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At the moment I'm a few blocks away from Memorial Stadium. Home is about five miles from campus.

Did anyone else notice we don't play our final game the Friday after Thanksgiving? Thanksgiving in 2011 is 11/24. We play Iowa on 11/26. That I do not like.

Finally the right answer! I agree. Reality is this... when we were always winning the fans could be generous and magnanimous and seek after winning the right way and conduct and character mattered. The culture has changed after a decade of not winning (at least not winning like we used to). This is reflected here on the board as so many posters could care less whether our coach is classy or crass, a good role model or not, or a fine representative or not --- just so long as he wins. This is so apparent and is as well very disconcerting. I have followed NU football since I graduated 20+ years ago and the past 10 years or so have seen a huge degradation is fan expectations regarding NU being a clean, classy program that represents NU and Nebraska well. What has replaced the sense of "we want NU classy" is an attitude of "we want to win no matter what." It seems that those who basically say that Bo is fine (no matter how poorly he represents NU) so long as he wins is growing. This could be simply a poor sampling size with conclusions drawn from largely those who post on this board --- which may not be representative of the whole. But... if this board is any indication, we have a huge culture shift away from what was to what is now a "win... and we don't care how" mindset. Finally, I counter those who posit that this thread is lame by saying that this thread is vital --- the integrity of Nebraska, of NU and the extent that Bo represents (or does not) represent that integrity is more critical than wins or losses. Sure ... you can argue that the coach should not be so much a statesman and representative of NU or the state --- and that is probably right --- it is odd that a football coach is so associated with the representation of an entire state --- but it is what it is --- reality is that the NU coach is an ambassador, by definition. That coach can embrace this or ignore the responsibility. Bo seems to not embrace this at all. He is immature, rash, and pretty crass. I think Bo is a great coach from the X's and O's viewpoint --- and that he develops and uses his players well --- and that he will (and largely has) gotten us on track competitively --- but that he is not a good ambassador of NU or of Nebraskans in general (being an ambassador is, like it or not, what the NU football coach by definition is). In closing, especially for the younger NU fans, consider that character counts --- not just winning. This revisionist history people want to lay claim to of some halcyonic era when the Huskers were perfect gentlemen, coached by perfect gentlemen, spoke and acted like perfect gentlemen at all times simply didn't exist. It didn't exist at Nebraska, and it didn't exist anywhere else. Devaney swore at his players and the refs, his assistant coaches swore at him, the players and the refs, and his players swore up and down the field. Osborne didn't drop f-bombs but he was as passionate as they come, he chewed out players on the sidelines and he was in the ears of the refs hollering in most every close game we played. And you apparently have no idea what guys like Milt Tenopir, Charlie McBride and the rest were like at all, and seem to want to paint this era as "the good old days," a time when we won "the right way" and the fans were always oh-so-classy. It's all hogwash. Nebraska has had its share of classless fans - always has and always will. We're real people in this state, not some clone army of Stepford Wives. We yell, we scream, we curse - and that's just while driving. Sure, for the most part we're a genteel bunch on game days, and we treat our opponents with more respect than is common, but if you think ne'er a discouraging word was uttered at Memorial Stadium during the previous four coach's tenures, you'd better think again. And this concept that now, in the past ten years, we've become some "win at all costs" fan base - utter hogwash. We aren't, we weren't, and we're not going there at all. We're tolerant of our crazy coaches because they win, sure, and we're intolerant of crazy coaches who don't win, sure, but all in all we're still the same fans we've always been - polite and cranky, honorable and dishonorable, all wrapped up into one. Maybe you're noticing stuff like this because of the Internet, whose anonymity breeds boorish behavior, and there's probably some truth to some of what you're saying, but it's not as if we've sold our collective souls to win, win, win. Of course we want to win. Of course we expect to win. Of course we get angsty when we don't win. We're human. And so are you.

The old "my daughter broke my period key" excuse. If I've seen it once, I've seen it a thousand times.

I really, really don't think it's that way. It's not like the Big 12 situation at all. The Big 10 is a group of like-minded schools. What was the quote, something like they don't even have votes at the meetings, they just discuss and come to an agreement? Well why do you see OSU & Michigan everytime you hear about the Big Ten? Just like why do you see/hear UNC when someone speaks of the ACC or USC when someone speaks of the PAC 10???? Make them alphabetical order or something, you don't always have to feature the same teams. Edit: Not trying to start anything by any means... From whom are you seeing this? From the press, from the fans, or from the Big 10 brass? If it's from the Big 10 brass, are they responding to questions from the public and/or the press?

