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I have seen no consistency in the recruiting of Pelini's staff. "Less coordinated plan?" It would seem to me that recruiting successfully has everything to do with a well coordinated plan.

I personally knew Irving Fryar. My son was a friend of his when he attended NU. Really sorry to read about this story. I always thought Irving was a stand up guy. Playing 17 years in the NFL is almost unbelievable. Wonder why he saw fit to want to commit a felony to pad his income? Sad story to say the least.

Out for the year. Time for someone else to step up to the plate. This is why player development is so very, very crucial and necessary.

Bring a tear to your eye-------for sure!

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You need to pay closer attention when you read these threads. That was not the intent of this tread, at all. I asked a very viable question as to the depth of our QB situation. We have three credible QBs at the moment. One, Martinez, is hurt and no one knows the extent of his injury or his prognosis. He is still walking around in a boot. If one or the other two get hurt, or both get hurt, what then? Who steps up? I doubt seriously that there is someone better in the fold other than Stanton. I did not say he needs to play now. So, just to clarify for you, do you think Stanton would get the nod?

No. Not unless Armstrong AND Kellog go down, Taylor gets WAY worse (he could play right now), Ryker Fyfe goes down. If all of that happened then maybe you look at Stanton over Broekmeir (SP?). Frazier and Berringer went down so the 3rd string guy came in yes, but Stanton is the 5 or more likely 6th guy this year. Big difference. I doubt seriously that Stanton is the #5 or #6 guy. My bet is that if push came to shove, Stanton would be in the top 3 mix.

Do any of you on this forum remember when Tommy Fraizer and Berringer both were hurt and the third string guy, by the name of Matt Turman, had to run the offense? And, this was done during Osborne's first championship season. This is why I asked the question about our current situation. If Martinez remains hurt (it is a possibility), and something happens to either Armstrong or Kellog, (or both) does Pelini risk the redshirt season of Stanton? What are the options? It was never my intent to imply that Armstrong or Kellog could not do the job.

Been at full health and practicing all fall camp. How is he doing? Will he be able to successfully compete with Armstrong? If Armstrong goes down and TM is still hobbled, will he get a chance to play? Heard he throws a nice ball. And no he will not play this year. He will RS. Kellog will play if Armstrong and TM go down Still need another QB! It gets pretty thin if we have two of the top three out.

Been at full health and practicing all fall camp. How is he doing? Will he be able to successfully compete with Armstrong? If Armstrong goes down and TM is still hobbled, will he get a chance to play?

I thought it was a bogus call all the way around. Looked to me like his helmet hit the ball first. As for the intent, it was not intentional he should not have been ejected from the game. Doesn't some review committee look at these calls and make it clear to the refs what is acceptable and what is not?

Anyone have a progress report? Is he healed up? Is he practicing?

Anyone anxious for Martinez to come back? When he is 100% healthy, not before.

Much better today. Only 216 yard given up. 184 passing. Minus the last pass for a TD, they could have easily been held to under 200 total yards. Bummer.

Semper Fi, my friend. (1962-68 USN/FMF)

Well, I hope you are correct.

Our society is messed up with regard to salaries for sports and entertainment. We can't afford to support the truly needy in this country but we pay mega bucks to watch someone individual dribble, hit, catch, kick or run with a ball. Like wise for the movie industry. We pay good bucks to go to a movie to watch someone to pretend to be someone else in a mostly fictional story.

Nope! Swing and a miss for ya ! I guess we cant all be right all the time, of course I dont have to tell you that. You think were recessing instead of progressing. How cute is that? The appropriate word would be regressing. But, if you are referring to recruiting, I would go along with recessing!

No, I am not angry. Simply looking at the program for where it has been, where it is going and what it is. I don't mask over the issues, no matter how much I cheer for the Huskers. I don't think any one of us mask over the issues; why can't it be possible that what you feel is an issue may not be an issue at all and what some people feel an issue is not may be an issue after all? It's all about opinion. You and I could have two completely opposite POVs, and each one of us could find statistics that back our claims. Does it make it an issue or a non-issue? Depends on who you ask. You can look at the program and see concern where I can look at the program and see hope. You could say, "look at the blowout losses!" and I could say, "the defense is athletic and young, and it is only a matter of time before we cross that 10 win mark." Each of us is right. The difference in my opinion and your opinion (as you stated in your example) is that my opinion is, based on the actual blow outs, a fact. Your opinion is, at this point in time, purely speculation. What is 10 wins if you don't win a conference championship, a BCS bowl game or a national championship? And yes, I agree that everyone has an opinion.

Nope! Swing and a miss for ya !

Great news! I wish the young man the very best.

