huskered17 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I think Ind and ILL come over to the Legends, when it is finally set up. GBR!!! Quote Link to comment
akita Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Yes. East/West is the way to go now here. East: Ohio State Michigan Penn State Purdue Indiana Rutgers Maryland West: Nebraska Wisconsin Michigan State Iowa Northwestern Illinois Minnesota This looks to be pretty good. It means by most years. Ohio St/Michigan final game will determine who goes to the Big 10 championship game. Kick Iowa out and insert Nebraska/Wisconsin final game of the year. Quote Link to comment
GM_Tood Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I think Ind and ILL come over to the Legends, when it is finally set up. GBR!!! Especially when they add two more East Coast teams to make it 16. Quote Link to comment
Fuzzy Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 The rumor from the Maryland athletic department and board of regents was that only Illinois was to move to the Legends and Maryland and Rutgers would go to the Leaders. Quote Link to comment
HuskerHacker Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 What I'd expect is this: Whisky to the "Legends" Rutgers and Maryland to the "Leaders" Cross rivalries remain. then a 6 year, 2 team rotation between the remaining cross division: So.... 2014 and 15 Penn St (cross rivalry) Rutgers and Purdue 2016 and 17 Penn St, Indiana and Maryland 2018 and 19 Penn State, Ohio St and Illinios and then repeat the process. The down side to this is the (Whisky vs tOSU) as well as the (tOSU vs Huskers) games wouldn't occur as often but... there stands a chance of meeting every year in the championship. Also, "the" game for the BIG is now and will always be "Mich vs tOSU"... the way it currently is these two teams could possibly play back to back games and I'm not sure the BIG wants that so one might speculate that Mich moves to the Leaders and Illinios moves to the Legends.. That places Michigan and Ohio State in one division and Nebraska and Wisconsin in the other division. It would also open the door for MSU and Michigan to play for the title in the BIG Championship and that has to be something that both schools would like, yes? So the 2014 schedule could look like this: Florida Atlantic Fresno State Miami Leaders - Rutgers Leaders - Purdue Legends - Whisky Legends - Minn Legends - Mich St Cross Rivalry - Penn St Legends - Northwestern Legends - Michigan (or Illinios if changed but doubtful) Legends - Iowa Championship Game Quote Link to comment
TGHusker Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 With the addition of Rutgers and Maryland next year the divisions are obviously going to change. But I don't think we have to remain standard in their formations and how they play out. I believe that the B1G looking to take the conference to another level, and here is how I'd like to see it play out. 2 Divisions (East/West) Legends and Leaders, I don't really care anymore. 4 sub divisions of three teams a piece 2 float teams (last years division winners) West 1 Wisconsin Iowa Minnesota West 2 Northwestern Michigan State Illinois Nebraska Floats (assuming 2012 division winners) East 1 Michigan Rutgers Purdue East 2 Maryland Penn State Indiana Ohio State Floats (already determined 2012 division winners) The way I would like to see it. Is the Division winners should play each other week 1 a "true" neutral site, and then would play all teams who finished 3-10 during the last season. Each conference schedule should be created just prior to the season starts. Non-con remains the same. The bottom feeders will have the easiest schedules to play to promote the most teams possible making them bowl eligible. Each team play the two teams in their sub division first, two in each of the other sub divisions totaling 8 conference games. The home and away games would be determined only by where you played that team last. There are obviously lots of other issues with doing it this way, but its a thought I like the notion of the two division winners squaring off. But I think the bolded part would cause all sorts of logistics problems. Probably insurmountable logistics problems. Just slide Wisconsin over to the Legends division. Add Maryland and Rutgers to Leaders. Stop the cross rivalry game with PSU. Done. I say move Wiscy & Illinois to legends - move Michigan to leaders. End the cross div rival game. this allows the sacred OSU/Mich game to continue. I think Huskers and Wisky will develop a natural rivalry - call it the Big Red Trophy. Our trophy game wt Iowa will be one sided for many years to come. 3 Quote Link to comment
