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B)--> QUOTE(Husker B @ Nov 12 2008, 11:37 AM) 378063[/snapback] You're right caveman! Sincerely, the guy who posted above you Yeah you beat me to it, but great minds think alike!!!!

Anyone remember Thunder Collins? THAT was a recruiting bust.

If you think this is ridiculous then I think you missed the point. Mitch Sherman is right about the stadium being full the ENTIRE game since well before you were born.

Maybe I guess. I am certaintly not buying the Blackshirt issue.

Well that means CU will have some motivation to beat NU next game. Needing one win to get to 6-6, NU should be at 7-4 going in.

I agree with you, but we all need to remember to not get unrealistic expectations again because that just brings down the whole damn fanbase when all of us get like that. I don't think we have to worry about this with Bo as our coach though because he wants and expects the best. He wants those Big XII titles and NC trophies because it makes his job that much easier as far as recruiting goes. I agree BRI. the prospect of us possibly winning out and going 9-3 both excites me and scares me. I hope people dont get unrealistic expectations Well, going 9-3 is kind of impossible because we already have 4 losses. I stand by that my assertion of a husker team with anywhere from 1-4 losses contingent upon quarterback play next year is quite reasonable. As a side note, I grow weary of predicting 4 and 5 loss seasons, which I (and a lot of other people) have been doing for 6 years now. There is nothing wrong with getting excited for next year and I think I have sufficiently tempered my enthusiasm. I think Nebraska will be back next year. Not national championship back, but back to the point where we will be in the top 25 every week. Next year we gain relevance again. thanks... I meant 4. the 9 win part is what I am concerned with. i think some fans will look at that and think the next logical step is a big 12 title... I dont think we are going to be at that point by next year Just curious as to what you predicted this year? I saw a whole lot of 7-5 predictions on this board, also quite a few at 6-6. 8-4, and maybe 9-4, is a real possibility. Could you saw Bo overachieved by going 9-4 this year? He did after all take over a team with one of the worst defenses in the country the previous year. Would that mean that he underachieves next year by going 7-5? Should we expect a drop down to 5-7 like we did last year? I don't think it is unfair to think this team could at least win 8-9 games in the regular season next year. The level of talent is not taking a dive down, in fact it should be better overall. Look how many players Bo has redshirting, the team may be a bit younger but definately more talented. You will not see 5-6 walkons contributing like this year. The D-Fence WILL be much improved next year, of that I have NO doubt.

If the standard for a blackshirt were playing up to the level of a 94-97 defense, we probably wouldn't have blackshirts most years. The goal HAS to be obtainable or it actually will become a joke. thank you. some people seem to think that we used to be a top 5 defenses every year. I am really getting tired of this. Thank you BO! Let's move on!

So you're saying it was creatine? or something in his protein shakes? Or was he smoking saliva? (Tonight's Dr. Phil subject) Sorry..Not to make light of the subject, I hope Cody is able to finish out on the team and wish him luck in his future. He was one of the bright spots on the team this year. If this guy is truthful, my original reason seems to have traction. Steroids. I doubt it is steroids, but possibly a supplement or stimulant with a banned ingredient. Who knows, I hope Cody gets everything worked out and makes it back on the field. Last I checked Steriods ARE a NCAA worthy violation. So if the poster is to be believed that this incident is "Not NCAA, and not Law Enforcement worthy," then I don't think this is the reason.

OK, you convinced me. Helu runs for 200 and 4 TDs. Ganz throws for 300 and comes out in the 4th quarter. Witt fumbles a snap. And in a surprise move, Bo puts Suh in at QB. The big man runs the option and takes it to the house after all the defenders fall over themselves getting out of the way!!!!!! Next year's offense is born.

man I love the AC/DC channel on Sirius!

