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Tonight sucked, and the game was heading down a bad path before TA went out, but you are way off base. Riley has at least 4 more years left at Nebraska. Were starting to compete with Ohio state on the recruiting front.We are? Ohio State has the #1 ranked class while NU is in the 20s. Compare our recruiting class last now to the numbers under our former head coach. That is all.

Tonight sucked, and the game was heading down a bad path before TA went out, but you are way off base. Riley has at least 4 more years left at Nebraska. Were starting to compete with Ohio state on the recruiting front.

Want some cheese with that whine? Get over it,

Complaining about running up the score is the dumbest thing you can bitch about right now. Get a grip.

This article from back before the Big 12 voted not to expand describes a promotion/de-motion scenario like you are describing. Except the article's description is relegation from a two-tiered super-conference perspective, which makes a good story fantasy that no top-tier team would ever agree to simply from an economical standpoint. What about other sports? How do you manage the logistics? Isn't depriving other schools access to money based on their inferior status only going to ensure they cannot compete with those at the top? Won't blue blood schools worry about damaging their program due to down seasons? How would you justify having a top tier program with a top paid coach, and then not being able to afford those contracts due to loss in revenue from relegation? Honestly, I think it's interesting, but realistically, I can't see anyone with any sort of skin in the game letting it happen.

srsly? I answered your questions. Just so I'm clear, you don't want a college football champion determined by head to head competition? You'd rather have it decided by voting polls? First off, you should realize that your answers are merely opinions that others are free to share or disagree with. K, just making sure. Second, no. If I was in control, I would institute a 12 team playoff with 4 play-in games, and 4 byes for the top 4. I feel that pads enough room and gives significant advantage to those who have earned those top spots. With that said, you need to realize that the top team doesn't always win the football game, and that this doesn't solve that issue. Finally, you should realize and respect that football is not like EVERY OTHER FREAKING SPORT. There are less games, which means losses are more impactful. Additionally, EVERY OTHER FREAKING SPORT kind of agrees that their are issues with their playoff/post season. On top of that, money plays a big factor. Most schools athletic programs are heavily subsidized by the revenue of the football program. Creating a post-season where teams are valued based on their consistency in the regular season creates a lot of excitement and demand around every football game. The point I was initially trying to make, which may have not been obvious, is that you can't just change the post-season. You have to restructure everything. Conferences, scheduling, and the post-season would all need to be changed. In the end, what are we trying to accomplish? Do we value consistency throughout the season? Do we demand perfection during the regular season? Do we expect scheduling to play a big role? Is conference membership important? Simply adding more teams as contenders doesn't address any of these issues. I don't have the answers. This is an extremely complicated issue. There wouldn't be so much discussion around it if it was a simple fix.

Yes and playoff creep is something the NCAA was wary of between every step swearing the next step wouldn't come to pass. As for the bolded,I like to use the example of the NFL or the NCAA in Basketball. The playoff gets big enough you are determining who won the playoff instead of who the best team is. I know it doesn't sound like there is a difference but there is. The two examples I point to (they are getting somewhat old now) are the last time the New York Giants won the super bowl they went 9-7 in the regular season, lost 4 games in a row at one point, 5 out of 6 in a stretch and 5 out of their last 8 regular season games yet won the Super Bowl. Now they WON the playoffs but were they really the best team that season? My second example is in basketball, UCONN won it all in 2014 but only finished third in their own conference yet they won the big dance so does that mean they were truly the best team in the country that year? Or simply the hottest at the end of the season? My point is at some point it becomes less about finding out who the best team is and more about crowning a survivor. Where that line is exactly, I don't know. Edit: Thought of lots of other stuff.... in all fairness though that happens with a 4 team playoff too. Ohio State would have gotten blown out by Alabama mid-season in 2014-2015, but they were on a roll at the end so they won Yeah you could make the argument even pre-BCS. I could be wrong but I bet a lot of people would say the 83 team was better than the Miami team that upset them. So it again becomes a question like HuskerMav said, "In the end, what are we trying to accomplish? " It's another reason why I'm /meh about national championships. The trophies and the recruits it attracts are nice but I'd rather just win games. What do you mean "In the end, what are we trying to accomplish? " Huskers? Well win a championship, what else? Go to the Rose bowl?. Same for any other team. For the fans, knowing that a large enough group of teams was invited as to avoid leaving out a team deserving a shot at the finals, and most of all for fans to get some great entertainment. And no if you loose a game on the field, you were not better then that team, upset or not, because you did not loose on paper, on charts, on comparison to other teams, but on the field, and thats all that matters. First off, lose only has a one 'o' in it. Second, use some context clues, bud. The whole statement was about the NCAAF post-season. So obviously, the question is, what are we trying to accomplish by changing the post-season? Crowning the champion? Well, playoffs don't always do that. Finally, no, the best team does not always win the football game. Winning is all that matters, but sometimes the worser team wins. Example, my brother-in-law is a way better basketball player than I am. With that said, sometimes I beat him in 1-on-1. I don't become better than him just by beating him. He still beats me 9 times out of 10.