WAHusker Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Group 1 Nebraska Iowa Wisconsin Minny Group 2 Michigan MSU Northwestern Illinios Group 3 Ohio State Indiana UVA (or whatever other team we get) UNC (or whatever other team we get) Group 4 PSU Rutgers Maryland purdue 9 conf games per year. group 1 and 2 play each other for 2 years, with each school have one protected corssover per group (for groups 3 and 4). Every 2 years, they change to another group and play 2 protect corssovers (from other two groups they arent paired up for that year). Essentailly 4 protected cross overs, and play the other 9 teams twice every 6 years. Our schedule for year one and two... Play all of group 1 and 2 teams, plus one prtected crossover from group 3 and 4 (PSU and OSU) Our schedule for year 3 and 4.... Play all of group 1 and 3 teams, plus one protected crossover from group 2 and 4 (NW and OSU) Our schedule for year 5 and 6.... Play all of group 1 and 4 teams, plus one protected crossover from group 2 and 3 (NW and PSU) Quote Link to comment
akita Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Group 1 Nebraska Iowa Wisconsin Minny Group 2 Michigan MSU Northwestern Illinios Group 3 Ohio State Indiana UVA (or whatever other team we get) UNC (or whatever other team we get) Group 4 PSU Rutgers Maryland purdue 9 conf games per year. group 1 and 2 play each other for 2 years, with each school have one protected corssover per group (for groups 3 and 4). Every 2 years, they change to another group and play 2 protect corssovers (from other two groups they arent paired up for that year). Essentailly 4 protected cross overs, and play the other 9 teams twice every 6 years. Our schedule for year one and two... Play all of group 1 and 2 teams, plus one prtected crossover from group 3 and 4 (PSU and OSU) Our schedule for year 3 and 4.... Play all of group 1 and 3 teams, plus one protected crossover from group 2 and 4 (NW and OSU) Our schedule for year 5 and 6.... Play all of group 1 and 4 teams, plus one protected crossover from group 2 and 3 (NW and PSU) Group one: top heavy group2: Toughest of the bunch. Group 3: Ohio St does not lose that group until way after i die and I plan on living another35 years. Group 4: race to 5 wins wins it/lol. Remember PSU is going under for a long time. Dang that was surreal realizing I probably have lived over half my life. Quote Link to comment
schlumper Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Group 1 Nebraska Iowa Wisconsin Minny Group 2 Michigan MSU Northwestern Illinios Group 3 Ohio State Indiana UVA (or whatever other team we get) UNC (or whatever other team we get) Group 4 PSU Rutgers Maryland purdue 9 conf games per year. group 1 and 2 play each other for 2 years, with each school have one protected corssover per group (for groups 3 and 4). Every 2 years, they change to another group and play 2 protect corssovers (from other two groups they arent paired up for that year). Essentailly 4 protected cross overs, and play the other 9 teams twice every 6 years. Our schedule for year one and two... Play all of group 1 and 2 teams, plus one prtected crossover from group 3 and 4 (PSU and OSU) Our schedule for year 3 and 4.... Play all of group 1 and 3 teams, plus one protected crossover from group 2 and 4 (NW and OSU) Our schedule for year 5 and 6.... Play all of group 1 and 4 teams, plus one protected crossover from group 2 and 3 (NW and PSU) Always liked that format for a 16 team conference. Many say it's too complicated, but it's the simplest way to prevent long term competitive imbalance in such a large conference. The grouping would definitely need adjusting depending on what the other 2 teams end up being. (hopefully good eastern football teams like VT, Georgia Tech, or Florida State) Then it would be easy to just throw all 4 new teams in one group. Group 1: Rutgers Maryland New team A New team B Group 2: Minnesota Wisconsin Iowa Nebraska Group 3: Michigan Michigan St NW Illinois Group 4: tOSU PSU Indiana Purdue Quote Link to comment
flatwaterfan Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 With the addition of Rutgers and Maryland next year the divisions are obviously going to change. But I don't think we have to remain standard in their formations and how they play out. I believe that the B1G looking to take the conference to another level, and here is how I'd like to see it play out. 2 Divisions (East/West) Legends and Leaders, I don't really care anymore. 