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I didn't mean to offend anyone, and I am sorry if I did........ but, I am entitled to my opinion...I believe that JP didn't do things right, and do not think that he has the right to consistantly attack the program.... I apologize if anyone is offended...... I believe what I believe..... some of you can keep making "excuses" for him, and why it is okay for some of his behavior.....you are entitled to this belief also.... I can see this topic is going to go no where....so I will leave it alone....and agian apologize to those I apparently offended.... Not that I have too..... I don't claim to know any more than anyone else...... but to answer to some of you tuff pc guys.....yes, I played, coached and am a lot closer to the NU program than most.... I knew, did-know, roomed with players, and if you think that roids didn't happen.....enjoy your dream world. Hukserforever....ignorant..... let's talk X's and O's anytime......set up a meeting and well visit about football, not "opinions".

Oldman.......nope, I don't live my life perfectly, nor do I spend my time looking for reasons' to criticize everyone else... JP's addiction was self-inflicted......so don't play that card....... I am a coach who is around athletes daily who work hard, and do things right......... Hey, Oldman.....look at some of your posts...... I am sure that you have coached a lot of football games perfectly..... or do you just expect everyone else too?

Link is the Rome show.....listen to sports talk radio..... I don't need to dicredit anyone......JP admits that he took a huge amount of drugs.... hell, Matt Davidson even referred to instances of "roid rage" during practices during a pre-game interview....... My other link would be "take a friggin' look at the guy".....you don't go from 295 pounds of pure muscle, to 180 pound , skinny-faced guy by giving up "pain meds"..... How nieve are some of you guys....

NOt trying to start anything..... I see Red people.....you say that you can't put everything on the coach.... you may want to spread the word on this board.....because most are doing a nice job of doing that to BC....

Not defending BC or trying to say he shouldn't be gone, but people refer to his "high -risk" play calling.... Not so..... both of Ganz' passes were under 10 yards and he made horrible throws.... they were not high-risk at all......that is "ball control" that was working the last 2 1/2 games...... The QB makes a bad play, and the coach shoulder's the blame...... I would have like to see a little more of our version of the "read-option".....but his play calling was not "high-risk".....

Maybe these kids aren't as good as JP was because they aren't taking 25 + pills a day.....his drug use adn abuse is well documented.....especially by Jim Rome......JP didn't necessarily pour his heart and soul, he poured performance enhancing drugs and more into his body...... don't give me the crap about how he knows everything.... I was a huge, huge JP supporter until the truth came out....if you can't do it the right way, suck it up..... and if you did it the WRONG WAY JP, keep your criticisms to yourself......

I am NOT CALLING TO KEEP BC.......but, do you think that he really wants to stay and "learn" another system for 1 year, and risk injury.... He flourished in this system with the short passing game....a new coach with a running philosophy will probably only hurt his stock..... remember, it takes 4 years to get the kids to run "your" system....this line can't "Run" block very well...... his stock drops if he doesn't catch as many passes next year....... He can't be a "Feature" RB in the NFL who pounds the ball 20-25 times.. If BC is gone, my bet is Lucky is gone..

I truly hope that Lucky decides to stay for his senior season...... he is the first 1000 - 1000 yard RB ever at NU..... he has gotten better and better.....he is a tremendous threat as a rec. out of the backfield and he pass blocks fairly well (improving weekly)...... He is also starting to run harder.... I am assuming that if there is a change in the staff (almost certain), that he will leave..... He will get drafted fairly high because of the traits mentioned above..... He will be a Kevin Faulk type of player... Please consider coming back and helping this team get back on track....... This team needs your leadership...

