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[DCHusker]

 

cool, one day ill try making unfounded blanket statments based off what i'm hoping to be the reality!

 

because there's only 4 of those 11 wins where you can say "we would have lost had the d not done as well as it did"

 

vs. the 2 losses where the offense put up a combined 85 points... in other words in the 6 games we needed bo's "awesome defensive schemes" to work he was 4-2... check the margin of victory for the other games. then look at how many points the opposing teams scored in the loses where he got run over! not to mention in the 2 loses where according to you "the offense was incapable..." we already had a lead in the 4th quarter when bo's defense crapped out after the offense had already scored about as many points as you could expect out of an sec team against an sec opponent.

and next time you try to talk like a big boy, do it only when you have a clue what you're talking about.

 

First off, I'll admit it was a stretch to say the D was responsible for all 11 wins. But you have to be a little careful when you say two offenses "put up 85." Most of those points were put up in OT when the offense is given a distinct advantage cause they get the ball at the 25.

 

I'm not sure which four wins you're referring to, but I believe there are five: SC (#12 at the time), Florida (#9 at the time), Bama (#17 at the time), Auburn (#17 at the time) and Tennessee (#14 at the time). Kentucky was #17 and Arkansas unranked. I think 5-2 against those opponents is pretty good.

 

Like I said, I don't know what more you can ask for. You're making the case in other posts how tough the SEC is, but to be 5-2 in SEC games in which your D needed to get the win for you against mostly top 17 teams seems pretty impressive to me.

 

And if you want the offense to get a share of the credit for all the wins, they have to take at least some of the blame for the two OT losses also, especially against two teams that aren't great defensively.

[harp]

 

cool, one day ill try making unfounded blanket statments based off what i'm hoping to be the reality!

 

because there's only 4 of those 11 wins where you can say "we would have lost had the d not done as well as it did"

 

vs. the 2 losses where the offense put up a combined 85 points... in other words in the 6 games we needed bo's "awesome defensive schemes" to work he was 4-2... check the margin of victory for the other games. then look at how many points the opposing teams scored in the loses where he got run over! not to mention in the 2 loses where according to you "the offense was incapable..." we already had a lead in the 4th quarter when bo's defense crapped out after the offense had already scored about as many points as you could expect out of an sec team against an sec opponent.

and next time you try to talk like a big boy, do it only when you have a clue what you're talking about.

 

First off, I'll admit it was a stretch to say the D was responsible for all 11 wins. But you have to be a little careful when you say two offenses "put up 85." Most of those points were put up in OT when the offense is given a distinct advantage cause they get the ball at the 25.

 

I'm not sure which four wins you're referring to, but I believe there are five: SC (#12 at the time), Florida (#9 at the time), Bama (#17 at the time), Auburn (#17 at the time) and Tennessee (#14 at the time). Kentucky was #17 and Arkansas unranked. I think 5-2 against those opponents is pretty good.

 

Like I said, I don't know what more you can ask for. You're making the case in other posts how tough the SEC is, but to be 5-2 in SEC games in which your D needed to get the win for you against mostly top 17 teams seems pretty impressive to me.

 

And if you want the offense to get a share of the credit for all the wins, they have to take at least some of the blame for the two OT losses also, especially against two teams that aren't great defensively.

 

first off sc dosent count, torential downpour, from our seats we could hardly see the game hurricane force sh#t, so any offensive stats from that game a ridiculously skewed, no one was passing.

 

great, maybe eventually you'll do the reading comp thing and see... we were winning in both games but it took a defensive failure to get the game to overtime in the first place. the offense alreday did its part, they scored 28 plus points in regulation both times! what more do you want?

 

and yes, i see your point about the pts not being totally relevant, even though...

[rawhide-jr]

Just be thankful if you are lucky enough to come close to beating OSU.... If you played USC, you'd lose and you'd lose big. Your O is overrated.... 85 points in two games???? I sure as hell hope so, you had six extra possessions to do it!

[billdozer15]

Riddle me this, Harp.

 

What more did you want out of your D over this season? What would a "good" DC have gotten you? A stop in OT against Kentucky and Arkansas? Let's face it, that's your only gripe and when compared to the defensive performance over the course of the whole season, it's pretty insignificant.

 

And before you say two losses are significant in terms of NC contention, consider the 11 wins that your defense got for you. That D did it's job all year. Your offense was simply incapable of pulling away from teams in the 4th quarter.

 

cool, one day ill try making unfounded blanket statments based off what i'm hoping to be the reality!

