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I think this is news to a lot of us who have only ever followed this situation superficially and with the understanding of "Avery has done everything they asked of him, we'll know more soon". Jay Moore included. I think that Willie is spot on. All we ever heard was the "he is doing everything" line, but where was that coming from? Moss's side. The only thing that UNL owed him was a chance to appeal on a certain date. And he did that and it was denied fairly quickly (5 business days). Rightly or wrongly, sexual assault on college campuses has become a hot button issue lately, see Michigan, FSU, Oregon, and even that bogus Virgina story. The UNL administration did in their eyes what they thought was best. I can't really fault them for that. The bottom line is that Avery screwed up. We wouldn't have a 7+page thread if he wasn't a very promising player with NFL-caliber size/skills. I hope that he has learned from this episode (from his comments it sounds like this is true) and is able to make the most of his life going forward. If he was told that prior to the winter break that he was going to have a decision (which he has stated several times), that is way more than 5 business days. I'm sure they got back to him within 5 days after the break but they told him they would get back to him prior to the break, that is a big deal and completely inconsiderate and frankly unprofessional. Maybe I hold our administration to a little higher standard than others on this board? There is a 7+ page thread on here because this is a husker football message board, so most people on here know who Avery Moss is. Most people don't care about his NFL ability, people care because he is a well known public figure in Nebraska. It just so happens that Husker football is followed more in Nebraska than anything else. I could care less if he ever played another down for Nebraska, but what I do believe in is treating people right. At least give the kid an opportunity to go elsewhere. Arturo knew in the summer, that the previous IX coordinator's stipulations wouldn't be enough for Avery to enroll in the spring. So if you are heavily associated with the institution of education (should be empathetic to the mission of educating young people), why in the world would you not tell this kid that there was no chance he would be able to enroll in the spring and allow him to find an opportunity elsewhere. Instead, Arturo strung Avery along, for not only fall semester, but also spring semester (too late to enroll elsewhere). Avery did something dumb for one night, miscommunication on another. Arturo was negligent for someone of his stature and position in Nebraska's education system not for a day or two, but 5 to 6 months. That is unacceptable.

Yes if you do something stupid, you open yourself to being caught for something and being prosecuted and reprimanded for such actions. However, everyone and I mean everyone is involved in stupid things. It is in our Human nature to make mistakes and to learn from them. He has put everything on hold and was told he would be welcomed back. It is unfair, because this new title IX person had to of known there was nothing Avery could do to get back on campus and should have told him that from the get go and not give him the run around. What you may not be able to get in your thick skull, that people need to be treated with respect and appropriately, despite their shortcomings. Just because you get a speeding ticket (or several) despite the inherent "risk" speeders create on the public roads, doesn't validate an action to remove your ability to drive indefinitely. Leading Avery to believe he even had the slightest chance to come back when he didn't.... back in the summer (missing fall semester) then being untimely in the decision prior to this semester (was told decision would be made prior to christmas break) so he couldn't enroll anywhere else is completely inconsiderate and unprofessional (especially as a representative of the state and education in general). Just because Avery flashed his junk, doesn't validate the apathy and incompetency within how his case was managed. I'm not upset because he is a football player, I'm upset because our administration treats people like "poop."

I was going to say that Harbaugh doesn't even have any championships to show for but that wouldn't be completely true. At the University of San Diego he won two Pioneer Football League Championships (whatever that is) and of course won a NFC Championship at San Fran. On the flip side, Callahan was part of a Big ten Championship team at Wisconsin and has an AFC title at Oakland. I'm just saying...

Am I the only one that thinks increasing scholarships won't give blue bloods a decisive advantage? For one we are working with a larger pool of people from the days of 105 scholarships. The US has increased its population by 72 million people since 1990, nearly a 30% increase in population. A larger population increases the likelihood that more high school kids are playing football in the US. At the same time football and more specifically college football has also become exponentially more popular. It has a greater reach through not only our society but into foreign lands. So what we have is a swelling pool of talent, with the inability for all the schools to accomadate them. Look at NFL rosters and you may be surprised to see how many FCS players dot rosters. Secondly, the "lesser" schools like Purdue, Indiana, Oregon State, Kansas, etc. due to popularity of the sport have been able to cash in on conference affiliated tv deals. TV money has leveled the playing field more so than scholarship limits. I don't see schools like Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Alabama, Florida State, USC, etc. having recruiting advantages over Kentucky, Washington State, Illinois, Iowa etc. (at 105) because in all reality, these schools are on a pretty level field when it comes to finances and thus facilities and attracting recruits. Guys like Art Briles and Gary Patterson may have been easy to poach back in the 90's, not so much anymore. Patterson is getting paid 4 million and Briles over 3 and both will more than likely be getting raises for next year. Who would have thought that would even be possible in the 90's? Especially for programs like TCU and Baylor. Lower level schools like these used to be the training grounds and now they have become destinations. Its the money that has insured that new reality. Not an 85 scholarship limit.

