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Great stuff, indeed. It shows why this is a multiple front defense, and we have a lot of looks that obviously he couldn’t all show in that little segment. The double 4i front he showed is not as rare as he makes it out to be, it’s actually pretty common these days. However, the reason it’s common was well explained - it does the job with minimal numbers.

Except he did. 30 seconds into last Thursday’s press session.

I’m glad you’re not dwelling on this point.

Georgia St had T-shirts ready in advance Interesting how far some of these lower tier opponents may go to capitalize on a big upset.

All day they were rushing that LB, forcing that Safety to sit over the top to help. Notice the curl by Noa, the number 1 receiver to the outside. That’s to force that defender away from potentially providing help. Robinson is just attacking the seam vs a Cover 3. It was a well called and well executed play with a poor throw.

I really disagree strongly. Shoulda had Noa and JD when they were wide open but pressure got to Adrian both times. On the 3rd down throw to Robinson they’re in a single high safety with off coverage vs Trips with the LB on the 3rd receiver. Press the seams, force the Safety to help inside and hit the open man. That play is everything we are looking for but was just poorly thrown.

That miss to Robinson in the end zone was very unusual for him. Not a good strategy to assume he misses those.

I’m not sure where you’re getting that. The only teams I’m seeing in the Top 10 rushing yards per game that didn’t make a bowl are Air Force and Navy and those two definitely satisfy the qualifier of “vast majority”.

What is, people who will need a good lawyer. I’ll take “Stupid things seen at Folsom Field” for 400.

Correct. For the vast majority of teams that is also an inverse correlation. That’s why you’ll see teams with a very high number of passing yards lose, but rarely see the same from teams with high rushing yards.

Simply having the ball certainly can be situationally useful, but the TOP stat as it relates to an entire game or to be seen as an objective of the game, is pretty much useless. Time of possession is an inverse correlation stat. Meaning, it’s not that having a higher time of possession causes wins but rather teams in a winning position generate time of possession. Why? Because they want to waste time. That’s really what you’re measuring. It isn’t worth paying attention to for this reason. Everything you’d think your gaining by the metric is better handled by another metric. Your goal is to move the ball so that you can score, and stop the other team from doing the same. So those are the things worth measuring.

Which goes to Held’s point this week...he hopes to have both Rahmir and Thompkins ready by conference play. That probably won’t happen, particularly the latter, but that’s their goal.

Nobody would pay any attention to it if it weren’t in the box score. Every second you have the ball the other team isn’t scoring, but neither are you. That aspect gets too often missed. It’s impossible to score and keep the ball. Cant fault any one poster for praising that flawed stat, though. It’s rammed down our throats by announcers and writers who fail to appreciate it’s an alternate possession game.

In light of this week’s activities, this thread is pretty pointless until after the season. There is almost no way now the courts move fast enough now to come to any conclusions until then.

Held mentioned it was a different sort of offense and he has to adapt to that. He will be patient with that, but 3 years of his words and actions strongly suggest that patience has a limit. Every year he’s been with Frost they’ve had a group of backs get carries early and then get whittled down. Some of those guys got a lot of carries those first three or four games only to be sidelined the latter half.

This was Frost’s first takeaway, too. Practically verbatim.

Held did a good job Wednesday saying what needs to be said, but not directly calling guys out. We can do the math ourselves, if Adrian gets carries and Robinson gets some carries it’s hard to support 3 RBs....and he’s really high on Rahmir.

For the non rooting general public it’s a tough game to bet. All 6 units (o/d/st) are very explosive, for good and bad. The kind of game that can go from 3 points to 3 TDs instantly. Has bad beat written all over it.

I agree. Saturday didn’t move the needle for me in terms of what I think this offense can become. Play that way at Colorado, though, and I’m probably reconsidering. I’m curious on how our defense responds. They made some mistakes and I think most of what S. Alabama gained was given, but love the enthusiasm. That’s the hardest hurdle to overcome. If they maintain that week to week, little gains translate into big results.

I don’t think they have any trouble explaining it. They just don’t want to explain it to the other team.

CSU’s defense was better this year. In last year’s game they couldn’t even get lined up. Colorado gained fewer yards per play this year than last, though likely still more than they’d expect to gain against just about any P5. I dont think there is a ton to take away from last week’s game, but I was impressed with how well organized Colorado was in game 1 with a new coach. Didn’t sound like their practices were always that way. Their offense last year saw a steep drop from game 1 to game 2, so let’s hope it also does this year.

Sure, they swallowed the plate s few times and nearly choked to death, but they were hungry.

Yeah, but you can dunk his head in it a few times.

I think that’s exactly it. They’ll give guys stuff they can execute this week against a vulnerable CU defense, see how that goes, then probably start adding more as time goes on.