 

because there's only 4 of those 11 wins where you can say "we would have lost had the d not done as well as it did"

 

vs. the 2 losses where the offense put up a combined 85 points... in other words in the 6 games we needed bo's "awesome defensive schemes" to work he was 4-2... check the margin of victory for the other games. then look at how many points the opposing teams scored in the loses where he got run over! not to mention in the 2 loses where according to you "the offense was incapable..." we already had a lead in the 4th quarter when bo's defense crapped out after the offense had already scored about as many points as you could expect out of an sec team against an sec opponent.

and next time you try to talk like a big boy, do it only when you have a clue what you're talking about.

 

Harp no offense, but you have got to be the dumbest person i have ever heard try and talk football. Those two losses were 3OT games!!! That means the opposing team started at the 25 yd line, it is pretty easy to score from the 25 yd line no matter who you are. Kentucky scored 16 pts from the 25 yd line while your offense was only able to muster 10. Had your OFFENSE scored a single point or even a freaking field goal in the 4th qtr that game is over. In the Arkansas game, ARK scored 22 pts from the 25 yd line while you guys were able to put up 20. Once agian your OFFENSE only scored 7 pts in the 4th. It doesnt matter who you are, when the game goes to OT if you dont have the momentum you are probably going to lose because it is so close the the end zone. Had your OFFENSE pulled their head out and scored some points those two games would have been W's. In the SEC championship game had the defense not SCORED pts because your offense couldnt that would have been another debacle.

 

LSU played 7 ranked opponents and held them to an avg of 23 ppg. Ranked opponents are going to score points, thats why they are ranked. You guys also pitched two shutouts. You need to quit your complaining because you guys had a hell of a season and if your offense would have not shut it down in the 4th qtr in those two games you would be undefeated. Its not your defense that is the problem. But you will see that soon enough when Pelini is gone and your defense is no longer one of the tops in the nation.

 

yep! your right! 3ot games that would have been won in the 4th quarter if bo hadn't laid down and played prevent. games where we were up by as much as 20 points! and the lead was blown prior to overtime, but after the 3rd quarter.

 

Nope, affraid not Harp.

 

Kentucky Box Score

Score by Quarters 1 2 3 4 OT [ 5 6 7 ] Score

----------------- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --------- -----

LSU................. 0 17 10 0 10 [ 7 3 0 ] - 37

Kentucky............ 7 7 7 6 16 [ 7 3 6 ] - 43

 

Seems to me you guys went down by 7 then were up by 3 at half all the while only scoring in the 2nd and 3rd qtrs. Meanwhile Kentucky just stayed steady and then only scored two field goals in the 4th qtr. What happened to your offense in the 1st or in the 4th. Evidently they decided to to go eat some gumbo.

 

Arkansas Box Score

Score by Quarters 1 2 3 4 OT [ 5 6 7 ] Score

----------------- -- -- -- -- -- ------- -----

Arkansas............ 0 7 14 7 22 [ 7 7 8 ] - 50

LSU................. 6 0 15 7 20 [ 7 7 6 ] - 48

 

Lets see here. LSU was only able to get two field goals in the first qtr, one of which was a 49 ydr. This sounds like a sputtering offense to me. In the 2nd half you guys trade shots but yet in the 4th still only score 7 pts. Why are you guys sputtering in the 1st and 4th?? I suppose Dorsey was playing QB in these two games.....or was Pelini acting as the OC?

 

At no point were you ever up by 20 points. So your argument that Bo was playing prevent is garbage. There was never a large lead blown in the 4th. In the Kentucky game you had a 7 pt lead only to not score another point and kentucky was able to get within field goal range to tie it up. The Ark game was tied going into the 4th. My point made, game-set-match you are a moron.

[harp]

Just be thankful if you are lucky enough to come close to beating OSU.... If you played USC, you'd lose and you'd lose big. Your O is underrated.... 85 points in two games???? I sure as hell hope so, you had six extra possessions to do it!

 

right, usc would destroy us... what with the way they put up 21 pts on idaho! yep and yall lost by a bigger margin... after almost losing to ball state...

 

 

as for osu: the prevailing logic is "osu, destroyed by fla, this year osu is significantly worse than last year, and were almost as good this year as fla was last year." so no, i'm not worried.

[Dan_F_30]

at least we are ok with these LSU fans coming and posting on our boards. If we were there posting they'd tell us to F*ck off and to leave. That I'm strangely proud of!

[harp]

Riddle me this, Harp.

 

What more did you want out of your D over this season? What would a "good" DC have gotten you? A stop in OT against Kentucky and Arkansas? Let's face it, that's your only gripe and when compared to the defensive performance over the course of the whole season, it's pretty insignificant.

 

And before you say two losses are significant in terms of NC contention, consider the 11 wins that your defense got for you. That D did it's job all year. Your offense was simply incapable of pulling away from teams in the 4th quarter.

 

cool, one day ill try making unfounded blanket statments based off what i'm hoping to be the reality!