Alright Zebop, you've run your mouth enough. You beat KU by 10 then suddenly you're calling for wins against KU next year? Keep in mind that you lose your QB and the game next year is in Lawrence. We return our entire offense, and lose our crappy linebackers. We'll see how you fair in Lawrence. As for my prediction, Michael, yes, I admit I predicted a 10-2 season. I didn't expect Texas Tech to go GANGBUSTERS and start blowing the doors off their opponents. Neither did I expect a freshman kicker to beat us with 2 seconds left in USF. Nor did I ever think a first year coach of Nebraska would be able to beat us after we smoked you guys last year. I also didn't expect Texas to somehow IMPROVE after losing Jamal Charles and Limas Sweed, and a ton of players on defense!! I'm still shocked how that happend. Now we have to play Texas and Missouri back to back. So yes, 6-6 is a strong possibility. Just be glad your beloved Huskers don't have to play the schedule my Hawks have played. You saw how you did in Norman (Game over after a quarter). I would stop flapping my gums if I were you cause there is still a lot of football left and if you lose to KSuck how stupid will ya'll look? Not really into this whole arguement, but I really don't get this one. Haven't you looked at the schedules for both teams lately? Below are the schedules for both teams. The current W-L record for each opponent is on the very right. Schedules look very similar to me. -Kansas 8/30 Florida International W (4-5) 9/06 Louisiana Tech W (5-4) 9/12 @ South Florida L (6-3) 9/20 Sam Houston State W (4-4) 10/04 @ Iowa StateW (2-8) 10/11 Colorado W (5-5) 10/18 @ Oklahoma L (9-1) 10/25 Texas Tech L (10-0) 11/01 Kansas State W (4-6) 11/08 @ Nebraska L (6-4) 11/15 Texas (9-1) 11/29 Missouri (8-2) ---Overall Opponent Win/Loss record YTD: 72-43, 62.6 win % -Nebraska 8/30 Western Michigan W (8-2) 9/06 San Jose State W (6-4) 9/13 New Mexico State W (3-6) 9/27 Virginia Tech L (6-3) 10/04 Missouri L (8-2) 10/11 @ Texas Tech L (10-0) 10/18 @ Iowa State W (2-8) 10/25 Baylor W (3-7) 11/01 @ Oklahoma L (9-1) 11/08 Kansas W (6-4) 11/15 @ Kansas State (4-6) 11/28 Colorado (5-5) ---Overall Opponent Win/Loss record YTD: 70-48, 59.3 win % Yeah....real similar....where is Nebraska's trip to South Florida? Your game against V-Tech was in Nebraska. Where is your game against Texas? Oh, that's right. You played Baylor. Please! Plus you had Missouri at home. We have to play those punks on a neutral field. I will give you that your conference schedule is tougher simply because of the one team difference, BU vs. UT. However the non-conference schedules are not even close. Overall W-L comparison shows this: KU (19-16, 54.3 win %) vs. NU (23-15, 60.5%). For NU: WMU is 8-2 and getting votes in the poles, VT is 6-3 and just knocked off a ranked team, heck even SJS is 6-4. For KU their signature loss, South Florida, is decent, but 3 losses in their last 4, making them 1-3 in the horrible Big East, shows that they aren't elite as they were made out to be. The much better non-conference schedule makes up for one big difference in the conference IMO, but hey opinions vary!

