carlfense Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Mitt's having a rough couple of weeks. Schadenfreude. Link to comment
HSKR Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Just for fun let's say whoever gets elected decides to tax the rich 90% and we find out afterwards we are still screwed trying to get out of this debt. What's the next step? Link to comment
carlfense Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Just for fun let's say whoever gets elected decides to tax the rich 90% and we find out afterwards we are still screwed trying to get out of this debt. What's the next step? Has anyone here suggested that we should tax 90% of income AND/OR that taxing the rich alone will get us out of debt? Is that straw man made of straw? 1 Link to comment
sd'sker Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Just for fun let's say whoever gets elected decides to tax the rich 90% and we find out afterwards we are still screwed trying to get out of this debt. What's the next step? we live in a world where people pay fair taxes. 1 Link to comment
sd'sker Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Just for fun let's say whoever gets elected decides to tax the rich 90% and we find out afterwards we are still screwed trying to get out of this debt. What's the next step? let us say we do not tax the rich hardly at all and the inequality gap is greater than anytime in the history of the nation? oh wait, that is what has been happening for the past 30 years. Link to comment
carlfense Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 The funniest part? Check out the map of Romney's 47%. Edit: Now let's compare that to the 2008 electoral map . . . hmmmmm . . . looks like the GOP is the official party of the "moochers." Link to comment
HSKR Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Just for fun let's say whoever gets elected decides to tax the rich 90% and we find out afterwards we are still screwed trying to get out of this debt. What's the next step? we live in a world where people pay fair taxes. If that's what you feel is fair, fine, if you say 100%, good for you, but the question is if that isn't enough then what do we do? I think if anyone can honestly answer that, then we may be able to get somewhere when it comes to balancing the budget. BTW, our debt has increased another 36 billion since the Democrat convention. Link to comment
HSKR Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 people just love being poor and helpless, you can not change that! what you can change is the tax code so someone can save 2.3 billion in taxes. While I am on this debt kick, if my math is correct, that's not even 24 hours of debt accumulation for our country. So in summary, we are screwed. Link to comment
sd'sker Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Just for fun let's say whoever gets elected decides to tax the rich 90% and we find out afterwards we are still screwed trying to get out of this debt. What's the next step? we live in a world where people pay fair taxes. If that's what you feel is fair, fine, if you say 100%, good for you, but the question is if that isn't enough then what do we do? I think if anyone can honestly answer that, then we may be able to get somewhere when it comes to balancing the budget. BTW, our debt has increased another 36 billion since the Democrat convention. i do not worry about the debt or deficit as much as you do. and, no, i do not think 90% is fair, but that is the point. fairness. so, just because taxing the rich a fair amount (whatever that may be) will not erase the debt, they should not have to pay their fair share? Link to comment
NUpolo8 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Just for fun let's say whoever gets elected decides to tax the rich 90% and we find out afterwards we are still screwed trying to get out of this debt. What's the next step? we live in a world where people pay fair taxes. If that's what you feel is fair, fine, if you say 100%, good for you, but the question is if that isn't enough then what do we do? I think if anyone can honestly answer that, then we may be able to get somewhere when it comes to balancing the budget. BTW, our debt has increased another 36 billion since the Democrat convention. i do not worry about the debt or deficit as much as you do. and, no, i do not think 90% is fair, but that is the point. fairness. so, just because taxing the rich a fair amount (whatever that may be) will not erase the debt, they should not have to pay their fair share? "Fair share" is a nothing phrase. So so so easy to decide what other people should pay. A fair tax is a flat tax. Link to comment
sd'sker Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Just for fun let's say whoever gets elected decides to tax the rich 90% and we find out afterwards we are still screwed trying to get out of this debt. What's the next step? we live in a world where people pay fair taxes. If that's what you feel is fair, fine, if you say 100%, good for you, but the question is if that isn't enough then what do we do? I think if anyone can honestly answer that, then we may be able to get somewhere when it comes to balancing the budget. BTW, our debt has increased another 36 billion since the Democrat convention. i do not worry about the debt or deficit as much as you do. and, no, i do not think 90% is fair, but that is the point. fairness. so, just because taxing the rich a fair amount (whatever that may be) will not erase the debt, they should not have to pay their fair share? "Fair share" is a nothing phrase. So so so easy to decide what other people should pay. A fair tax is a flat tax. a fair tax is a flat tax could not be further from the truth. that would be an overtly regressive tax scheme. so, everyone pays 30%? well, 30% for you and me affects our income and purchasing power way more than a romney or adelson. also, what do you mean by 'so easy to decide what other people should pay'. is that not what you are doing with your flat tax scheme? Link to comment
knapplc Posted September 18, 2012 Author Share Posted September 18, 2012 I'd just love to see where anyone at all has ever said that taxing the super-wealthy like the rest of us are taxed will solve the debt. Nobody, anywhere, ever, has said that - except for Republican pundits and Fox News. But ... whatever. Before today I had never heard of Motherjones. Don't know a thing about it. Got the link off Reddit. Does it matter? Isn't that Romney saying those things? If it isn't, by all means, correct me. Link to comment
knapplc Posted September 18, 2012 Author Share Posted September 18, 2012 So so so easy to decide what other people should pay. Someone does that right now. They do it for you, for me, for the next guy. Why can't I have a say in what someone else pays? Link to comment
HSKR Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Just for fun let's say whoever gets elected decides to tax the rich 90% and we find out afterwards we are still screwed trying to get out of this debt. What's the next step? we live in a world where people pay fair taxes. If that's what you feel is fair, fine, if you say 100%, good for you, but the question is if that isn't enough then what do we do? I think if anyone can honestly answer that, then we may be able to get somewhere when it comes to balancing the budget. BTW, our debt has increased another 36 billion since the Democrat convention. i do not worry about the debt or deficit as much as you do. and, no, i do not think 90% is fair, but that is the point. fairness. so, just because taxing the rich a fair amount (whatever that may be) will not erase the debt, they should not have to pay their fair share? Not even sure what to say after reading that. You and I probably wouldn't be as far off from each other then either of us think when it comes to fairness for taxes, especially when it comes to loopholes but I am a lot more worried about the debt and deficit then the precise percentage that the rich should pay. Why? Because our country's debt will vastly affect me and you more then what the rich pay in taxes. While there is a valid argument debating what the rich pay, the reality is it's taking the eye off the ball when it comes to fixing our bigger problems. Link to comment
sd'sker Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Just for fun let's say whoever gets elected decides to tax the rich 90% and we find out afterwards we are still screwed trying to get out of this debt. What's the next step? we live in a world where people pay fair taxes. If that's what you feel is fair, fine, if you say 100%, good for you, but the question is if that isn't enough then what do we do? I think if anyone can honestly answer that, then we may be able to get somewhere when it comes to balancing the budget. BTW, our debt has increased another 36 billion since the Democrat convention. i do not worry about the debt or deficit as much as you do. and, no, i do not think 90% is fair, but that is the point. fairness. so, just because taxing the rich a fair amount (whatever that may be) will not erase the debt, they should not have to pay their fair share? Not even sure what to say after reading that. You and I probably wouldn't be as far off from each other then either of us think when it comes to fairness for taxes, especially when it comes to loopholes but I am a lot more worried about the debt and deficit then the precise percentage that the rich should pay. Why? Because our country's debt will vastly affect me and you more then what the rich pay in taxes. While there is a valid argument debating what the rich pay, the reality is it's taking the eye off the ball when it comes to fixing our bigger problems. enlighten me why the debt and deficit matter? but the way to fix the economy is to increase tax revenue by strengthening the middle-class. Link to comment
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