 

because there's only 4 of those 11 wins where you can say "we would have lost had the d not done as well as it did"

 

vs. the 2 losses where the offense put up a combined 85 points... in other words in the 6 games we needed bo's "awesome defensive schemes" to work he was 4-2... check the margin of victory for the other games. then look at how many points the opposing teams scored in the loses where he got run over! not to mention in the 2 loses where according to you "the offense was incapable..." we already had a lead in the 4th quarter when bo's defense crapped out after the offense had already scored about as many points as you could expect out of an sec team against an sec opponent.

and next time you try to talk like a big boy, do it only when you have a clue what you're talking about.

 

Harp no offense, but you have got to be the dumbest person i have ever heard try and talk football. Those two losses were 3OT games!!! That means the opposing team started at the 25 yd line, it is pretty easy to score from the 25 yd line no matter who you are. Kentucky scored 16 pts from the 25 yd line while your offense was only able to muster 10. Had your OFFENSE scored a single point or even a freaking field goal in the 4th qtr that game is over. In the Arkansas game, ARK scored 22 pts from the 25 yd line while you guys were able to put up 20. Once agian your OFFENSE only scored 7 pts in the 4th. It doesnt matter who you are, when the game goes to OT if you dont have the momentum you are probably going to lose because it is so close the the end zone. Had your OFFENSE pulled their head out and scored some points those two games would have been W's. In the SEC championship game had the defense not SCORED pts because your offense couldnt that would have been another debacle.

 

LSU played 7 ranked opponents and held them to an avg of 23 ppg. Ranked opponents are going to score points, thats why they are ranked. You guys also pitched two shutouts. You need to quit your complaining because you guys had a hell of a season and if your offense would have not shut it down in the 4th qtr in those two games you would be undefeated. Its not your defense that is the problem. But you will see that soon enough when Pelini is gone and your defense is no longer one of the tops in the nation.

 

yep! your right! 3ot games that would have been won in the 4th quarter if bo hadn't laid down and played prevent. games where we were up by as much as 20 points! and the lead was blown prior to overtime, but after the 3rd quarter.

 

Nope, affraid not Harp.

 

Kentucky Box Score

Score by Quarters 1 2 3 4 OT [ 5 6 7 ] Score

----------------- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --------- -----

LSU................. 0 17 10 0 10 [ 7 3 0 ] - 37

Kentucky............ 7 7 7 6 16 [ 7 3 6 ] - 43

 

Seems to me you guys went down by 7 then were up by 3 at half all the while only scoring in the 2nd and 3rd qtrs. Meanwhile Kentucky just stayed steady and then only scored two field goals in the 4th qtr. What happened to your offense in the 1st or in the 4th. Evidently they decided to to go eat some gumbo.

 

Arkansas Box Score

Score by Quarters 1 2 3 4 OT [ 5 6 7 ] Score

----------------- -- -- -- -- -- ------- -----

Arkansas............ 0 7 14 7 22 [ 7 7 8 ] - 50

LSU................. 6 0 15 7 20 [ 7 7 6 ] - 48

 

Lets see here. LSU was only able to get two field goals in the first qtr, one of which was a 49 ydr. This sounds like a sputtering offense to me. In the 2nd half you guys trade shots but yet in the 4th still only score 7 pts. Why are you guys sputtering in the 1st and 4th?? I suppose Dorsey was playing QB in these two games.....or was Pelini acting as the OC?

 

At no point were you ever up by 20 points. So your argument that Bo was playing prevent is garbage. There was never a large lead blown in the 4th. In the Kentucky game you had a 7 pt lead only to not score another point and kentucky was able to get within field goal range to tie it up. The Ark game was tied going into the 4th. My point made, game-set-match you are a moron.

 

pardon me, my memory was a little too convienient. way to look that up though.

 

either way asking a defense to hold someone under 28 points when you have the bizarre level of talent we have = feasible.

[HuskerfaninOkieland]

yep! your right! 3ot games that would have been won in the 4th quarter if bo hadn't laid down and played prevent. games where we were up by as much as 20 points! and the lead was blown prior to overtime, but after the 3rd quarter.

 

and as for the offense... it was the 3rd ot! in both of them... no offense on earth will score points indefinitly. we scored 2 consecutive times in both games against top 40 defenses!... so did the other team... but bo crapped out first, its not playstation football dipsh*t, its called reality!

 

Maybe I'm missing it, but where's this 20pt lead you talk of?

 

LSU vs Kentucky Scoring Summary

 

LSU vs Arkansas Scoring Summary

 

 

According to those, the biggest lead you had was 13pts against Kentucky in the 3rd Qtr. Against Arkansas you guys went tit for tat all night. Or did you guys play a mythical 5 Qtr after the OT's?

