ScarletRevival Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 6 hours ago, knapplc said: This whole "earn it" thing is nonsense. That's an odd take, since that was supposedly how the Blackshirt tradition started. "...the black pullovers were given only to first-team defenders, as a way to motivate those on the lower units. Initially, the black pullovers were distributed each day at practice and collected afterward. A player might have a black pullover one day and a gray one the next. They had to continually be earned." https://huskers.com/news/2018/1/26/211694410.aspx 3 Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 Just now, ScarletRevival said: That's an odd take, since that was supposedly how the Blackshirt tradition started. "...the black pullovers were given only to first-team defenders, as a way to motivate those on the lower units. Initially, the black pullovers were distributed each day at practice and collected afterward. A player might have a black pullover one day and a gray one the next. They had to continually be earned." https://huskers.com/news/2018/1/26/211694410.aspx The team started the season with Blackshirts, per that article. Quote Link to comment
ScarletRevival Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, knapplc said: The team started the season with Blackshirts, per that article. Where does it say that? What part of "They continually had to be earned" did you not understand? 3 Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 Just now, ScarletRevival said: Where does it say that? What part of "They continually had to be earned" did you not understand? I don't care if a player gains or loses their Blackshirt during the year. I care that they hand them out before the season starts and they don't perpetuate this circus, which breeds threads like this every year. Whether a player gets moved up or down from starter to backup throughout the year is an internal matter. 2 Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, ScarletRevival said: Where does it say that? My bad. Wrong Mike Babcock story. They handed out Blackshirts in the Spring when the tradition started. https://hailvarsity.com/football/two-platoon-football-one-way-or-another-ushered-in-the-blackshirts/ Quote Link to comment
ScarletRevival Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, knapplc said: I care that they hand them out before the season starts That's your opinion which is fine, but according to that article the tradition didn't start with the first team defense having them to start the year. 2 Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 Just now, ScarletRevival said: That's your opinion which is fine, but according to that article the tradition didn't start with the first team defense having them to start the year. It did. Read the link I provided. Babcock reported it in another story. Quote Link to comment
ScarletRevival Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, knapplc said: It did. Read the link I provided. Babcock reported it in another story. I don't see it. The best I come up (from the Babcock account): "Whenever they were first used in practice, the black mesh vests were handed out at the start and turned in afterward. On occasion, they could even be changed during practice." 1 Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, ScarletRevival said: I don't see it. The best I come up (from the Babcock account): "Whenever they were first used in practice, the black mesh vests were handed out at the start and turned in afterward. On occasion, they could even be changed during practice." Here you go Quote A newspaper account indicated the team was divided before the start of spring drills in 1964, half working under Kelly and Jim Ross, half under Corgan and Carl Selmer. Also according to the account, black and gold scrimmage vests would be used by the first- and second-team defensive units, respectively, red and green vests used by the first- and second-team offensive units. Quote Link to comment
ScarletRevival Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, knapplc said: Here you go That said "spring drills" not prior to the first game of the season in the fall. Regardless, both articles say that the Blackshirts could be earned or taken away in practice. 2 Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 1 minute ago, ScarletRevival said: That said "spring drills" not prior to the first game of the season in the fall. Spring comes before Fall. 1 Quote Link to comment
ScarletRevival Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Just now, knapplc said: Spring comes before Fall. When is the first game of the season played? 1 1 Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 Just now, ScarletRevival said: When is the first game of the season played? What's your contention here? That under Devaney, they divided the defense into four groups in the Spring, the top unit was the Blackshirts, but in Fall camp they took the Blackshirts away for... reasons? Or whatever? If you have some source that shows that, please share. Quote Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 5 hours ago, WyoHusker56 said: They should just do what they decide to do as a team and use it the way they want to regardless of what media or fans think. It means more for the players than anyone else (regardless of how obsessive we all are) and they should make it what they want. My vote for best post in the thread 2 Quote Link to comment
WyoHusker56 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 6 hours ago, Archy1221 said: My vote for best post in the thread Thank you haha Quote Link to comment
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