Cornbred Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 1 hour ago, blinky said: And therein lies the rub. Nice! Quote Link to comment
Lorewarn Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 4 hours ago, Cornbred said: We don't have time for if's and maybe's. That's the best way for us to guarantee that we will continue to struggle - being too chickens#!t scared with PTSD to take a chance. Bob Stoops was an if/maybe for OU. Kirby Smart was an if/maybe for UGA. Saban was an if/maybe for LSU. Dabo was an if/maybe for Clemson. Luke Fickell, Ryan Day, PJ Fleck, Lincoln Riley, the list goes on and on. 3 hours ago, Cornbred said: I think the qualifications of a successful coach are quantifiable. Past results are usually indicative of future results. Except for all the times they aren't in coaching, which is....all the time. Rich Rod at WVU compared to Michigan and everywhere else. Dan Hawkins at Boise and then CU compared to Chris Petersen at Boise and then Washington Mack Brown at Texas compared to Mack Brown at USC Les Miles at Okie State compared to Les Miles at LSU Les Miles at LSU compared to Kansas Charlie Strong at Louisville compared to Texas Bret Bielema at Wisconsin compared to Arkansas Chip Kelly at Oregon compared to UCLA 5 Quote Link to comment
Red Silk Smoking Jacket Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 7 hours ago, Lorewarn said: That's the best way for us to guarantee that we will continue to struggle - being too chickens#!t scared with PTSD to take a chance. Bob Stoops was an if/maybe for OU. Kirby Smart was an if/maybe for UGA. Saban was an if/maybe for LSU. Dabo was an if/maybe for Clemson. Luke Fickell, Ryan Day, PJ Fleck, Lincoln Riley, the list goes on and on. No it doesn't. The list is extremely short compared to all the if/maybes that don't hit. And PJ Fleck? You serious? Exhibit A of how short that list really is if you're having to include PJ Fleck to make your point. Quote Except for all the times they aren't in coaching, which is....all the time. Rich Rod at WVU compared to Michigan and everywhere else. Dan Hawkins at Boise and then CU compared to Chris Petersen at Boise and then Washington Mack Brown at Texas compared to Mack Brown at USC Les Miles at Okie State compared to Les Miles at LSU Les Miles at LSU compared to Kansas Charlie Strong at Louisville compared to Texas Bret Bielema at Wisconsin compared to Arkansas Chip Kelly at Oregon compared to UCLA Not one of those guys has even close to Urban's resume. If Urban wasn't an option, then you can start talking about the best of the if/maybes, because that's all we'd have to chose from. But Urban's an outlier by a long stretch so none of your arguments apply to him at all. Quote Link to comment
TonkaSker Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 9 hours ago, Lorewarn said: Except for all the times they aren't in coaching, which is....all the time. Rich Rod at WVU compared to Michigan and everywhere else. Dan Hawkins at Boise and then CU compared to Chris Petersen at Boise and then Washington Mack Brown at Texas compared to Mack Brown at USC Les Miles at Okie State compared to Les Miles at LSU Les Miles at LSU compared to Kansas Charlie Strong at Louisville compared to Texas Bret Bielema at Wisconsin compared to Arkansas Chip Kelly at Oregon compared to UCLA Urban to Jacksonville. Quote Link to comment
The Whale Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share Posted October 24, 2022 On 9/21/2022 at 6:51 AM, Red Silk Smoking Jacket said: No it doesn't. The list is extremely short compared to all the if/maybes that don't hit. And PJ Fleck? You serious? Exhibit A of how short that list really is if you're having to include PJ Fleck to make your point. Not one of those guys has even close to Urban's resume. If Urban wasn't an option, then you can start talking about the best of the if/maybes, because that's all we'd have to chose from. But Urban's an outlier by a long stretch so none of your arguments apply to him at all. Agreed. Quote Link to comment
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