True2tRA Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Hey, I agree with a lot of this...which leads me to my biggest point. HIRE A FREAKING ACE RECRUITER either has the head coach or all of his assistants. Is this current staff's first recruting class not panning out on the field on Husker Gamedays? You think maybe we give these guys a chance to show us what kind of recruiters they can be here at Nebraska? I know we all love the star system, but look how effective all those stars are for us now. I think we've got some pretty talented kids committed to this current coaching staff right now. Regardless, these guys deserve a f'ing chance to show it one way or another for God's sake. 5 Quote Link to comment
admo Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I mean.....that's a lot of names. Those are all committed players from 2011-2014 that have not really been impactful here at Nebraska. Riley's only been here 10 months. Are all those let downs Rileys fault too? Please remind me which games we've lost this season due to being the lesser talented team? Have you not seen our Offensive Line, Linebackers, Running Backs, QB and some corners? Miami and Wisconsin both have more talent. So if you feel like counting Miami and Wisconsin, there's 2. What's our record again? Dodge it all you want bud. You asked and I answered. Now you are just taking jabs as usual. So is TA more talented than Taysom Hill? More talented than Wes Lunt or even? Should Jamal Turner briefly stop on a deep route when a nice pass is coming his way for what looked like a sure TD? Should Reilly drop a pass near the end zone? Tell me what game was it that Gerry dropped an INT that hit him in his hands? Illinois or Wisconsin? Should the kicker miss that many FGs in games that those points may have made a difference? How about the OL that keeps losing the battle at the line of scrimmage in almost every game they've played? Along those lines, why is that our QB is running for his life on many pass attempts each game when there isn't even a defensive blitz? And I haven't even touched on the LBs, the injuries to key players (VV, DPE, MRI). Keep pecking at the HC and assistants if that's your entire prerogative. When the ball is snapped, each player has a job to do within the play. These guys - and I love them - they are just not talented enough to get it done. They are giving their best and I can see that. But their best is getting beat in every fourth quarter. Maybe that's just a depth issue - or questionable backup talent. 2 Quote Link to comment
Hunter94 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 technique, talent and piss poor play calling.......it all goes together. 1 Quote Link to comment
TheSker Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I mean.....that's a lot of names. Those are all committed players from 2011-2014 that have not really been impactful here at Nebraska. Riley's only been here 10 months. Are all those let downs Rileys fault too? Please remind me which games we've lost this season due to being the lesser talented team? Have you not seen our Offensive Line, Linebackers, Running Backs, QB and some corners? Miami and Wisconsin both have more talent. So if you feel like counting Miami and Wisconsin, there's 2. What's our record again? Dodge it all you want bud. You asked and I answered. Now you are just taking jabs as usual. So is TA more talented than Taysom Hill? More talented than Wes Lunt or even? Should Jamal Turner briefly stop on a deep route when a nice pass is coming his way for what looked like a sure TD? Should Reilly drop a pass near the end zone? Tell me what game was it that Gerry dropped an INT that hit him in his hands? Illinois or Wisconsin? Should the kicker miss that many FGs in games that those points may have made a difference? How about the OL that keeps losing the battle at the line of scrimmage in almost every game they've played? Along those lines, why is that our QB is running for his life on many pass attempts each game when there isn't even a defensive blitz? And I haven't even touched on the LBs, the injuries to key players (VV, DPE, MRI). Keep pecking at the HC and assistants if that's your entire prerogative. When the ball is snapped, each player has a job to do within the play. These guys - and I love them - they are just not talented enough to get it done. They are giving their best and I can see that. But their best is getting beat in every fourth quarter. Maybe that's just a depth issue - or questionable backup talent. Didn't dodge anything "bud".....I took the answer you provided and asked why we've got the worst record through 8 games in decades. Maybe players aren't producing if you want to go with that. With Pelini, we'd either call it out for throwing players under the bus, or harp on that ol' "execution" thing again. Here's the problem. Pelini found a way to get guys to play for him well enough to win 70% of his games. So yes, "pecking" at the HC is my prerogative. It's not like his coaching history didn't shout loud and clear to us this was coming. 1 Quote Link to comment
cm husker Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I believe his methodology uses an attrition based calculation. In other words, talent today. Not talent based on signing day. Quote Link to comment
cm husker Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 People who call out a dropped pass (which was on a TD drive anyway) and a dropped interception are desparate apologists looking for any excuse they can find. Missing the forest for the trees is what that is. Quote Link to comment
teachercd Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Hey, I agree with a lot of this...which leads me to my biggest point. HIRE A FREAKING ACE RECRUITER either has the head coach or all of his assistants. Is this current staff's first recruting class not panning out on the field on Husker Gamedays? You think maybe we give these guys a chance to show us what kind of recruiters they can be here at Nebraska? I know we all love the star system, but look how effective all those stars are for us now. I think we've got some pretty talented kids committed to this current coaching staff right now. Regardless, these guys deserve a f'ing chance to show it one way or another for God's sake. Yes...we are giving them a chance. I hope this incoming class ranks in the top 20. It is my expectation for them. Quote Link to comment