I really, really don't think it's that way. It's not like the Big 12 situation at all. The Big 10 is a group of like-minded schools. What was the quote, something like they don't even have votes at the meetings, they just discuss and come to an agreement?

You didn't even care about this rivalry until you got accepted to OSU within the past year, so don't bother lecturing us on what we do or don't "get." I think about half the people you're currently talking to were watching the Michigan/OSU game before you were born. It's great that you're immersing yourself in the culture of your school, but let's not go crazy here. You have less knowledge of the importance of this rivalry than a lot of folks.

You leave Kordell alone! Kordell Stewart is my all-time favorite Buff. Every year Kordell would come into the game talking about how they were going to beat the Huskers, and every year he would crumble like a house of cards once the Blackshirts got after him. I do so very much miss Kordell. I wish I had a video of all of his highlights against the Huskers, like the time he threw three picks on 8/28 passing in 1993, or when he only managed one TD in 1994, or when he came in for mop-up duty for the battered and bruised Detmer in the 1992 Nightmare in Nebraska game.

Yes. And I hope he's there at least one more year. :devil

I'm not concerned about Minnesota or Northwestern in the least. NW is never going to be a frequent threat to us, and Minnesota is not even close to a team I'd call "on the up and up."

Then you must have hated the last 40 years of Husker football. Callahan, Solich, Osborne and Devaney constantly chewed out the refs - all of 'em. Callahan, Solich and Devaney dropped F-bombs out there, constantly. Osborne would drop a "dadgum" on the sidelines once in a while, but it was rare. Callahan, Solich, Osborne and Devaney all would get in the face of a player messing up. Osborne threw several "temper tantrums" a year. Devaney was pretty much always in a temper tantrum. Solich and Callahan threw temper tantrums on occasion. Basically you're saying you don't like the kind of behavior that about 97% of all college football coaches show.

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Eric Martin and LaVonte David.

Without listening to the show, here's my recap: Rome welcomed Bo to the show, told him how much he respects Bo and the work he's doing there, and that it's great having him on. Rome asked Bo how balled up he was for the new season, and Bo said he was pretty excited, his players have been working hard, and he sees some good things out there. Rome asked about the QB issue, because it's a hot issue right now, and Bo said they're still making evaluations and they'll let everyone know when the time is right. Bo said he's seen some good things from all the guys, but there are things they all have to clean up/work on/etc. Rome mentioned the looming Texas game and Bo brushed it off, saying that's for the press to worry about, that right now he's focusing his team on the task at hand, and that stuff will all play itself out eventually. Rome brought up the :01 from the CCG and Bo said it affected him at the time but he's over it. Bo probably said something respectful about Mack Brown. Rome asked about the defense, if it would be as good as last year without Big Suh, and Bo talked about his three-year plan and how he sees a lot of things coming together. Finally, Rome wished Bo good luck on the season and made positive comments about Nebraska's chances this year, and how great it was that they're moving to the Big 10 next year. Long-distance man-hugs, and that was it. Bo signed off, Rome told everyone how Bo is a class act, and said "clones" about 87 times.

I suppose you could ask for a refund.

Very unfortunate. Very reminiscent of the Lawrence Phillip issue. Yep. I hate to see any program go through stuff like this.

It's not to be taken seriously. But if people really wanted it gone, we could consider it.

I have one at home, but I'm pretty sure it's not from Gate 1. Is Gate 1 important?

If this post gets 50 +1s I'll lock the thread. Fair enough? EDIT: OK - joke's over. Please stop giving me +1s.

Sewell owned the shop, but Malnati was the cook who made the pizza. Maybe SkerChicago can weigh in on this one, but all my family is from Chicago and I've been there probably 100 times. Pretty much everyone thinks Rudy Malnati invented the deep dish pizza.

how?

if your were a little more aware, you would know that the topic starter is new to the game of american football and is looking for a team to call his own. cut him some slack...we're trying to make a new husker fan here, not run him off. Actually, this one's on me. I merged threads and (apparently) merged the wrong ones. I intended to merge a thread starting with np_husker's post and the subsequent five posts into the QB thread. It seems I got it wrong. EDIT - to fix the problem, I deleted the errant posts. Carry on.

Absolutely.

How about YOU knock it off!!!!! How about we don't make it personal.

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