BIGREDFAN_in_OMAHA Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 No fish story: Sandwich saved his McDonald's By Paul Clark, The Cincinnati Enquirer CINCINNATI — In 1962, Lou Groen was desperate to save his floundering hamburger restaurant, the first McDonald's in the Cincinnati area. His problem: His clientele was heavily Roman Catholic. In those days, most Catholics abstained from meat every Friday, as well as during Lent, the 40-day period of repentance that begins this week with Ash Wednesday. His solution: He created the Filet-O-Fish — a sandwich that saved his restaurant and eventually would be consumed at a rate of 300 million a year. "Frisch's (the local Big Boy chain) dominated the market, and they had a very good fish sandwich," recalled Groen, now 89. "I was struggling. The crew was my wife, myself and a man named George. I did repairs, swept floors, you name it. "But that area (where his restaurant was located) was 87% Catholic. On Fridays we only took in about $75 a day," said Groen, a Catholic himself. "All our customers were going to Frisch's. "So I invented my fish sandwich, developed a special batter, made the tartar sauce and took it to headquarters." That led to a wager between Groen and McDonald's chief Ray Kroc, who had his own meatless idea. "He called his sandwich the Hula Burger," Groen said. "It was a cold bun and a slice of pineapple and that was it. "Ray said to me, 'Well, Lou, I'm going to put your fish sandwich on (a menu) for a Friday. But I'm going to put my special sandwich on, too. Whichever sells the most, that's the one we'll go with.' "Friday came and the word came out. I won hands down. I sold 350 fish sandwiches that day. Ray never did tell me how his sandwich did." But the chain made Groen modify the fish recipe. "I wanted halibut originally," Groen said. "I was paying $2 a pound for halibut. That sandwich cost me 30 cents apiece to make. They told me it had to sell for 25 cents. I had to fall back on Atlantic cod, a whitefish, and I added a slice of cheese. But my halibut sandwich far outshines that one." Groen wasn't complaining. "My fish sandwich was the first addition ever to McDonald's original menu," he said. "It saved my franchise." And fed it. By the time he sold his franchise in 1986, Groen owned 43 McDonald's restaurants in Greater Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky, about half the number in the region today. But his prosperity didn't include a slice of Filet-O-Fish's national sales. "Not a penny," he said. "I made my money by selling the product and being the best operator I could." Charles Faulks, operations director for McDonald's Ohio Region, called Groen's contributions legendary. "Lou exemplified Ray Kroc's philosophy that you can succeed if you believe in your brand, treat your people right and give back to your community." Groen entered the fast-food business in 1958. One day, while working in his father-in-law's Cincinnati restaurant, Groen was leafing through Restaurant Management magazine when he spotted a couple of advertisements for franchise opportunities. "They were tiny little ads," he said. "One was for McDonald's 15-cent hamburgers. The other was for Beverly Osborne Chicken Delight. I said to my wife, 'If we do this, we'll be eating a lot of these. Would you rather eat hamburgers or chicken?' "She picked hamburgers." When Groen answered the ad, he was told that $950 would buy him exclusive McDonald's franchise rights in Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana and parts of Pennsylvania. "But I didn't have $950," he said. So he invested a couple of hundred dollars in a district franchise that included Greater Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky. He opened his first store in 1959. So when was the last time he ate a Filet-O-Fish? "It's been a while," he said. "I broke my leg last year, and at age 89 I don't get out much. But I do love that sandwich." FILET-O-FISH FACTS • Hawaii is the top state in weekly Filet-O-Fish sales. Ohio is second. • About 23% of all Filet-O-Fish sandwiches are bought during Lent. • McDonald's buys more than 61 million pounds of fish per year for the sandwich in the USA. • Lou Groen invented the Filet-O-Fish to attract Catholics, but it's popular among Jews and Muslims whose dietary observances prohibit other McDonald's fare. • In addition to Filet-O-Fish, these icons also were developed by McDonald's franchise owner-operators, not by the central corporation: Big Mac (M.J. Delligatti, Pittsburgh, 1967) and Egg McMuffin (Herb Peterson, Santa Barbara, Calif., 1972). Sources: McDonald's, The (Cincinnati) Enquirer research Quote Link to comment