[harp]

at least we are ok with these LSU fans coming and posting on our boards. If we were there posting they'd tell us to F*ck off and to leave. That I'm strangely proud of!

 

oohhhh, oooh hhhh yeah!

 

well at least i'm not a dumb dumb head???

 

my brother could beat up your brother????

[HuskerfaninOkieland]

 

Nope, affraid not Harp.

 

Kentucky Box Score

Score by Quarters 1 2 3 4 OT [ 5 6 7 ] Score

----------------- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --------- -----

LSU................. 0 17 10 0 10 [ 7 3 0 ] - 37

Kentucky............ 7 7 7 6 16 [ 7 3 6 ] - 43

 

Seems to me you guys went down by 7 then were up by 3 at half all the while only scoring in the 2nd and 3rd qtrs. Meanwhile Kentucky just stayed steady and then only scored two field goals in the 4th qtr. What happened to your offense in the 1st or in the 4th. Evidently they decided to to go eat some gumbo.

 

Arkansas Box Score

Score by Quarters 1 2 3 4 OT [ 5 6 7 ] Score

----------------- -- -- -- -- -- ------- -----

Arkansas............ 0 7 14 7 22 [ 7 7 8 ] - 50

LSU................. 6 0 15 7 20 [ 7 7 6 ] - 48

 

Lets see here. LSU was only able to get two field goals in the first qtr, one of which was a 49 ydr. This sounds like a sputtering offense to me. In the 2nd half you guys trade shots but yet in the 4th still only score 7 pts. Why are you guys sputtering in the 1st and 4th?? I suppose Dorsey was playing QB in these two games.....or was Pelini acting as the OC?

 

At no point were you ever up by 20 points. So your argument that Bo was playing prevent is garbage. There was never a large lead blown in the 4th. In the Kentucky game you had a 7 pt lead only to not score another point and kentucky was able to get within field goal range to tie it up. The Ark game was tied going into the 4th. My point made, game-set-match you are a moron.

You beat me too it

[Dan_F_30]

at least we are ok with these LSU fans coming and posting on our boards. If we were there posting they'd tell us to F*ck off and to leave. That I'm strangely proud of!

 

oohhhh, oooh hhhh yeah!

 

well at least i'm not a dumb dumb head???

 

my brother could beat up your brother????

I'm not adding it to the argument, just making an observation and that I'm proud we haven't told you to get lost, we actually do like to discuss things with other fans. Not putting you down just some other of your fans. So no need for irrational remarks here and be hostile when I didn't provoke any of it. Just making a true statement that I think is good.

[harp]

yep! your right! 3ot games that would have been won in the 4th quarter if bo hadn't laid down and played prevent. games where we were up by as much as 20 points! and the lead was blown prior to overtime, but after the 3rd quarter.

 

and as for the offense... it was the 3rd ot! in both of them... no offense on earth will score points indefinitly. we scored 2 consecutive times in both games against top 40 defenses!... so did the other team... but bo crapped out first, its not playstation football dipsh*t, its called reality!

 

Maybe I'm missing it, but where's this 20pt lead you talk of?

 

LSU vs Kentucky Scoring Summary

 

LSU vs Arkansas Scoring Summary

 

 

According to those, the biggest lead you had was 13pts against Kentucky in the 3rd Qtr. Against Arkansas you guys went tit for tat all night. Or did you guys play a mythical 5 Qtr after the OT's?

 

seriously though... how many times all season did your offense score more than 27-28pts? and why is asking a defense to prevent more than 27 points sooooo unrealistic? p.s. there's a reallly easy way to beat this argument too.

[harp]

at least we are ok with these LSU fans coming and posting on our boards. If we were there posting they'd tell us to F*ck off and to leave. That I'm strangely proud of!

 

oohhhh, oooh hhhh yeah!

 

well at least i'm not a dumb dumb head???

 

my brother could beat up your brother????

I'm not adding it to the argument, just making an observation and that I'm proud we haven't told you to get lost yet this hour, we actually do like to discuss things with other fans. Not putting you down just some other of your fans. So no need for irrational remarks here and be hostile when I didn't provoke any of it. Just making a true statement.

 

fixed it for yall's xenophobic asses.

 

and yes, we have our fair share of the same ignorant mouthbreathing yokels, which i've can seen a few of here, but hell, they're everywhere.

[hskrmama]

Here's an idea. Let them think whatever they want, and when we go top ten with a number 3 defense, and LSU is nowhere to be found we can go over to there board and say thanks for letting us have Bo, we really appreciate it.

[harp]

Here's an idea. Let them think whatever they want, and when we go top ten with a number 3 defense, and LSU is nowhere to be found we can go over to there board and say thanks for letting us have Bo, we really appreciate it.

 

and the next day, the world will end...