Yeah, he probably shouldve. He obviously got out a few years too early. Remember when he flirted with the Seahawks and Michigan St job? Obviously he still had the itch and got out simply for loyalty to a friend in a promise. But god, could you imagine what transpires if he does remain and keeps the staff intact for another 3-5 years? That train was rollin by '97, and Solich lived off it for 4 years before it finally fell off. Imagine if TO stays and keeps it rollin and even possible improves. I also think Osborne retired when he did realizing there were some huge changes to the NCAA coming down the pipeline that would affect recruiting and such. I also think with the changes that had happened going from the Big 8 to the Big 12 were also a reason why retired. I completely agree with this. TO even spoke about it many times after he retired. The world was changing and he knew it. This is completely false, whether TO saw imminent changes in college football has nothing to do with his retirement. He made an agreement with Frank Solich, his longtime assistant that he would give him the reigns after the '96 season. I believe this was a plan set in stone before TO even won a National Championship. After the 96 season was completed he knew the '97 class would be pretty good and wanted to send the seniors out and "possibly" himself with a national title. The facts are, TO had health concerns, over time it became obvious that Frank Solich would be his successor although other programs were trying to lure him away from Lincoln. That is why he agreed to hand over the program to FS, long before he actually did. He groomed him so that nothing much would change in the program, unfortunately thats not how college football works. While TO may cite what allowed the program to be great, like being one step ahead of everyone else, there is no reason to assume that he wouldn't try to keep on the edge of innovation. It defined his tenure, his ability to change, adapt and transform. It was his health and fear of what he built might come crashing down, that led to his retirement. And, really what else did he have to prove? There is no doubt in my mind that TO would have put forth a John Wooden type of run if he had stayed, but his retirement would have left the program just a shadow of itself, regardless of when he retired.

Not if the sources were acquainted with Bielema's assistants and not someone from Riley's camp. Bielema was rumored to be a candidate. There would be every reason to be snooping around people close to his assistants trying to find out info. No one - literally no one - considered Riley a candidate. There would be no reason to be searing for leaks there. For some reason you really want this Bielema story to true Mavric. You just don't want to believe that SE could really have Mike Riley as his first choice for this job. I think Riley is precisely his first choice, it all fits IMO. Riley was on his radar from his days when they were searching for Bielema's replacement at Whisky. The fact that it is an out of the box/ not real conventional hire looks a lot like Barry's style also. No one was thinking Gary Anderson when he hired him, and it was a quick hire. Again I think it is a bold hire, not a safe hire, it could backfire or be great, but I don't think Riley was 2nd or 3rd choice. What I want to be true has no bearing. But I think the reports of it being true make more sense than Pearlman's denials. I didn't want him as our coach. But it lines up with Eichorst. I posted as much on Monday. They know each other from both being at Wisconsin. He's a veteran coach who definitely has championship caliber football experience. He is used to the B1G and being in a place where you don't always get the best recruits. People keep saying he was a headache to Alvarez but the only thing that seems to be a point of contention is salaries for assistants which Eichorst himself basically said aren't an issue here. I did also say in my post from Monday was the one odd thing was he just left Wisconsin two years ago and would now be moving again. But that says very little about whether we wanted him or not. If we were limiting our search to coaches who haven't changed jobs in the last 2-3 years or ones who we don't think there's any possibility that they'd look to leave sometime in the future, we're putting pretty significant handcuffs on ourselves. Whaaaat??? You think he lines up with who Eichorst wants, because he plays championship caliber football and knows the guy. At what point in anything that Eichorst has said to be what he was looking for... have been completely defined by playing championship football and knowing the guy??? You do realize that is borderline delusional to believe eichorst wanted that considering the characteristics he was looking for, that he clearly outlined on Sunday and were COMPLETELY reflected in the actual hire? Please ask yourself, would beilema accurately reflect the characteristics he was looking for on sunday? Seriously ask yourself that question.

And don't forget Snyder struggled before his little change of pace. 2004- (4-7) 2005 - (5-6). That's for those saying Riley is in a downward trajectory. Don't know if he is as good as Snyder as far as turning around a dead beat program but with support and lots of funds to spend on assistants, he can be better than Snyder...

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Looked like for the most part, the WR's were running the right routes... baby steps guys

Lucky to be 7-1, should be 6-2? As I recall McNeese came back to tie the game in the waning moments. If you are arguing that McNeese should have scored a TD there, Nebraska still goes ahead with ameers TD. There was nothing lucky about the outcome of the game other than us not coming ready to play. Yes you are being negative, glass half full pessimist. We should be 7-1 because we are 7-1... there has been no luck.