4 sub divisions of three teams a piece 2 float teams (last years division winners) West 1 Wisconsin Iowa Minnesota West 2 Northwestern Michigan State Illinois Nebraska Floats (assuming 2012 division winners) East 1 Michigan Rutgers Purdue East 2 Maryland Penn State Indiana Ohio State Floats (already determined 2012 division winners) The way I would like to see it. Is the Division winners should play each other week 1 a "true" neutral site, and then would play all teams who finished 3-10 during the last season. Each conference schedule should be created just prior to the season starts. Non-con remains the same. The bottom feeders will have the easiest schedules to play to promote the most teams possible making them bowl eligible. Each team play the two teams in their sub division first, two in each of the other sub divisions totaling 8 conference games. The home and away games would be determined only by where you played that team last. There are obviously lots of other issues with doing it this way, but its a thought I like the notion of the two division winners squaring off. But I think the bolded part would cause all sorts of logistics problems. Probably insurmountable logistics problems. I had a similiar thought in determining conference schedules at Big 10 media days. You could go to 2 7 team divisions geographically aligned with a 9 game conference schedule. Play the 6 teams in your division plus 1 protected cross divisional game. Do that schedule ahead of time. Then do a lottery draw on the other 2 cross division games. Make the lottery picks a big event like the draft. Do it in July. Also like WaHuskers pod scheme for 16 teams. I think a 9 game schedule is going to be the mandate and I think the commissioner is going to say that the new tv revenues will more than make up for the loss of a home game every year. I think we will end up scheduling 2 cupcake homegames and the third will be a marque home&home series. They should think about scheduling one of the cupcakes the week prior to Thanksgiving similar to the $EC. Gives you a 'break' without it being a 'break'. Also would be helpful to do that before the short week. Would also bump up some of our conference games a week earlier in the fall where you get nicer weather which could be helpful to recruiting. Quote Link to comment
WAHusker Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 ya, the pods could be created however they worked best, mine was just a sample. I am more intetersted in the 4 pod makup and how the rotation would help keep things competitive every year. Quote Link to comment
totengur Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 how about we just divide it up Geographically like we should have orgionally. Quote Link to comment
flatwaterfan Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 That would make things easier, but I do like the competitive balance in the current scheme. Moving Illinois would keep that and it would be somewhat geographically aligned for the most part. Quote Link to comment
Muck Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 how about we just divide it up Geographically like we should have orgionally. Because the B1G didn't want to repeat the mistake of the Big 12 north. A small market ghettoized western division is not a good idea for the long term health of member schools. If the B1G stays at 14 for awhile I'd prefer pods to mitigate the problems inherent in a 2x7 league (namely rarely facing traditional opponents). Fixed pods: Ohio State, Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana TSUN, Sparty, Northwestern, Purdue Floating pods: Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota PSU, Maryland, Rutgers Each team in the fixed pods would have a single locked opponent from the opposing pod: Ohio State - TSUN Wisconsin - Sparty Illinois - Northwestern Indiana -Purdue That would allow Nebraska to have a home & home with each team in the league every four years: 1 Quote Link to comment
akita Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 how about we just divide it up Geographically like we should have orgionally. Because the B1G didn't want to repeat the mistake of the Big 12 north. A small market ghettoized western division is not a good idea for the long term health of member schools. If the B1G stays at 14 for awhile I'd prefer pods to mitigate the problems inherent in a 2x7 league (namely rarely facing traditional opponents). Fixed pods: Ohio State, Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana TSUN, Sparty, Northwestern, Purdue Floating pods: Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota PSU, Maryland, Rutgers Each team in the fixed pods would have a single locked opponent from the opposing pod: Ohio State - TSUN Wisconsin - Sparty Illinois - Northwestern Indiana -Purdue That would allow Nebraska to have a home & home with each team in the league every four years: I might and probably missing something here. Who is TSUN? Quote Link to comment
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