New Orleans

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People that live in poverty and commit crimes need to change their mindsets before any of it will get better. We can sit here and discuss ways to improve the situations but it wont matter or work if the affected people don't want to change. Those that commit crimes, such as robbery, do so because they probably find it easier to obtain money that way instead of working.

People in poverty commit petty crimes to eat. Eating is not a "mindset".

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Now it's BP's fault.

 

 

This is getting good.

So BP bears no blame? Well, just ask all the small fisherman along the gulf coast. Many haven't recovered.

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Globalization is a net win for everyone. Because it raises the dreaded bottom that people supposedly race for.

 

 

The millions of Trump followers disagree.

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Now it's BP's fault.

 

 

This is getting good.

So BP bears no blame? Well, just ask all the small fisherman along the gulf coast. Many haven't recovered.

How many of them were driving economic growth in inner city New Orleans? How many are now driving the crime stats?

 

The parties responsible for th spill should absolutely pay for the damage they caused (and they are) but that's not relate to this topic.

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Globalization is a net win for everyone. Because it raises the dreaded bottom that people supposedly race for.

 

 

The millions of Trump followers disagree.

I know. I just said that. In the next post.

 

Trump and sanders followers are equally misguided on this point, but it's not surprising because both candidates are nothing more than populists.

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Bernie sanders and trump are quite similar in economics, at least based on their websites, if not the tone of their rhetoric. Neither has any actual policies or methods to achieve their pie in the sky isolationist policies though.

Trump wants to decrease corporate taxes and keep labor cheap to make industry stay, or slap on tariffs and what not.

 

Bernie generally wants to go "FDR" on the corporations, Wall St., and millionaire/billionaire class in general. Stop the free ride. His plans are laid out on his website.

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People that live in poverty and commit crimes need to change their mindsets before any of it will get better. We can sit here and discuss ways to improve the situations but it wont matter or work if the affected people don't want to change. Those that commit crimes, such as robbery, do so because they probably find it easier to obtain money that way instead of working.

But what if there are no jobs? And what if you have never seen anyone work? What if your grandpas in jail, and you live with six half siblings and a mom who is again pregnant? Here is no joke, first hand experience: as I've stated, I go into a lot of homes for my job. I assess students for special education services and coordinate the evaluations. Within the last several years, SSDI has started using our Sped Evals to qualify kids for SSI checks. For example, a kid with a Language-Artic issues receives a monthly check for $750. I know, she showed me the check. Needless to say, word is out and parental request for Sped Evals has skyrocketed. However, I love building relationships and trust with these families and in return, they tell me things that would shock you. Like, men are taking monthly cuts from these service checks given to their kids(by multiple women) Kind of like a residual stud fee. I witnessed the "dad" show up to the house to collect. Maybe it's not a nationally prevalent problem but it's sure wrecked havoc on our community.

 

My point is I don't think your going to fix this by saying crime is bad and go get a job.

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Globalization is a net win for everyone. Because it raises the dreaded bottom that people supposedly race for.

 

 

The millions of Trump followers disagree.

I know. I just said that. In the next post.

 

Trump and sanders followers are equally misguided on this point, but it's not surprising because both candidates are nothing more than populists.

 

Yeah, well globalist economics is not a "win" for the working class anywhere, FTMP. It is a race to the bottom, I'm not sure what world you're living in. I think it was Volkswagon that opened some plants in Alabama or something because of the cheaper US labor there relative to the highly unionized labor in Germany. When our labor is cheaper than, say, China, we have big time problems.

[cornographic]

 

 

Now it's BP's fault.

 

 

This is getting good.

So BP bears no blame? Well, just ask all the small fisherman along the gulf coast. Many haven't recovered.

How many of them were driving economic growth in inner city New Orleans? How many are now driving the crime stats?

 

The parties responsible for th spill should absolutely pay for the damage they caused (and they are) but that's not relate to this topic.

 

Oh, I thought they ate seafood in NOLA, the French Qtr, etc.

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And this talk of putting teenagers to work as a fix to poverty, is ludicrous But it would maybe limit their energy to be out committing crimes. But so would school and school activities.

Nobody is putting kids to work that don't want to work or that their family doesn't want them to work. And, nobody is talking about forcing them to do labor that is dangerous or harmful to them.

 

The bolded part is true though. If the kid is at a job, he isn't out causing trouble. And, he is also learning a skill and how to work in a work environment. School activities only go so far in a poverty area. If the household needs food on the table and the adults in the family don't have jobs and have turned to selling drugs, guess what the kid is going to be doing? He isn't going to be going to the Chess club meeting. He is going to be working a street corner somewhere selling more meth.

 

Now...take that family and allow them to work in a legitimate job and also allow that kid to do the same (within appropriate parameters) and it could be a win win.

 

Industrial labor is generally dangerous, you know, that's why they have OSHA and is also why workers tend to want to form unions.

 

Sooo....it's dangerous for a 10 -12 year old to wash dishes, mop a floor, stuff envelopes, run a cash register, mow grass....

 

I thought you were talking about industrial jobs. Well, your 10-12 year olds are gonna have a helluva time competing with adult latinos for those restaurant kitchen jobs. Also hard for me to see 10-12 year olds doing menial office work, sorry, just me. Children of that age used to be reimbursed for various "chores" around the house, etc, allowance--that's when dad a a better paying job, I guess.