Travis... I don't disagree with much of what you said...... If people are going to give Joe credit for his great play....then they better take of the "I hate BC" glasses and pin some of the blame on Joe.... He made poor throws the entire 2nd half...... I don't want to sound like Joe is the reason we lost, because he isn't, but he didn't do much the 2nd half..... We still need big time WR....more of the Mo type..... I lvoe the heart of Swift and company...but you have to catch balls.... This team collapsed and that will get pinned on BC (as it probably should as the HC), but when the kids don't throw well, or catch well it is a complet TEAM MELT DOWN.... I still have faith in Joe to compete for the #1 job next year regardless of the coach.....He has done a LOT MORE POSITIVE than negative... it is just too bad for him, that his negative happened at the wrong time.....

I would "trust TO" and give him the "respect he deserves".......the same thing people suggested to me, many times during the past few weeks, whenever I brought up the importance of this decision..... we will have to see who can follow their own advice.... I don't think it's going to come to that though.... I am pretty sure that BC's era is over....

The same people who for some reason aren't interested are probably the same fans who said "who" when Urban Meyer's name was mentioned last time we looked for a coach..... the fans who really don't get a close look at what a coach does...they only go by name and school recognition..... Paul Meyer can f'n coach....flat out.....

Thank you Mo........ good luck at the next level....... You will be misssed.

If there is going to be a change, this is my guy !!! Has been all along....... If not BC (done deal), then bring on Paul Johnson and hire a great D-staff....

Huskertrucker....are you lost....... We are not talking about the "past" here.....we are talking QB's withing the West Coast offense..... which would include Daily, Taylor, Keller, Ganz....... what in the heck are you talking about.. Do you honestly think I don't realize how many GREAT qb's we have had during the days past....OMG..... This topic is WCO....not about the past great qb's in the option offense I am stating that if you let a pro-tpe qb spend time in this system, he would flourish big time.....almost exactly what Taylor and Keller have said, and they would probably know more than us....

Once again, I am saying the same thing over and over..... What would a "bue-chip" QB and top-notch WR be able to do in this offense if they had the time to learn.... that means redshirt, backup/reserve role as a RSFR, and after studying and learning for those 2 seasons, explode onto the scene for 2-3 years...... We have had very, very average athletes at QB and one actually was Big 12 POY....... Ganz is an average "athlete" who knows this system, so he does well "within this system"..... Blast BC is you chose for his statement....which, yes, should have been stated with much more class towards Ganz, but the whole system philosophy is the absolute truth and if you argue that, you just have a "closed-mind" toward BC.. This offense can and does work...... every team can implode once/twice during a season and not play well at all....called "sports".... Now, don't blast me.... I am not saying keep BC, I am just stating opinions concerning the offense....

Meeting will be Saturday .....we all know that, but IMO opinion (and Damon Benning's).... TO has too much respect for Nu basketball and realizes the NU-Creighton match-up and will not announce anything until late Sunday/Monday... I don't have a clue, but I am guessing we will not know anything on Saturday...... The local media is also saying that the UNO play-off game deserves some respect, and that a press-conference concerning NU would not be a good idea on Sat..... Just rumors from media....

