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Not to dog the man, but except for a couple vs Mich St, I'm having a hard time recalling 19 for Kinnie.............

Able was I, ere I saw......... Ann Arbor? A man, a plan, a canal, panama

The basic visiting team routine.............score early and take the crowd out of it............! By the way, did anyone else happen to notice that the official seating capacity is 109901.....................A PERFECT NUMERICAL PALINDROME !! Now I'm excited !!

Corso is scouting out a new haberdasher................

The reason we haven't had a budget in almost three years is directly tied to use of the filibuster by the senate minority (Republicans). Publicly they say it's a travesty that congress cannot even pass a budget, but privately they don't want to pass a budget. Why? Because in lieu of a budget the basic functions of government are funded with individual continuing resolutions, which essentially continue funding at the previous fiscal year's level. This makes it much easier to cut spending without an actual vote to cut (usually unpopular), and it allows specific funding, like public broadcasting and planned parenthood to be targeted when it's politically convenient. It's turned the entire budgetary process into a circus that is good politics in the short term. Do you have any supporting facts dealing with how often a budget was even presented (let alone voted upon).........??

I dont know that coaches/players would want a late season bye, even as much as they could use the rest. As a team youre in a rhythm and a routine of playing every week. A bye could slow you down and throw off timing a bit. I always thought Nebraska and oklahoma/Colorado looked a little sluggish for a quarter or so when each would have a bye before the Thanksgiving day. It seemed like the players took a little longer to get to game speed. That is so true.................(it may have even impacted Penn St last week, but hard to know with the other stuff swirling)..............It is similar to Bowl games where the team you get after a layoff often is not the same team you had at the end of the season. Especially true of timing offenses.......both heavy passing and our old option teams.

"Chief Deputy Tom Reddin said Pinkel's name did not appear on the Boone County Sheriff's Department 0700 report due to a computer glitch." Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha..........................what a fortuitous computer glitch.........................(any of those ever happen to anyone else?) Oh well, just getting in his prep work for the SEC..............

When you start getting stomach jitters on Wednesday.......................you just KNOW it's gonna be a great game....................

I think the reason for the BigTen getting a false sense of being over-rated is because their bowl tie-ins don't do them any promise. Cap1 bowl vs SEC, Outback Bowl vs SEC, etc... Excellent point...........

Tulsa articulates the same philosophy but there is never any problem w/ him is there? Yes Yos did a great mockery in our last/only run in here...where I said he can show me the articles he was talking about so we could proceed or not show them and we could stop. He choose to stop. As I stated before Yos can be a productive and respectful poster when he wants to or at times as he has in this thread early on, but it's not often enough...which obviously is why the mod brought it up. I was the head mod and only mod that ever suspended people during his/your time on HP. I'll I did by saying you were talking about me was let a little sunlight in to HB people. It has nothing to do w/ how I see myself. Your reply is quickly imploding... It's like intro at the Improv where Craig Gass comes on to tell the audience to have fun...laugh..etc but there is to be no talking and gabbing it up during the show. Then he says something like...I know some of you are probably saying..."well he doesn't sound fun..." ya, because you were the ones that were going to be talking it up during the show...I don't give a xxxx. Well, I guess I'm just missing that analogy............. But your intermediary post that appeared between our jousting.................about us respecting this board and not dragging past history over here..........I totally concur...................(and for the record.........you and I did have a long, but mostly respectful dialogue over many issues in the past); in fact I'd venture to say this exchange is as sharp as any that ever occurred. So out of respect for our new environment, I'm glad to again take you on as a worthy (but mostly incorrect) foil.............

I don't think I mentioned the terms of use. So why are you threatening me? Because your schtick is wearing thin. With many people. I was unaware that I could be banned for disagreeing with people. Tell you what...I will voluntarily stop posting here. Although he certainly doesn’t need me to defend him, I firmly believe If Yossarian stops posting voluntarily or is coerced into stopping, I submit the discussion boards will be the loser because of it. Most of the posters on this political site seem to veer left and the few conservatives on here are generally shouted down. Certainly no one learns anything by only surrounding themselves by yes-men. (For instance, I almost NEVER agree with Sub Husker, but find him to be intelligent and thorough in his arguments). It makes me re-think my positions. (Of course, I still believe he is mostly 180 degrees wrong….) I’m trying to offer an objective analysis here, but certainly one of the purposes of this board ought to be the vigorous airing of differing viewpoints. Both sides are passionate about what they believe and so some directness is going to happen. I am confused about the statement that many are getting tired of Yos’s “schtick”. Was a vote taken? I would submit a number are also tired of the over-used and supposedly clever “derp”. Are we threatening to ban those that continually annoy with that sophomoric invective? I am really surprised that this board has seemingly regressed into an egalitarian “club”, where only the like-minded are encouraged to debate. For what it’s worth, I witnessed plenty of that for years on the Pedia board, where the moderator resembled a puffed-up version of Barney Fife and banned or threatened everyone who dared challenge him. Surely, this is a more adult forum for discussion. I have read the rules posted and find it hard to believe the conservative members are the sole instigators of “name calling”. I would argue we need MORE discussion and rigorous debate. Driving articulate posters off because we don’t agree with their passion or stance is so counter-productive. Just my two cents. So just because he's represents a different side than most on the board he should be allowed to act anyway he wants? The forum should conform to him instead him conforming the forum? His "side" can be represented on here...even by him..in a way that isn't virtually always in a wise ass, trolling, destructive way. It's virtually always a game w/ Yos where no honest/objective discussion is even attempted or wanted. The proof is in his postings that we call have or can see. It's why I eventually banned him from HP. His type of posting would fit in well on a Hannity or Coulter forum, but not much anywhere else. It's just not worth it to have him around IF that's how he's going to act. At times he's a good poster, but it's very few and far between. and "no one" wants someone that is constantly going to toe the line..waggling his toe over it...then hiding behind technicalities of the "rules" when called out. A good forum should be about respectful discussion that's productive. Sure it may get away from that from time to time, but it should be the exception w/ people and not the norm. Some may not be aware that I'm the Barney Fife type mod from HP you're talking about...and if that is your thoughts of how I moderated...or think I'm the one being unreasonable then or now in this reply than you are part of the problem and not the solution. Well first of all, I categorically reject your assertion that he is a wise ass troll......................he just articulates a philosophy that is unacceptable to your world view (might we say that you find intolerant..........no we can't because that label is reserved for conservatives). I enjoy that fact that you can't intimidate him and he often responds in a manner that makes a mockery out of your specious arguments. Also, I was careful to NOT name anyone specifically as Barney...........but you sure jumped into his trousers pretty rapidly......................but if that's how you see yourself......................well.................?? To the rest of your point........................and in your typical arrogant certitude....................."if I think you are being unreasonable..................then I'm part of the problem". Wow. Just Wow. Basically stating that if anyone would dare accuse YOU (you're assumption, by the way) of being unreasonable..................then they are part of the problem. Maybe you should read that line again and see if it doesn't encapsulate what a lot of folks had a problem with.................

