it's guarantee, or the staff even wants to do this with him, just that a switch to the offensive side does seem feasible. When i read the article, one of the first things i thought about was imagining him and Will Henry lining up together. With one guy around 6-5, the other about 6-4... i don't know if it'll happen, but i'm certainly not opposed to the idea of it.

Imo, there's not much of a difference at the undergrad level from school to school. This includes places like Harvard and Yale. The only real advantage they give is on paper. I'm sure there are some exceptions here and there, but for the part, at the undergrad level, you'll get out of it what you put into it. Overall there's not much difference between NU, UM, ND, OU, UCLA, etc. The graduate level is where the real differences are.

My guess: 19 + only three full years of high school + lives in LA = a lot to do with hurricane katrina

Begining to wonder if it's more the dad that's having second thoughts or not 110% than it is Trevor. It almost seems like they are making the process harder than it needs to be though. He's already been to ND at least three times... what's he gonna learn on his fourth trip that he didn't find out in his first three? Similarly so with Michigan. I think they are looking at it wrong too. They seem to be acting like they are afraid of screwing up with his choice, when in reality they can't go wrong choosing between NU, UM and ND. Imo, the father is doing the exact opposite of what needs to be done here. He should be sitting his boy down and telling him, "look, you've been to all these places. There's no point in going back and looking at something you've already seen multiple times. It's time to make a decision. If you're happy with NU, great. If not, you need to say so now and get it over and done with." Instead he's emracing a course of action that is turning this into a circus. And that's mostly what i have a problem with.

If he's visiting ND, then a decommit is almost a guarantee. I've heard Weiss has some rule about not allowing kids committed to another program to visit his. Hearing a couple rumors going around. The first is that Trevor was concerned that we continued to offer other O line candidates after he committed. Wether the staff promised they wouldn't or Trevor just expected it is unknown, if this is indeed true. Another is a sort of read between lines from a Sean Callahan interview. He told Sean he hasn't decommitted or set up dates to visit ND or Mich, but that his father may have set them up and not told him yet. This is fueling some thought that the father is the one behind this, and for some reason or another trying to push Trevor to ND or UM.