I am going to take "both" sides of the fence with this one.... I almost started a topic on this..... I have been on the fence for a long time here..... Reasons to support BC: 1. I truly think Pud was the main reason people did not want to fully accept BC...they were mad at Pud 2. Most of his players support him....especially after his "initial"year....and his initial year was a change and we all know how "humans" accept change. 3. He has done great charity work....raising thousands and thousands of $$ for breast cancer. 4. In year 2, he got NU back on tract a little and beat Michigan in Alamo...and order restored rang throughout husker nation.... His team "played" for him... 5. In year 3, he won the North, and took a juco qb to the Big 12 player of the year....played on New Years Day.....1st time in awhile.....Once agian.....I don't think playing on Jan. 1 is a failure 6. He still hasn't had a "great" QB in his system for any length at all..both he recruited flamed out. What would a "stud" do after a red-shirt year and a year of playing time to get the system down. * don't give me the garbage about "play-book"..... If Taylor can learn it in 2 years....c'mon.. 7. In regards to this year.....STRUGGLED big time.....but if I remember this summer's post correctly, many on this board were very, very worried about the schedule.....read yesterday in Omaha paper that NU's strength of schedule is #5 in the country.... We knew the possibilities.. - Beat Wake on the road with "guts" - Lost to then #1 and perennial power USC.....got caught up in hype - Lost to #2 KU on the road and #4 MU on the road - Lost to #9 Texas on the road , and actually had a great chance to win - Absolutely blew "rival" KSU out of the water... 8. Unless you get lucky, with a Stoops, or have a hot-bed like Florida with Meyer..... all the experts think a coach deserves 4-5 years to get program going.... We did win the North and 2 bowl games, with a chance at a 3rd... during this "rebuilding" 4-5 period..... short of a NC, I am not real sure what could have been expected. Now to the OHTER SIDE OF MY FENCE Reason to be anti-BC 1. I feel as if he had NO clue about Nebraska when he got here, and is extrememly arrogant. 2. Does not seem to respect TO at all...... I think BC even believes that he is "better" than TO 3. Has led NU to worst losses in history TT and KU.... 4. Has not had the guts to fire staff, when obviously it was well warranted. 5. IMO, doesn't use his young talent wisely.....Paul, Culbert, Thenarse.....burned red-shirts for nothing 6. Alienated Husker nation during the past year, with all of his BS 7. Made some extremely "dumb" calls during important games...(but that is the case whenever a play doesn't work, no matter what coach or team) 8. I think BC is ready to move on .... and escape the rabid, passionate fans on NU..... I actually think he believed this would be easier than Oakland.....and he had no clue. I am not looking for arguments or attacks, I am on the fence and just thought I would throw food for thought on the topic...... I am just really trying to root for my team no matter what, support TO, and patiently wait until Sat. - MOn.

I'll take my best shot, without a lot of thought.... Worst case: finishing with a similar record, getting smoked at home by VT on ABC....if with BC, we here the same ol' song and dance and have to read all the same stuff on this board.... and TO losses credibility by retaining BC...... no bowl... and sell-out streak ends when KU beats NU for the 3rd time in 4 years... ....... finishing with the same scenario with a new coach.....Bo may say things to make the f'n hillbillies and throat-gate look like a Disney movie....or Gill brings in a 75th ranked recruiting class, etc... Best case: I really can't disagree with Hunter.....10-3 and winning the North, very solid bowl game such as Holiday..... Beating VT soundly in Lincoln, KU in Lincoln, and MU in Lincoln.....Holding Tech's offense somewhere under 35 points and coming out of the OU game without a coaching "remark" or a player assaulting a "rough-neck"..... TO looks like a genius for keeping BC or bringing in the guy who helped this team back into the top 15....... We all buy/or dig out our "order restored" shirts... and finally, yes, we get the crap out of KSU, making Josh Freeman 0-3 vs our Huskers...... and having BC (probably unemployed) text message Josh..."UR stupid"..

Thanks hskrnokc I too would like to wish everyone on this board a Happy Thanksgiving. We in the USA are very lucky to have the opportunities that we have. God Bless the people serving across the nation and across seas, who are unable to spend the holiday season with their families... Too all on this board....we may not always agree on how to fix the problems of our beloved Huskers, but we all have the same goal in mind, and that is the success of our very proud program...... Here's wishing each of you and your families a safe and happy Thanksgiving.

Is this also saying that over 1/2 of Hukser Nation would then in turn "not trust" TO......not trusting TO would be un-husker-like, huh.... everyone keeps saying that we need to trust TO and give him credit and respect (at least in response to my posts saying how big this decision is).....and now you all are saying that if he sitcks with BC.....it would be terrible, blah, blah, blah....what happened to "trusting TO" ...... or is it trust TO ....only if he does exactly what "you" want..... "you" is not a reference to any single person on this board or response, but is used as a "general reference"..... I really truly try to not attack anyone personally....