Alright Zebop, you've run your mouth enough. You beat KU by 10 then suddenly you're calling for wins against KU next year? Keep in mind that you lose your QB and the game next year is in Lawrence. We return our entire offense, and lose our crappy linebackers. We'll see how you fair in Lawrence. As for my prediction, Michael, yes, I admit I predicted a 10-2 season. I didn't expect Texas Tech to go GANGBUSTERS and start blowing the doors off their opponents. Neither did I expect a freshman kicker to beat us with 2 seconds left in USF. Nor did I ever think a first year coach of Nebraska would be able to beat us after we smoked you guys last year. I also didn't expect Texas to somehow IMPROVE after losing Jamal Charles and Limas Sweed, and a ton of players on defense!! I'm still shocked how that happend. Now we have to play Texas and Missouri back to back. So yes, 6-6 is a strong possibility. Just be glad your beloved Huskers don't have to play the schedule my Hawks have played. You saw how you did in Norman (Game over after a quarter). I would stop flapping my gums if I were you cause there is still a lot of football left and if you lose to KSuck how stupid will ya'll look? Not really into this whole arguement, but I really don't get this one. Haven't you looked at the schedules for both teams lately? Below are the schedules for both teams. The current W-L record for each opponent is on the very right. Schedules look very similar to me. -Kansas 8/30 Florida International W (4-5) 9/06 Louisiana Tech W (5-4) 9/12 @ South Florida L (6-3) 9/20 Sam Houston State W (4-4) 10/04 @ Iowa StateW (2-8) 10/11 Colorado W (5-5) 10/18 @ Oklahoma L (9-1) 10/25 Texas Tech L (10-0) 11/01 Kansas State W (4-6) 11/08 @ Nebraska L (6-4) 11/15 Texas (9-1) 11/29 Missouri (8-2) ---Overall Opponent Win/Loss record YTD: 72-43, 62.6 win % -Nebraska 8/30 Western Michigan W (8-2) 9/06 San Jose State W (6-4) 9/13 New Mexico State W (3-6) 9/27 Virginia Tech L (6-3) 10/04 Missouri L (8-2) 10/11 @ Texas Tech L (10-0) 10/18 @ Iowa State W (2-8) 10/25 Baylor W (3-7) 11/01 @ Oklahoma L (9-1) 11/08 Kansas W (6-4) 11/15 @ Kansas State (4-6) 11/28 Colorado (5-5) ---Overall Opponent Win/Loss record YTD: 70-48, 59.3 win %

Definately need a bar with beer on tap. Ensure to keep plenty of a "Red" ale on tap!!!!

It obviously has to be a program that wants to move to the Big XII, Iowa or Illinois don't fit that mold. The Big X/Little XI, is a cushy conference to be in. National conference in exposure, a lot of revenue, no conference title game to worry about, etc. A Texas school or maybe someone like BYU might be interested.

Why is it that NE with a new unproven QB will at worse will lose 3-4 games. But this whole thread is built upon what other teams are losing thus allowing NE to do well. This includes mentioning that K-State, Oklahoma, MU and TT will all lose their best players, allowing NE to earn wins. IF by your reasoning NU can not only compete, but flurish why cant MU, Oklahoma & TT? I would argue that those 3 teams, even with the loss of current players still have more offensive talent than Nebraska. Including a number of young players that all ready see lots of PT. Unlike Nebraska who is banking on 'potential'. I understand this is a nebraska board, but I also enjoy the football talk. I look at all teams with an unbiased approach. I know my team is losing alot of players at the end of the season. I also know that they have a ton of young talent that has gotten alot of time this year. What I dont know is how it will gel and work next year. But I will tell you this. MU clearly had more talent than NE this year. I dont expect that to change in one year. I also know that OU is head and shoulders above MU right now, that wont change in one year either. You all should know that OU is a world above you, and unrealistic expictations only lead to disappointment. I WANT NU to do well, I really do. (as long as you finish second to MU ) But lets not jump the gun. You are right were I thought you would be this year ( I said 7-5, 8-4 if you beat VT or KU). Good enough to beat teams you should ( you haven't gotten bit in the a** by a lowly team this year) but not able to really beat the top teams. I guess what I'm saying is you may very well make the 'jump', but you my finish 3rd or 4th in the north. WHO KNOWS AT THIS POINT. Any way The original poster did put a lot of faith in what other teams are losing, and if you read the majority of the responses everyone is thinking along the same path you are. Good teams don't rebuild, they reload. Fans of NU more than anyone should know this. OU and TT are not going away just because QB's go pro. MU has a lot of young talent, IMO next year will tell us just how good of a job Pinkle has really done more than anything he has done up to this point. The exception to this is KSU, if Freeman does go pro and the way recruiting went for them I would agree that they drop down. I think people writing NU off as a not much better than this year are mistaken though. NU will be better, obviously the QB will determine how far they will go. The D-Line should be down right nasty next year. The LB's will be MUCH faster and talented, though young. The DB's can only get better, again we will have more talent and less Walk On's contributing. O-Line will be good again, 3 returning starters plus Ricky Henry makes for a good start. They also play 8-10 guys a game so there is a lot of experience there. Receivers will be as good, and maybe better. RB will be good as Roy Helu should be the man. Overall NU will be better and should start getting some wins over ranked teams. QB play will determine just how many wins as teams load up to stop what should be a good running game and dare NU to beat them in the air.