To be fair, I don't think they should base their decisions about whether a team is good or not. It should be mostly random.

A) Who knows how tough the schedule would be. Teams fall from grace, sometimes even abruptly, all the time. B) I agree C) Still another schedule where the historically solid programs are away. This year sucked for season ticket holders. Outside of Oregon game, it was hard to be excited for any of the home games. D) Time will tell.

He addresses that in the article. He might just be covering his ass(it's pretty easy to make excuses for things in hindsight), but he claims that the producer had influenced him to create controversy. I don't buy what he said about the recent game day incident. But who really cares?

So, in another thread, there was a question asked "If we win, this would be the biggest win since?"... Through that discussion, I realized that this team and the 2011 team are very comparable. Something that became apparent that year was that we had a weakness. A weakness that hasn't really been exposed yet this year, but I believe may still be true, and that is the dual threat quarterback. I may be wrong, but I believe that Ohio state marks the first real dual threat we see. A lot of Indiana's success against us came with Zander Diamont out on the field. I know that is slightly different, as I'm sure the coaching staff wasn't really prepared for that. I'll be interested to see how the Husker's fair against a mobile QB. Seems like our defense has been pretty solid, especially in the secondary, but hopefully containing the QB doesn't become an issue.

Picked to win, but not cover the spread got it thank you. If we could pull out the upset this would be the biggest husker win since? This win would be bigger than last year vs MSU, simply due to it being more meaningful for our season, however that was a big win. We beat a #9 MSU in 2011 that was a big game, followed by a #12 Penn State. Unfortunately we got blown out by Michigan that year. In 2010, we beat a #7 Missouri. I think otherwise, you have to go all the way back to 2001, beating a #2 Oklahoma. Those games you stated were big, but I honestly think you would have to go back to 01 just because with a win we are squarely in the national championship discussion. Those other wins were either earlier in the season or we had played ourselves out of title contention by that point. I doubt we win the CFP but a win Saturday would have us closer to a championship than we have been in 15 years I agree with you except for 2011. The MSU win was game 8 for us, with our only loss to that point against a #7 Wisconsin. We were in a pretty similar situation. However we sh#t the bed against Northwestern that year, then blown up by #20 Michigan(Denard Robinson at QB).

Tim Beck - OSU OC Tim Beck - NU OC circa 2010

Honestly, he always has. In terms of ESPN, he is by far the most respectable analyst. That has always been my opinion.

Picked to win, but not cover the spread got it thank you. If we could pull out the upset this would be the biggest husker win since? This win would be bigger than last year vs MSU, simply due to it being more meaningful for our season, however that was a big win. We beat a #9 MSU in 2011 that was a big game, followed by a #12 Penn State. Unfortunately we got blown out by Michigan that year. In 2010, we beat a #7 Missouri. I think otherwise, you have to go all the way back to 2001, beating a #2 Oklahoma.

The playoff system is an example where everything scales. Prior to the BCS, you didn't have championship games. You just had bowls and polling picked the National Champions at the end of the season. Then they introduced the BCS, which solved what most people wanted "We want to actually see the top two teams play". It introduced the issue, however, where we don't get to see the teams that missed the cut, through whatever reasons, even given the chance to compete. So the CFP is introduced. It has all the same issues that the BCS had, but now we have 4 teams instead of 2. So we introduce the 8 team playoff, and it doesn't solve any of the issues. So we introduce a 16 team playoff, and it doesn't solve any of the issues. So we intro... In the end, what are we trying to accomplish?

We struggled to quickly score points on one of the top defenses in the country? I'm shocked...

First thing you have to do is define success. I find it easier to make a list of goals and determine if they are still within reach: 1. Undefeated - Failed 2. Division Champions: On-track 3. Conference Champions: On-track 4. CFP: On-Track 5. Bowl Eligible: Clinched ... It's really the only way to measure success. Set goals, and determine if you've made those goals. As a fan, I just enjoy watching this husker team. It's been a few years since I've actually cared about the outcome of the game. It's fun watching your team dominate. It's fun watching your team play nail-biters against formidable opponents. We're not dominating yet, but at least we're playing tough teams well. That's all I can ask, as a fan. At the very least, Mike Riley has earned himself some respect, which is a huge step forward for him.

Seems like the line is moving even further. My buddy just gave me +16.5 at 110. I never bet on the Huskers. I have a hard time believing that tOSU wins by 2+ TDs, but you never know. I don't know how we stack up against a mobile QB.