I don't think I mentioned the terms of use. So why are you threatening me? Because your schtick is wearing thin. With many people. I was unaware that I could be banned for disagreeing with people. Tell you what...I will voluntarily stop posting here. Although he certainly doesn’t need me to defend him, I firmly believe If Yossarian stops posting voluntarily or is coerced into stopping, I submit the discussion boards will be the loser because of it. Most of the posters on this political site seem to veer left and the few conservatives on here are generally shouted down. Certainly no one learns anything by only surrounding themselves by yes-men. (For instance, I almost NEVER agree with Sub Husker, but find him to be intelligent and thorough in his arguments). It makes me re-think my positions. (Of course, I still believe he is mostly 180 degrees wrong….) I’m trying to offer an objective analysis here, but certainly one of the purposes of this board ought to be the vigorous airing of differing viewpoints. Both sides are passionate about what they believe and so some directness is going to happen. I am confused about the statement that many are getting tired of Yos’s “schtick”. Was a vote taken? I would submit a number are also tired of the over-used and supposedly clever “derp”. Are we threatening to ban those that continually annoy with that sophomoric invective? I am really surprised that this board has seemingly regressed into an egalitarian “club”, where only the like-minded are encouraged to debate. For what it’s worth, I witnessed plenty of that for years on the Pedia board, where the moderator resembled a puffed-up version of Barney Fife and banned or threatened everyone who dared challenge him. Surely, this is a more adult forum for discussion. I have read the rules posted and find it hard to believe the conservative members are the sole instigators of “name calling”. I would argue we need MORE discussion and rigorous debate. Driving articulate posters off because we don’t agree with their passion or stance is so counter-productive. Just my two cents.

examples.........??

I agree that there is now a bond..................... But I wonder, if indeed, some sort of tradition would eventuate....... (like meeting in the middle of the field )..................that it might become an awkward reminder for the Penn St folks annually about what got this started.......??

What is it about Doc's teams that they ALWAYS have a 10 minute dry scoring run in games......................usually unable to overcome...............it has to be something in attitude/agressiveness/philosophy...........?? Maddening............!

For years I believed the B!G was one of the more over-rated conferences and I enjoyed watching them get their a$$es handed to them regularly in the post season. I still maintain this is not a pretty conference and it won’t be in any NC conversations this year, but it IS a slugfest (like we had been warned). And, I’ve got to say, I’m enjoying the parity and challenges of being forced to bring it every week. (Exhibit # 1….see Northwestern). I recognize this probably sounds like a death bed conversion since we are now a member, and maybe some of it is. But the fact is, that for the style of football we are known for, and like to play……………this is a very good fit. Maybe even better than we anticipated. Agree………….or no……………??

Thanks for posting...............

Must tackle in space....................

Still.................if it's 3rd and 8 in the 4th qt at the Big House..................I trust Marlowe more than Kinnie right now............

I'm fine with naming the trophy because "Big Ten Conference Champion Trophy" just sounds weak to me considering how much history we have collectively. That said I hate everything about the divisions...the rivalries, the names, the alignment. In my mind go East West and to hell with the consequences. It'll balance eventually. I know you all didn't feel that way in the Big XII but I think there's evidence it could work. Look at the SEC. Instead we're now like the ACC, where the average football fan can't name the divisions and probably doesn't care.... Bingo.............

Or Sirles..................although he is a continuing spokesman/ quote machine................

Fair enough......................I agree we can all use more wit and satire and cleverness........................... I was responding to the implication that Coach Brown was defined more by football success than by the impact he has had on young men.............

Gotta respectfully disagree with you on this........................Watson was uncanny about finding something that DID work..............and then inexplicably going AWAY from it.........(perhaps to prove his OWN creativity??)

Ah………..perhaps an ill-fated and unsuccessful attempt at cleverness fails to distinguish between Ron Brown - the coach…… and Ron Brown - the man………..??