The spread was even basically for KU, a ten point win. Spreads in college are not as good of an indicator as they are in the pros.

Plus, I hear he puts his pants on both legs at the same time.

Wow I guess you are looking forward to BBall season already?

mwj98 you are preaching to the choir my man. I have been saying the same thing every time this thread starts, which is several times a week lately. I can't believe how people take a period of dominance lasting 8 to 10 years tops out of 40+ and make a new standard for a tradition. I distinctly remember giving up 30+ in the bowl games to Miami, doesn't anyone really remember why the win in '95 over Miami was so great? Yes the NC and all that was nice, but it was a revenge win.

I think there is something to be said for the idea that you can't wait until they have one perfect game till you give them out. You might not ever give them out if that's the case. I think it's too late this season. There probably shouldn't be any Blackshirts in '08. If that happens then I think you loose the team's interest in them. It may have happened already. Blackshirts as a tradition will not exist since the "tradition" would be broken.

Assume you mean Chase Coffman at MU, if he comes to NU I sure hope he is that good!

And even if the committee isn't, PSU ought to be considering they'd end up facing some beast from the Big 12 or the SEC... I don't get that logic, you would rather not go to a game because you will play a very tough team? You don't want a shot at a NC because you will have a tough time pulling it out? Humor - H U M O R. Given the "sucess" of the Big 10 in national title games of late... Got ya now, sorry.

And even if the committee isn't, PSU ought to be considering they'd end up facing some beast from the Big 12 or the SEC... I don't get that logic, you would rather not go to a game because you will play a very tough team? You don't want a shot at a NC because you will have a tough time pulling it out?

What they are paying for is their education. It is well known that this football program supports itself, and other sports programs that don't support themselves. As far as "needing" the students to buy tickets and attend the games, this is one program that probably could get by without selling a single ticket to a student and still sell out. If a student is going to buy his ticket, I think that what everyone is getting at is that he should at least either attend the game, or sell/give it to someone that will attend the game, therefore supporting HIS university. While on a basic level of dollars and cents you are 100% correct, Michael's point reaches beyond just who funds the program. Quite simply without the need to educate the students in NE, a football team would not exist. The students are the reason UNL exists and hence the football team. If the football team is a form of university representation to others outside the local supporters, you would think that the students would take an active roll in supporting them. Say it ain't so...!!!! I deserved that, but I figured since you made the leap to imply the football team didn't need the students I would go back to the basic level to dispute that. Anytime I get into a discussion about season tickets and the list to get them it always comes down to economics... So, fair is fair, when it comes down to who actually fills the stadium, the university could take the stance that they would go for selling the tickets in the student section (since the students won't use them anyway) for a higher dollar, and still sell out the stadium. All the university would be doing is facilitating the football programs need for players...otherwise it would strictly be a business thing. The basic fact is that they know they could sell out the stadium and not have a single student in the stands. So, YOU students listen up...if you are going to abuse the fact that you get to buy those tickets in front of the average Joe the Plumber and then not use them, don't get all pissy when the university decides to move the students up higher in the stands, or even cut the number of student seats that there are. If you aren't going to fill those seats, they may just take seats away from your allotment and sell them at higher rate or to someone that is willing to donate money to the university. I don't necessarily disagree with your sentiments either. In fact above I mentioned that since the Football team is a direct representation of the University, I would hope the students would take a heated interest in going and supporting the team. I agree it is a bit shameful for students not to support their team. I don't think the University would ever stoop that low. The students being at the games is afterall a representation of what College Football is all about.