Hunter.....I am sure the Alabama statement wasn't just refering to the 1 year Saban era...Alabama has been a revolving door since the "Bear" retired........ similar to "TO" stepping down..... I have made this comment 100 times.....programs and fans who don't show patience pay the price.... If OU doesn't get lucky with Stoops, they will still be mired in a 18 year drought (10 as it was).....10 is a lot more than 4 (BC) I have a question for "restored order"......did you pin name come from "order restored" phrase, which came from the bC era.....how quickly the feather turns.... I am telling you, this hire better be great and lucky, because no one in husker nation has patience...... the glory days are over, and anyone who thinks we can jump right back does not have a clue about NCAA sports......not the MLB-NFL....can't buy a new team each year....called "rebuilding".....can only rebuild with time...

I totall agree with you MUtiger......he is very special...... this is a serious question to you, not a "jab"..... Do you think that he will stay at MU all 4 years, or does he bolt to the NFL after next season? Honest question.. The kid has Ted Ginn type of talent,and I just don't see him staying in college 4 years..... Being a Husker fan, I hope he goes pro.....being a college football fan and a teacher/coach, I hope he stays all 4.

I would hope to think that you aren't referring to my posts..... because, yes, I have been around long enough, and yes , longer than you by a bit......... I suppose you didn't buy into the order restored shirts that were the HOT item just 2 years ago...... I am with everyone on making a change, but don't spout off stuff about how you know Husker nation has "patience" because all of the proof says differently....... TO was the only one Husker nation had patience with, and it wasn't all pretty along the way....if you can remember that...during the early-mid 80's when we got smoked by Miami, FSU all the time..... Hell, he was told that if he didn't win the Bluebonet bowl, he would have been fired..... once again, if the "us" as referring to Husker Nation was a hint that at my post, you really don't have much of a clue, becuase sometimes, the "us" are the one's who haven't been around the block enough... Show me where the patience has been, and I will agree..... and don't try to tell me that after the Michigan win, and the NORth title that "most" of Husker Nation thought that bC was truly the man..... if you disagree, just do some research on past posts on this board earlier this spring, summer, and fall..... Okay, my rant is over.....and if your post wasn't directed at me, then I truly apologize for the above rant, and accept the fact that I misjudged your post....

HUnter.....nothing personal, because I don't totally disagree with you, but please go back and re-read the VERY 1ST LINE OF THIS THREAD.......we are not discussing whether or not a change needs to be made..... you can find that arruement on about 40 other threads...... this one is concerning the decision that TO is about to make and HOW BIG IT IS !!!! I don't believe that Husker Nation has the patience to give ANYONE more thatn 3-4 years to win.... Hence, if TO's guy doesn't win....revolving door it is..... That is what we are trying to discuss on this thread......

Hunter..... I agree and disagree slightly with you assessment.....absolutely, we should all get tired of watching 500 + yardage and giving up 45 + points....yes, coaches on the defensive side need to go.... Coz, Elmo....gone (mid-season at latest).... My question then, if BC would have fired Coz earlier in the year, would we all given BC teh benefit and the "patience" to continue to build... Look at Taylor after only 2 years in system.....Even Keller says the reason Ganz is playing so well is because he knows this system inside and out...... In another post, I mentioned I would like to see what would happen if you had a "Big-time" QB have 3-4 years in the system....what kind of numbers.....What if we had "big time" WR (other than MO)......this group is average at best and still are able to perform in the system.. Hell, people were calling for BC long ago..... I honestly do not agree that Husker Nation, yes, the same Husker Nation that I am PROUDLY a part of, has the patience to give anyone 4 years, if we don't WIN.. Hell, we won the North last year, BC revamped, and beat Michigan in year 2, won the north in year 3, and struggled this year..... Do people actually believe that if a "new" coach hasn't won the North within 2-3 years like BC did, that we will all say "that's ok"...... I disagree........hello revolving door , unless some guy works magic and comes in a wins the north within 2 years...... This why the decision IS THE BIGGEST IN PROGRAM HISTORY AND FUTURE.... I am not saying to keep BC, I am just saying that I am extremely worried bout the revolving door effect....