TGHusker

And not to mention, if elected Trump wants to restart his 2017 tax cuts. Term limits are needed - we got a lot of people from both parties getting fat off of govt pork.

Good - I thought you might be washing windows at a certain book dispensary

His character, which at the time mattered to the FVP (Family Values Party) but no longer holds true - but I digress - is the big issue with the impeachment sting and his wife being who she is didn't help.

If you could look back into history - would you change the above any?

My votes: Most Consequential - this is so very hard for someone who has lived through all of the listed presidents. Most of you who know me via my posts would probably think I would mark Reagan - he and Eisenhower are my top 3. But I put Johnson - Johnson was perhaps after Trump my most disliked president but unlike Trump, he had an substantial impact on America for years to come (assuming there is no 2nd Trump term). With Johnson we get the real good - civil rights laws, safety nets for the poor and other social programs that were needed. We also get the bad - escalation of Vietnam War, riots in American cities. His impact was felt in both the election of Nixon (short term reaction to Vietnam) and the election of Reagan (long term reaction to the growing political class and size of govt.). Vietnam remains a scar in the American mind even to this day. Highest Rank - Eisenhower - hands down. His measure response to Korea, Communist aggression and Soviet military expansion literally kept us out of WW3. He pushed for and got the Interstate Highway System based on his experience in WW2 - this transformed America. He pushed for Civil Rights Laws and was hugely popular during his time in office. America remained in peace while there were several opportunities for more trigger happy guys to start a war - but he didn't go that route. Favorite: Reagan - We needed his personality after Carter. We needed also his fortitude to stand against Soviet expansion at that time. We also needed his efforts to expand the economy after the Carter malaise. Regardless of where he may have failed in other areas (social programs), he met the greatest challenges of his day. Under Appreciated: It pains me to say this as I didn't care for him while he was president but it has to be Clinton. He knew when to compromise wt congress to get a balanced budget (the last one we've had), he kept us out of a major war, and the economy was pretty good during his term in office. With all of his personal shortcomings - he had a good team that managed well and he recognized that the era of big government was over and moderation was needed. Yes, he had the benefit of the 'peace dividend' that was secured by the Reagan/Bush foreign policy but he didn't 'blow it'.

We've probably all have seen Ranking of Presidents polls that come from various political or historical perspectives. With that in mind, I wanted to create our own HB poll - but with a twist - ranking presidents from Eisenhower forward to today. I doubt there is anyone on HB who lived when Truman was president but there are some of us who were born during the Eisenhower presidency. I want to get your thoughts, during this presidential election season, on the following: Who was the Most Consequential President since Truman. - This is very hard - consequential could be good, bad and a mix - regardless of where they rank historically Who should be the Highest Ranked President by historians - Lincoln, Washington, FDR are typically the highest ranked presidents and for good reason. What about those during our life time? Who was your Favorite President - regardless of consequentialness or rank - who did/do you like the best Who was the most Under-Appreciated President - by that I mean the president who should get a 2nd look - that historically may not be a high ranking president but who should be appreciated more. Some of you are fairly young and don't have the personal history of some of the older posters- you may need to look back as a student of history. Our opinions / rankings may come from and through totally different filters. It will be interesting to hear your perspectives.

Agreed. That article was a chilling reminder as to why this election is truly the most consequential of our life time. (over used phrase but true this time) Some of these Trump advisors remind me of those in the 2nd picture below. The article paints an alt-right utopia as the dream outcome of this group. Trump has no sense of history or place.

I think 18 years max on the SC. 2 full presidential terms plus 2 years. Like any job, it is hard to keep the creative, intellectual juices flowing after a number of years. The challenge to think creativity is often lost and ruts are formed. Culture changes much in 18 years but of course, we want decisions to be tied to the constitutionality of the an issue and not by flippant cultural changes.

Yes, agree on the bold. Of course I use to think the same about Congress - Dem / GOP split. But until the GOP gets rid of its cultish/MAGA ways, I don't want them controlling either the house or the senate.

Some have written that the ruling will not come until the end of the court calendar - end of June This should be an emergency decision.

And the cult he created

I've been on the contemporary side for decades - now longing more for the traditional.

What country are we living in? North Korea, China, Russia - if Trump and his ilk had their way, he'd replicate their systems and set himself up as dictator. Yes, Russia has elections too. Funny how Putin always wins.

Yep - a president become DeFacto king, ruler for life if he so desire. I wish that escalator had swallowed him up in 2015. A decade of chaos because of one bad man.

Don’t restrain yourself- just let it rip Brother!

Easy access, type of guns allowed to be purchased, gun shows not needing background checks, mental health care, etc To me and my wife - besides Democracy (the future of our country at stake) - this is the 2nd most important issue this election. The GOP has consistently fallen on the wrong side of this issue. Comprehensive approach has to include the mental health side as well. Too many people being able to purchase guns who have mental illnesses.

How can the Newsmax guy just sit there and not correct her? Unless..... To think I use to read Newmax But for the grace of God

This pastor nails it. He puts the 'trump bible' in its place along with Christian Nationalism. He makes it clear - the gospel isn't an American gospel but the gospel of Jesus Christ. Plain and Simple. It isn't for grifters like Trump.

That was a good one

Well stated.

Nutso has opened her mouth again https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-taylor-greene-trial-murder-b2533420.html Marjorie Taylor Greene makes wild claim that Democrats want Trump to be ‘murdered in jail’ The right-wing lawmaker from Georgia claimed on Infowars that the former president would have secret service detail removed if he is sent to prison after any of his four criminal trials She added that Democrats are also attempting to strip Mr Trump of his presidential Secret Service detail to accomplish their goal. “They want to lock him up in jail for the rest of his life so that he dies in jail,” she told Jones, a conspiracy theorist who owes the families of Sandy Hook victims $1.5bn. “And they want to take away his Secret Service protection so that he is murdered somewhere in jail, possibly. This is how serious they are,” she added.

Yes you can go there and enjoy poking the cult of you want and use as many words as you want Or maybe just one: CRAZY

Answer: Insurrection 2.0

I guess there is no chance it could be the product itself, the owner himself, and their own public image.