No, I am not angry. Simply looking at the program for where it has been, where it is going and what it is. I don't mask over the issues, no matter how much I cheer for the Huskers.

You are absolutely correct. The proof is in the pudding. Why should Pelini even ask the question, "Do we have a chance with this kid?" Pelini's main problem is two fold: (1). His on and off field demeanor/temper and (2). Losing big games by lopsided scores on national TV, repeatedly. Neither perception is an isolated incident. His lambasting Martinez on national TV and his expletive filled "fan rant" are real visual and tangible events. It will take a long time to recover from those types of situations, if ever. He can be the nicest guy in the world to coaches, but those two perceptions are out there for everyone to see. Thus, causing him to have to as the ridiculous question, "Do we have a chance with this kid?" Recruits see these things as do HC coaches and parents. NU has lost out on some very significant recruits, a couple from in state. That bleeding needs to stop. You have got to be shatting me......this is unreal. 1) why waste valuable time recruiting a kid who isnt coming in the end? 2) NU loses out on more recruits because of snow than Pelinis yelling 3) Bo runs a clean and well adjusted program, parents see that 4) The grass isnt always greener on the other side my friend So, you don't think those lopsided losses mean anything to young kids? If there were only one, then maybe. But the repeated drubbing NU gets on National TV is beyond real. Kids do see those things. They do pay attention to those things. Also, you think his rants and unprofessionalism on and of the field don't weigh in? If you don't think those things make a difference, you are sadly mistaken. I have a very close friend that I worked with for 20 years and who was recruited by Tom Osborne back in the early 1980's. He said his folks could not believe the manner in which TO presented himself and his presence with regard to honesty, integrity, and respect for the kids. My friend had many other D-1 offers but when TO entered his living room, the recruiting process stopped. I can't imagine that TO ever asked a head coach, "Do you think we have a chance with this kid." I don't know where to begin with this post. Like I said earlier in this thread, its not even worth it with this guy. I haven't seen him post one positive thing since he joined Go to this thread: http://www.huskerboa...re-at-nebraska/ Read the stats that Hudson has so diligently researched. It is all there right in front of you. Or, if you go to the games, take a good look at our "talent" on defense. Our defensive line has a long, long ways to go. What are we averaging on yards given up per game? Over 400? And, that is against some pretty weak competition. Several years ago, we were lucky to get Lavante David. He was a Juco kid. Without him, we would have been a very average team. Now, we have Gregory, another Juco kid. What does that tell you about going into high schools and recruiting outstanding defensive players, particularly the front seven? I can appreciate your enthusiasm for the Huskers. However, after 5-6 decades as a fan, the product I see on the defensive side of the ball does not measure up to the standards of the "Blackshirts" I, or many other Husker Fans, are used to seeing on the field. When Pelini starts winning conference championships and puts back in the hunt for a National Title, then you will find your positive posts from me. Sugar coat it all you want! It seems to me that Pelini is an angry man who can't recruit. I am now, and always have been, a huge supporter of NU sports.

You are absolutely correct. The proof is in the pudding. Why should Pelini even ask the question, "Do we have a chance with this kid?" Pelini's main problem is two fold: (1). His on and off field demeanor/temper and (2). Losing big games by lopsided scores on national TV, repeatedly. Neither perception is an isolated incident. His lambasting Martinez on national TV and his expletive filled "fan rant" are real visual and tangible events. It will take a long time to recover from those types of situations, if ever. He can be the nicest guy in the world to coaches, but those two perceptions are out there for everyone to see. Thus, causing him to have to as the ridiculous question, "Do we have a chance with this kid?" Recruits see these things as do HC coaches and parents. NU has lost out on some very significant recruits, a couple from in state. That bleeding needs to stop. You have got to be shatting me......this is unreal. 1) why waste valuable time recruiting a kid who isnt coming in the end? 2) NU loses out on more recruits because of snow than Pelinis yelling 3) Bo runs a clean and well adjusted program, parents see that 4) The grass isnt always greener on the other side my friend So, you don't think those lopsided losses mean anything to young kids? If there were only one, then maybe. But the repeated drubbing NU gets on National TV is beyond real. Kids do see those things. They do pay attention to those things. Also, you think his rants and unprofessionalism on and of the field don't weigh in? If you don't think those things make a difference, you are sadly mistaken. I have a very close friend that I worked with for 20 years and who was recruited by Tom Osborne back in the early 1980's. He said his folks could not believe the manner in which TO presented himself and his presence with regard to honesty, integrity, and respect for the kids. My friend had many other D-1 offers but when TO entered his living room, the recruiting process stopped. I can't imagine that TO ever asked a head coach, "Do you think we have a chance with this kid."

Tim Beck----Knolls Country Club? Are you kidding me?