knapplc Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Agreed knapp. That part also wasn't in response to you. You made a point on cold weather WRs I agreed with. It's just a general sentiment I see a lot. We're Nebraska, we shouldn't be doing these blasphemous things, etc. We do tend to hear that a lot. Quote Link to comment
The Dude Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 2011 NFL Draft first rounders: QB - Cam Newton - Auburn QB - Jake Locker - Washington QB - Blaine Gabbert - Missouri QB - Christian Ponder - Florida State WR - AJ Green - Georgia WR - Julio Jones - Alabama WR - Jonathan Baldwin - Pitt 2010 QB - Sam Bradford - Oklahoma QB - Tim Tebow - Florida TE - Jermaine Gresham - Oklahoma WR - Demaryius Thomas - Georgia Tech WR - Dez Bryant - Oklahoma State 2009 QB - Matthew Stafford - Georgia QB - Mark Sanchez - USC QB - Josh Freeman - Kansas State WR - Darrius Heyward-Bey - Maryland WR - Michael Crabtree - Texas Tech WR - Jeremy Maclin - Missouri WR - Percy Harvin - Florida WR - Hakeem Nicks - North Carolina WR - Kenny Britt - Rutgers TE - Brandon Pettigrew - Oklahoma State And so on and so forth. History proves that most top receivers and quarterback gravitate towards warmer weather. This is a fact, whether you like it or not. It doesn't mean it's impossible to get those types of guys, it just makes it a whole hell of a lot harder. That and the fact that we don't have a strong recruiting base that produces those types of players, and the fact that we don't have a history of making QBs and WRs rich. All of this puts us at a *HUGE* disadvantage at getting those guys. Quote Link to comment
GBRsal Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 blaine gabbert LOL - in what universe have we proven we can recruit good O linemen? we haven't had an all conf Olineman in 10 years. Having a good Oline would be a great starting point. then maybe we could pick an offense to run Quote Link to comment
NUance Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 blaine gabbert LOL - in what universe have we proven we can recruit good O linemen? we haven't had an all conf Olineman in 10 years. Having a good Oline would be a great starting point. then maybe we could pick an offense to run Yeah, All Conf O-lineman have been sparse these last few years. I think Slauson got the nod his sr. year. But they've been few and far in between. Quote Link to comment
Paul in WI Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Regardless of what offense we run, the new staff needs to focus on the fundamentals. We can't afford to repeat the mistake of the last couple of years. Stop putting so many balls on the carpet (ex: Iowa State) and stop dropping so many passes (ex: Texas) and some of those losses will start turning into wins. Hey o-line: Execute forgodsakes. Cut out the freaking false starts. Once we do a better job of those things, we're in the hunt again. I think this year will be different. Hope springs eternal. Quote Link to comment
zoogs Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 It's because most top-tier offensive linemen gravitate towards warmer climes. 2011 NFL Draft T Tyron Smith - USC T Nate Solder - Colorado T Anthony Castonzo - Boston College T Gabe Carimi - Wisconsin T Derek Sherrod - Miss State C Mike Pouncey - Florida G Danny Watkins - Baylor G James Carpenter - Alabama 2010 NFL Draft T Trent Williams - Oklahoma T Russell Okung - Oklahoma State T Anthony Davis - Rutgers T Bryan Bulaga - Iowa G Mike Iupati - Idaho C Maurkice Pouncey - Florida 2009 NFL Draft T Jason Smith - Baylor T Andre Smith - Alabama T Eugene Monroe - Virginia T Michael Oher - Ole Miss C Alex Mack - California C Eric Wood - Louisville Quote Link to comment
NUance Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 It's because most top-tier offensive linemen gravitate towards warmer climes. 2011 NFL Draft T Tyron Smith - USC <warm> T Nate Solder - Colorado <cold> T Anthony Castonzo - Boston College <cold> T Gabe Carimi - Wisconsin <cold> T Derek Sherrod - Miss State <warm> C Mike Pouncey - Florida <warm> G Danny Watkins - Baylor <warm> G James Carpenter - Alabama <warm> 2010 NFL Draft T Trent Williams - Oklahoma <neutral> T Russell Okung - Oklahoma State <neutral> T Anthony Davis - Rutgers <cold> T Bryan Bulaga - Iowa <cold> G Mike Iupati - Idaho <cold> C Maurkice Pouncey - Florida <warm> 2009 NFL Draft T Jason Smith - Baylor <warm> T Andre Smith - Alabama <warm> T Eugene Monroe - Virginia <neutral> T Michael Oher - Ole Miss <warm> C Alex Mack - California (Cal Berkley) <neutral> C Eric Wood - Louisville <neutral> I dunno. Quite a few guys end up in cold climates. Probably about the same as the population distribution. Quote Link to comment
The Dude Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Oh the irony of talking about NU being a cold weather school when it's a million, billion, trillion degrees outside It's so damn hot, milk was a bad choice. 1 Quote Link to comment
NUance Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Oh the irony of talking about NU being a cold weather school when it's a million, billion, trillion degrees outside It's so damn hot, milk was a bad choice. But a Caucasian is always a good choice Dude. Quote Link to comment
theknife Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Statistically speaking, the sampling of a few players picked in the first round accounts for a very small sampling and is largely unreliable for what your trying to prove. Quote Link to comment
The Dude Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Of course elite guys are going to be a small sample. That's why they're elite. Another small sample of the same direct correlation: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/555409-college-football-recruiting-2011-where-are-the-top-10-quarterbacks-headed Quote Link to comment
theknife Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 32 x 53 = 1,696 players in the NFL on active rosters. The majority of players are not 1st round picks. Undrafted free agents and those drafted in later rounds make up the majority of the league. Simply sampling a few players from the first round does not adequately represent the aggregate. Not even taking sides, I'm just saying you would need to expand your sampling size. Quote Link to comment
theknife Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Also for every elite player in the 1st round, there is greater than or equal amount of busts. Quote Link to comment
The Dude Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Also for every elite player in the 1st round, there is greater than or equal amount of busts. Which really has nothing to do with this discussion. I simply submitted that most top pro-style QBs go to warm weather schools. And provided ample evidence to support the claim. Quote Link to comment
theknife Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/rankings/rank-rivalspsqb/2011 Simply look at last years pro style qbs. Where is this run of pro style qbs from the north to warmer climates? As someone said earlier, it appears to do more with population than climate. Quote Link to comment
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