Yeah. The fans of Riley applauded our players and coaches for a hard fought, tight game at Camp Randallone of the most hostile environments in college football. Plus, we got the added bonus of a couple of self-proclaimed Pelini lovers who came back from their absence during our unbeaten streak to do a victory dance in all the threads on HB. So there's that. The only thing I find odd is how many people will sift through any outcome to find even the most tenuous evidence that we are further along today than we were before. All while ignoring that this staff has struggled to win (and has lost) against some very poor competition.Did nobody inform you we started a new season?I'm referring to struggling against bad teams this season. Week in and week out, NU has looked ok against bad teams. I get that you can't win every game in blow out fashion and that good teams sometimes struggle. But, NU has not dominated a P5 game this season, particularly offensively. I don't think you understand or watch much football outside of the huskers. Every team, every year, struggles with bad teams. Not every week, though. This team is talented enough that if they are preparing properly, they should go out and smoke at least two teams left on their schedule. I would think that would be Maryland and Minnesota, but I also think Iowa should be stomped by this Husker team. Rather than type out a long, thought out post about how we don't have the most phenominal athletes on this team, I'd rather just suggest that you go cheer for Alabama. They obviously have the team and talent that you loathe so much. Can someone decipher what your post is meant to mean? I'm suggesting that you become an Alabama fan. I'm sorry that was so cryptic. Why would I do that? Apparently unlike you, I like and am impressed by the athletes we have on our team. Which was the point of my comment. Your post was a trap, so instead of talking about our athletes, I made a suggestion.

Yeah. The fans of Riley applauded our players and coaches for a hard fought, tight game at Camp Randallone of the most hostile environments in college football. Plus, we got the added bonus of a couple of self-proclaimed Pelini lovers who came back from their absence during our unbeaten streak to do a victory dance in all the threads on HB. So there's that. The only thing I find odd is how many people will sift through any outcome to find even the most tenuous evidence that we are further along today than we were before. All while ignoring that this staff has struggled to win (and has lost) against some very poor competition.Did nobody inform you we started a new season?I'm referring to struggling against bad teams this season. Week in and week out, NU has looked ok against bad teams. I get that you can't win every game in blow out fashion and that good teams sometimes struggle. But, NU has not dominated a P5 game this season, particularly offensively. I don't think you understand or watch much football outside of the huskers. Every team, every year, struggles with bad teams. Not every week, though. This team is talented enough that if they are preparing properly, they should go out and smoke at least two teams left on their schedule. I would think that would be Maryland and Minnesota, but I also think Iowa should be stomped by this Husker team. Rather than type out a long, thought out post about how we don't have the most phenominal athletes on this team, I'd rather just suggest that you go cheer for Alabama. They obviously have the team and talent that you loathe so much. Can someone decipher what your post is meant to mean? I'm suggesting that you become an Alabama fan. I'm sorry that was so cryptic.

Yeah. The fans of Riley applauded our players and coaches for a hard fought, tight game at Camp Randallone of the most hostile environments in college football. Plus, we got the added bonus of a couple of self-proclaimed Pelini lovers who came back from their absence during our unbeaten streak to do a victory dance in all the threads on HB. So there's that. The only thing I find odd is how many people will sift through any outcome to find even the most tenuous evidence that we are further along today than we were before. All while ignoring that this staff has struggled to win (and has lost) against some very poor competition. Did nobody inform you we started a new season? I'm referring to struggling against bad teams this season. Week in and week out, NU has looked ok against bad teams. I get that you can't win every game in blow out fashion and that good teams sometimes struggle. But, NU has not dominated a P5 game this season, particularly offensively. I don't think you understand or watch much football outside of the huskers. Every team, every year, struggles with bad teams. Not every week, though. This team is talented enough that if they are preparing properly, they should go out and smoke at least two teams left on their schedule. I would think that would be Maryland and Minnesota, but I also think Iowa should be stomped by this Husker team. Rather than type out a long, thought out post about how we don't have the most phenominal athletes on this team, I'd rather just suggest that you go cheer for Alabama. They obviously have the team and talent that you loathe so much.

Yeah. The fans of Riley applauded our players and coaches for a hard fought, tight game at Camp Randallone of the most hostile environments in college football. Plus, we got the added bonus of a couple of self-proclaimed Pelini lovers who came back from their absence during our unbeaten streak to do a victory dance in all the threads on HB. So there's that. The only thing I find odd is how many people will sift through any outcome to find even the most tenuous evidence that we are further along today than we were before. All while ignoring that this staff has struggled to win (and has lost) against some very poor competition. Did nobody inform you we started a new season? I'm referring to struggling against bad teams this season. Week in and week out, NU has looked ok against bad teams. I get that you can't win every game in blow out fashion and that good teams sometimes struggle. But, NU has not dominated a P5 game this season, particularly offensively. I don't think you understand or watch much football outside of the huskers. Every team, every year, struggles with bad teams.

You're a f'ing fan. Get over it. All you do every week is sit on your ass and watch a football game.