 

And cash register! Really, you're going to let a 10 year old run the cash register @ your business? Lol, c'mon!

 

Some of those hard core Christian groups in KY and such advocate for the return of chatel slavery--for the whole family. "Makin' Mur'ca great agin'!"

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Bernie sanders and trump are quite similar in economics, at least based on their websites, if not the tone of their rhetoric. Neither has any actual policies or methods to achieve their pie in the sky isolationist policies though.

Trump wants to decrease corporate taxes and keep labor cheap to make industry stay, or slap on tariffs and what not.

 

Bernie generally wants to go "FDR" on the corporations, Wall St., and millionaire/billionaire class in general. Stop the free ride. His plans are laid out on his website.

No, they aren't laid out there. I've looked. And he couldn't answer the direct questions when asked.

 

Everyone, even the current administration, thinks we should lower corporate taxes.

 

Both Bernie and trump are anti-immigration and international trade. And that's a sad perspective.

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And this talk of putting teenagers to work as a fix to poverty, is ludicrous But it would maybe limit their energy to be out committing crimes. But so would school and school activities.

Nobody is putting kids to work that don't want to work or that their family doesn't want them to work. And, nobody is talking about forcing them to do labor that is dangerous or harmful to them.

 

The bolded part is true though. If the kid is at a job, he isn't out causing trouble. And, he is also learning a skill and how to work in a work environment. School activities only go so far in a poverty area. If the household needs food on the table and the adults in the family don't have jobs and have turned to selling drugs, guess what the kid is going to be doing? He isn't going to be going to the Chess club meeting. He is going to be working a street corner somewhere selling more meth.

 

Now...take that family and allow them to work in a legitimate job and also allow that kid to do the same (within appropriate parameters) and it could be a win win.

Industrial labor is generally dangerous, you know, that's why they have OSHA and is also why workers tend to want to form unions.

Sooo....it's dangerous for a 10 -12 year old to wash dishes, mop a floor, stuff envelopes, run a cash register, mow grass....

I thought you were talking about industrial jobs. Well, your 10-12 year olds are gonna have a helluva time competing with adult latinos for those restaurant kitchen jobs. Also hard for me to see 10-12 year olds doing menial office work, sorry, just me. Children of that age used to be reimbursed for various "chores" around the house, etc, allowance--that's when dad a a better paying job, I guess.

 

And cash register! Really, you're going to let a 10 year old run the cash register @ your business? Lol, c'mon!

If they can't compete, why do we need laws to keep them out?

 

Like OSHA, we are spending money on regulations to protect against horrors that the market has already extinguished.

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Globalization is a net win for everyone. Because it raises the dreaded bottom that people supposedly race for.

 

 

The millions of Trump followers disagree.

I know. I just said that. In the next post.

 

Trump and sanders followers are equally misguided on this point, but it's not surprising because both candidates are nothing more than populists.

Yeah, well globalist economics is not a "win" for the working class anywhere, FTMP. It is a race to the bottom, I'm not sure what world you're living in. I think it was Volkswagon that opened some plants in Alabama or something because of the cheaper US labor there relative to the highly unionized labor in Germany. When our labor is cheaper than, say, China, we have big time problems.

Why??! That's a great thing. It'd be great if all economies in the world developed to the level of the US's.

 

That would also put downward pressure on the 1% salaries too.

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Bernie sanders and trump are quite similar in economics, at least based on their websites, if not the tone of their rhetoric. Neither has any actual policies or methods to achieve their pie in the sky isolationist policies though.

Trump wants to decrease corporate taxes and keep labor cheap to make industry stay, or slap on tariffs and what not.

 

Bernie generally wants to go "FDR" on the corporations, Wall St., and millionaire/billionaire class in general. Stop the free ride. His plans are laid out on his website.

No, they aren't laid out there. I've looked. And he couldn't answer the direct questions when asked.

 

Everyone, even the current administration, thinks we should lower corporate taxes.

 

Both Bernie and trump are anti-immigration and international trade. And that's a sad perspective.

 

Everyone at the top wants to lower corporate taxes. Alot times they aren't paying much in taxes, as most recently revealed by the Panama Papers. But you can't have public services and infrastructure that are worth a damn unless the corporations pay more in taxes for said use of infrastructure, etc.

 

Bernie is not the bolded, don't know where you're getting your info. And yes, he does lay out his plans on his website, but he's not going to lay out the extensive, in detail stuff, nobody would read it. But for example, he wants to expand SS by lifting the payroll tax cap on those earning $250K/yr. He wants to fund public college tuition via a Tobin tax(on Wall St. speculation)--not a new idea. I guess the question here is why does everybody who is not a Bernie Fan keep defending the wealth of the filthy rich who have far too much wealth than is humanly necessary and refuse to pay there fair share for all the benefits they receive under the US capitalistic system? At the same time, they demonize the /working class/poor and the increase of a minimum wage that has been lagging big time for decades.(rhetorical question)

 

People generally view the post FDR decade or 2 as the "best times" economically in the US, and they were, because the rich were paying more their fair share. But that has all eroded, especially since Reagan got in there. The rich want it all.

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I would read it. Please post anything substantive that you found there.

 

And his policies are absolutely anti-immigrant. He just wouldn't build a physical wall.

 

FDR is mythologized but he was awful for the overall development of the economy and poor people outside of the special interests who were paid off by his policies.