That offense had Helu and Burkhead in the backfield, Niles Paul, Brandon Kinnie, Menelik Holt, Currenski, Mike McNeill. Zac Lee could throw the rock when he was healthy, I think prior to the VT game or during he injured it and from then on, all his throws were off target. That made them one dimensional. That, and they were turnover prone. But injury free, aka the first game, they were pretty decent. Not that '09 FAU can be compared to '14 FAU.

Their secondary, lack of depth, and their qb getting shaken with any pressure, will keep them from being all that good. Their strength is obviously running the ball, got a couple good looking backs. They have a physical style of play which will fit right in with the B1G, but with obvious depth issues, you got to wonder how long they'll be able to keep it up. The game against Penn State in 2 weeks, should be a good one I think.

He listed turnovers as a major constituent in his formula which for most teams would produce a fairly reliable prediction, except for nebraska. We have been able to beat the odds there fairly reliably. Funny how he believes there won't be any competition in the west for the badgers.

SEC takes 10 of the Top 20 spots, yikes!

As far as recruiting goes I don't think playing local games is as important as it used to be. We have all taken notice that attendance has started to drop off everywhere. The most noticeable drop off in attendance has been evident in the youth. With TV and the internet, teams like nebraska do not need to play in Texas, California, Florida etc. to get exposure or get noticed. Even if we did it wouldn't add enough value to change anything. Going to an opponents stadium to watch us play is not going to sell them on nebraska (unless we have a fan takeover). And I don't see how giving your friends and family the opportunity to see you play once a year would put us over the top. If that was a deciding factor they wouldn't be going to nebraska no matter what conference we are in. For most, moving far away to a place where you don't know anyone can allow you to grow up and really find out who you are. We should be able to utilize that as a selling point, instead of looking at it as a hurdle.

A guy with a 3 ypc average, 52% completion percentage, the propensity to fumble, and 1 to 1 TD/INT ratio wouldn't be lethal in any offense. Yes I'm sure Crouch, Frost, Frazier etc. would have epic numbers in Becks offense too. You haven't seen glimpses of Tommy being a premiere option quarterback? With barely any repetitions, he has shown to be a pretty good one (as an option qb). I don't think applying his numbers in a offense that lacks identity and direction is relevant to how successful he would have been in a TO offense.

If Armstrong, was in a Tom Osborne offense, he would be lethal.

The abstracted football is too cute and overly redundant (everyone knows its a football stadium, no need to put a giant football perched above the big screen) which reads cheesy to me. Unless there are speakers in it, even then I still wouldn't be a fan of it.

I think it would be other kids picking on them. It generally takes kids a while to grow up and become "human." If they weren't being picked on about the huskers losing, then it would be about their big nose, buck teeth, big butt, short stature, last name, etc. kids are ruthless and will use anything to gain a little power over the other. The only difference for the coaches kids is that their relationship to the program can be a benefit on one day and detrimental on the next. Seeing that it is an asset 9 times out of 13/14, no one should be worried too much, unless the parents get involved.

There isn't one. But have you ever moved into a city, and said "hey, what's going on? What's there to do this weekend?" People transplant to Chicago and adopt the Cubs. Ditto for California and the Giants/Dodgers/Lakers/49ers/raiders. The Huskers are a thing in Lincoln. And if we're assuming NO ONE who's moving to Lincoln who doesn't have Nebraska ties (pretty ridiculous assumption) you would think maybe even some of them would buy tickets because hey, it's the thing to do. So I'm not really sure what you're arguing here. Kinda hard to go to them games when youre new in town when theyve been sold out for half a century. Cough cough We've now come full circle. Thread closed. You can attribute a significant amount of growth to Lincoln and maybe Omaha to people moving from rural nebraska, mostly the youth.. the youth that only knows mediocrity (husker football) and is a generation where money is tight. People are also just living longer, may not be a viable option (for this demographic tier) to make it to their seat. There are also people that ofcourse move from elsewhere into Lincoln (listed no. 5 by forbes for business and careers and top ten for growing entrepeneur centers). IF, you are a newb to lincoln and Husker football you are probably much more likely to ask for season tickets though. After all, you probably would be oblivious to our sell out streak. None the less, demand can not be completely explained by an increase in supply, or economic times, or laziness, or technology, or a frustrating product. Sure it might be viable for donors to pay for a few empty seats, but what happens when that turns into thousands of seats, there is a threshold for everyone, including donors. They aren't going to live forever, and they won't be willing to pay 1.8 million to 600,000 (30k-10k tickets) a game just to maintain the sell out streak. And, the future money will not be nearly as enthusiastic and determined about husker football as the past was/is. The huskers need to start winning on the big stage, they have been absent for a long time and that success that bought them the time is beginning to fade. However, the success that we enjoyed in the past is really unprecedented in all of college football, so I wouldn't expect that to return. Some day the sell out streak will end. Its only a matter time, like everything you know and love. The streak's life can be extended but not immortalized. They may need to: Go from bench seating to club seating to reduce capacity. Get rid of the incessant advertising (at least at home you don't necessarily have to endure that) Charge reasonable prices for food and beverages and create ways to pay wirelessly (w/o cash). Youth tickets at a much lower cost to encourage families to make it a traditional event and enable a strong fanabase for the future. MOST OF ALL win a championship every once in awhile, and don't get anihlated every year (once every 5 years is okay against a legit team), especially not on the home turf (should rarely happen, once in 20 years against a legit team).