Chef K Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 No fish story: Sandwich saved his McDonald's By Paul Clark, The Cincinnati Enquirer CINCINNATI — In 1962, Lou Groen was desperate to save his floundering hamburger restaurant, the first McDonald's in the Cincinnati area. His problem: His clientele was heavily Roman Catholic. In those days, most Catholics abstained from meat every Friday, as well as during Lent, the 40-day period of repentance that begins this week with Ash Wednesday. His solution: He created the Filet-O-Fish — a sandwich that saved his restaurant and eventually would be consumed at a rate of 300 million a year. "Frisch's (the local Big Boy chain) dominated the market, and they had a very good fish sandwich," recalled Groen, now 89. "I was struggling. The crew was my wife, myself and a man named George. I did repairs, swept floors, you name it. "But that area (where his restaurant was located) was 87% Catholic. On Fridays we only took in about $75 a day," said Groen, a Catholic himself. "All our customers were going to Frisch's. "So I invented my fish sandwich, developed a special batter, made the tartar sauce and took it to headquarters." That led to a wager between Groen and McDonald's chief Ray Kroc, who had his own meatless idea. "He called his sandwich the Hula Burger," Groen said. "It was a cold bun and a slice of pineapple and that was it. "Ray said to me, 'Well, Lou, I'm going to put your fish sandwich on (a menu) for a Friday. But I'm going to put my special sandwich on, too. Whichever sells the most, that's the one we'll go with.' "Friday came and the word came out. I won hands down. I sold 350 fish sandwiches that day. Ray never did tell me how his sandwich did." But the chain made Groen modify the fish recipe. "I wanted halibut originally," Groen said. "I was paying $2 a pound for halibut. That sandwich cost me 30 cents apiece to make. They told me it had to sell for 25 cents. I had to fall back on Atlantic cod, a whitefish, and I added a slice of cheese. But my halibut sandwich far outshines that one." Groen wasn't complaining. "My fish sandwich was the first addition ever to McDonald's original menu," he said. "It saved my franchise." And fed it. By the time he sold his franchise in 1986, Groen owned 43 McDonald's restaurants in Greater Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky, about half the number in the region today. But his prosperity didn't include a slice of Filet-O-Fish's national sales. "Not a penny," he said. "I made my money by selling the product and being the best operator I could." Charles Faulks, operations director for McDonald's Ohio Region, called Groen's contributions legendary. "Lou exemplified Ray Kroc's philosophy that you can succeed if you believe in your brand, treat your people right and give back to your community." Groen entered the fast-food business in 1958. One day, while working in his father-in-law's Cincinnati restaurant, Groen was leafing through Restaurant Management magazine when he spotted a couple of advertisements for franchise opportunities. "They were tiny little ads," he said. "One was for McDonald's 15-cent hamburgers. The other was for Beverly Osborne Chicken Delight. I said to my wife, 'If we do this, we'll be eating a lot of these. Would you rather eat hamburgers or chicken?' "She picked hamburgers." When Groen answered the ad, he was told that $950 would buy him exclusive McDonald's franchise rights in Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana and parts of Pennsylvania. "But I didn't have $950," he said. So he invested a couple of hundred dollars in a district franchise that included Greater Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky. He opened his first store in 1959. So when was the last time he ate a Filet-O-Fish? "It's been a while," he said. "I broke my leg last year, and at age 89 I don't get out much. But I do love that sandwich." FILET-O-FISH FACTS • Hawaii is the top state in weekly Filet-O-Fish sales. Ohio is second. • About 23% of all Filet-O-Fish sandwiches are bought during Lent. • McDonald's buys more than 61 million pounds of fish per year for the sandwich in the USA. • Lou Groen invented the Filet-O-Fish to attract Catholics, but it's popular among Jews and Muslims whose dietary observances prohibit other McDonald's fare. • In addition to Filet-O-Fish, these icons also were developed by McDonald's franchise owner-operators, not by the central corporation: Big Mac (M.J. Delligatti, Pittsburgh, 1967) and Egg McMuffin (Herb Peterson, Santa Barbara, Calif., 1972). Sources: McDonald's, The (Cincinnati) Enquirer research It's my favorite sandwich from McD's, so simple yet better than any other fast food's fish sandwich. Quote Link to comment
HuskerJosh82 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 interesting Quote Link to comment
Drowning_in_the_Sea_of_Red Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 I'm more of a McChicken man myself. Quote Link to comment
huskernumerouno Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 late night after athe bara the mcrib is awsome when they have it. Quote Link to comment
husker rob Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 double cheese burger hold the pickles, and chicken McNuggets cant stand the filet-o-fish. we always got them after away football games in high school. luckily we got a quarter pounder frys and a drink also. if not i would have starved Quote Link to comment
huskered17 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 They should serve the Egg McMuffin all day. GBR!!! Quote Link to comment
MCAT800 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 My sister got a bonus one day at a McDonalds in Omaha. A nice big house fly in her Filet-O-Fish MMMmmmmmmmmmm Quote Link to comment
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