TheSker Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 People who call out a dropped pass (which was on a TD drive anyway) and a dropped interception are desparate apologists looking for any excuse they can find. Missing the forest for the trees is what that is. I'm with you.....I get tired of hearing "but all the dropped passes". Well, stop passing 49 flippin' times. Quote Link to comment
teachercd Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 People who call out a dropped pass (which was on a TD drive anyway) and a dropped interception are desparate apologists looking for any excuse they can find. Missing the forest for the trees is what that is. I'm with you.....I get tired of hearing "but all the dropped passes". Well, stop passing 49 flippin' times. But that new WR Coach has a bunch of cool sayings and stuff! You know what is interesting...if you had a RB that fumbled the rock all the time you would not play him...If you had a RB that missed blocks all the time you would not play him...but the WR's can drop passes and they play and we pass Quote Link to comment
TheSker Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 More talented than Wes Lunt or even? Here's what Lee Barfknect thinks of losing to West Lunt and the Fighting Illini. http://www.omaha.com/huskers/barfknecht-new-verse-same-old-song-at-nebraska-no-excuses/article_eb4aec61-62df-5d85-b0a7-9a3dbe599c16.html Quote Link to comment
admo Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 People who call out a dropped pass (which was on a TD drive anyway) and a dropped interception are desparate apologists looking for any excuse they can find. Missing the forest for the trees is what that is. Desperate apologists for an excuse? That's funny Sorry but 5 dropped passes can make a difference in one ball game. Kickers missing FGs in some games makes a difference too (but you didn't mention that). There really is a lot of action that happens out on a football field. Quote Link to comment
admo Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 More talented than Wes Lunt or even? Here's what Lee Barfknect thinks of losing to West Lunt and the Fighting Illini. http://www.omaha.com/huskers/barfknecht-new-verse-same-old-song-at-nebraska-no-excuses/article_eb4aec61-62df-5d85-b0a7-9a3dbe599c16.html Not going to read because I really don't care. Perhaps if this person was on the message board I could ask him. I was actually asking you. Quote Link to comment
TheSker Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Sorry but 5 dropped passes can make a difference in one ball game.. Of course they can. I'd bet Tom Osborne would be among the first to agree and might even say that's why the ground game is so important. Pass that message on to Riley. Osborne already tried to. Quote Link to comment
True2tRA Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Is this based on recruiting rankings of the incoming class when they sign? Or is it based upon the number of guys that are actually still on the team or panned out? I mean, if they're just including committed classes, is that really an accurate way to do things? We have a lot of guys that were Pelini recruits that never made an impact when Pelini was here, and haven't been impact players in Riley's tenure yet. A bunch of them aren't even on the team anymore. Obviously though, if we're talking about Riley doing less with more in THIS SEASON then it's only fair to judge him on what he actually has? Or is this just another one of those things we come up with to dump on Mike Riley....? Mauro Bondi Joe Carter Max Pirman Charles Jackson Aaron Green David Santos Zach Sterup Bubba Starling Ryan Klachko Tyler Moore Aaron Curry Corey Whitaker Leroy Alexander Jared Afalava Avery Moss Thomas Brown Paul Thurston Drake Martinez Trevell Dixon Dwayne Johnson Boaz Joseph Matt Finnin Ernest Suttles David Knevel D.J. Singleton Adam Taylor Zach Hannon Johnny Stanton Gabriel Miller Kevin Gladney Greg Hart Courtney Love A.J. Natter Deandre Wills A.J. Bush Sedrick King Jariah Tolbert Joe Keels Jaevon Walton Robert Lockhart Peyton Newell Lorenzo Stewart Monte Harrison Zack Darlington Trai Mosley Tanner Farmer I mean.....that's a lot of names. Those are all committed players from 2011-2014 that have not really been impactful here at Nebraska. Riley's only been here 10 months. Are all those let downs Rileys fault too? Get f'ing' real. Don't bury this Huskerboard, like what tends to happen here. I'd like an answer to this from the OP. This whole thing seems flawed. Quote Link to comment
True2tRA Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Is this based on recruiting rankings of the incoming class when they sign? Or is it based upon the number of guys that are actually still on the team or panned out? I mean, if they're just including committed classes, is that really an accurate way to do things? We have a lot of guys that were Pelini recruits that never made an impact when Pelini was here, and haven't been impact players in Riley's tenure yet. A bunch of them aren't even on the team anymore. Obviously though, if we're talking about Riley doing less with more in THIS SEASON then it's only fair to judge him on what he actually has? Or is this just another one of those things we come up with to dump on Mike Riley....? Mauro Bondi Joe Carter Max Pirman Charles Jackson Aaron Green David Santos Zach Sterup Bubba Starling Ryan Klachko Tyler Moore Aaron Curry Corey Whitaker Leroy Alexander Jared Afalava Avery Moss Thomas Brown Paul Thurston Drake Martinez Trevell Dixon Dwayne Johnson Boaz Joseph Matt Finnin Ernest Suttles David Knevel D.J. Singleton Adam Taylor Zach Hannon Johnny Stanton Gabriel Miller Kevin Gladney Greg Hart Courtney Love A.J. Natter Deandre Wills A.J. Bush Sedrick King Jariah Tolbert Joe Keels Jaevon Walton Robert Lockhart Peyton Newell Lorenzo Stewart Monte Harrison Zack Darlington Trai Mosley Tanner Farmer I mean.....that's a lot of names. Those are all committed players from 2011-2014 that have not really been impactful here at Nebraska. Riley's only been here 10 months. Are all those let downs Rileys fault too? Get f'ing' real. Mavric? I am curious about this whole list. Would you be able to answer any of those questions. Quote Link to comment
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