Ole Miss and zzzz... Vandy? That's a struggle to even type out, only game that could be worse would be Miss State vs. Vandy. Three programs that are nothing without their conference affiliation. Ofcourse it could be a good game, just no one cares about it... like indiana vs. illinois with a lot less offense.

The next generation always sets a precedent for change and the generations before them will always fear their future and change for the worse. Unfortunately, this time it may in fact be true. I think our humanity is becoming reduced and its been building steam since the beginning of the industrial revolution, but now things are coming to a head. You are starting to see a generation of kids that predominantly grew up in single parent families, where there was lack of any other consistent form of support (extended family, teachers, neighbors, etc.) Also, boys have been shown to be most at risk of developmental issues that arise from the lack of a father figure in the household (majority of single families are constituted of the mother). But even in two parent families, again like no other time in our history both parents work leaving the development of the child in critical developmental years in the hands of child care providers (inadequate to say the least). You are seeing a generation that has learned their mentality, attitude, and ethics more from their peers than can be said of any generation prior to it. And guess what? The conditions that created their "selfishness" and lack of "compassion and accountability" started to become quite significant in the mid to late 80's (college kids in the mid to late 2000's) and has only worsened become more pervasive today. There is a lot more to it than that of course but I don't have enough time to thoroughly explain it. So I'll leave you with that.

You can only be stabbed so many times for so long before you completely bleed out and we've been getting stabbed year in year out for 12 years. The last thing this program needs is an apathetic fan base that has completely forgotten their roots. We are losing everything that made our program special, better act now before it is too late. You know Minnesota used to have quite the winning tradition too until things went down hill and they never got off the mat. Don't assume the same can't happen to us.

Saban's first five years as a coach (just the "big losses"): 1995 - Lost by 40 to NU, Lost by 14 to Iowa, Lost by 31 to Michigan St., Lost by 19 to LSU 1996 - Lost by 41 to NU, Lost by 10 to Louisville, Lost by 16 to Michigan, Lost by 38 to Stanford 1997 - Lost by 16 to Michigan, Lost by 24 to tOSU, Lost by 28 to Washington 1998 - Lost by 34 to Oregon, Lost by 12 to Michigan, Lost by 23 to Penn St. 1999 - Lost by 24 to Purdue, Lost by 30 to Wisconsin, Lost by 24 to Ohio St. So that's 3.4 big losses per year and 2.2 blowouts per year. Makes Callahan look not so bad. He also coached for Michigan State, a place acceptable for experimentation. When he went to a real program he began to bloom. Good coaches when matched up with the right program will be successful rather quickly. Bo doesn't seem to be a good match and this is not a place where experimentation should have been allowed, he might be successful elsewhere, but not here. Bo's trend has went from competing with equal or better talent, to only being able to compete with those with lesser talent and being blown out by everyone else. From fundamentally sound to no fundamentals at all. It's the regression that people care about. Right now we are only playing luck of the draw with our opponents. Luckily most of our opponents this year are less talented then us, which means we should be able to at least compete with them except for Michigan. We should all befriend Hoke right now, so they will take it easy on us in Ann Arbor.

Let's just say that these are actually kids, you actually think kids never get verbally assaulted. Middle school, Junior High, High School... any school. Kids are always constantly verbally assaulted, questioned, criticized by their peers and even adults before they even reach College. For some College is a transition to becoming an adult as they begin to slowly be given more adult responsibilities. However for most of America, the ones who don't go to college or simply don't finish high school, they start their adult hood much earlier, they either sink or swim. They don't get the benefit of slowly working towards becoming an adult. We all have the potential to become adult long before some societal age comes to fruition. It all depends on the situation we are in. I don't think there are too many people that would give the reigns of a multi-million dollar program to a kid. I don't think people pay 50-1000's of dollars to watch a kid they don't know, run around on a field. These "kids," the ones that sign the dotted line to play FBS fooball, put themselves into a situation that calls for them to be an adult. I don't think they enjoy being seen, or referred to as kids.