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5 bits trophy - long history, close games currently, and relatively close in distance between the schools. The Iowa one is forced the Wisc one is too one sided. It may catch fire and importance as time goes on.

Yes - this is a huge problem. Some future court may have to reverse it or set new limits.

very interesting

Ok, we got the dem, we got the repub, now the 3rd party Presidential thread just for grins. It could easily be argued that Ross P cost GHWB the election in 1992 and that Ralph Nader cost Gore the election in 2000. Will there be a spoiler this time around? On the repub side, I could see Trump's ego being large enough to run as a 3rd party after the Repub establishment gangs up on him. I can also see Cruz's misguided self righteous cause persuade him to doing so as well. On the dem side, Sanders, after being squeezed out by the Biden/Hillary wing may consider a run on behalf of his very passionate followers and those causes that are outside of the establishment's approval. Will we have a 3rd party candidate, probably not, but there is always a possibility during an open presidency election. The 3rd Party candidate that I would support: The biggest issue facing DC is 'business as usual" - Washington establishment entrenchment which divides and thus we have gridlock - polarization on the extreme sides. There are two fractions (one per party) that have similar interests but on the surface seem to be far apart politically - they just have different means or ideas on how to get to the end goal. I'm speaking of libertarian leaning republicans and the Warren left leaning branch of the democratic party. While the traditional convention system would never allow a presidential nominee choose a running mate from the other party, this would not be the case wt an independent 3rd party ticket. It would take a real statesman(women) to be a part of such a ticket - to but aside party differences & to act on the common good and the common interest with the purpose of moving the country forward and not just the party. So wt that in mind, to me a dream 3rd party ticket would be .. Rand Paul/Elisabeth Warren. Both are articulate, passionate and there are many things they share in common - anti establishment, anti big banks/wall street controlling everything, limited foreign policy and military action, relaxation on personal liberty regulations, etc. Yes, they have some vast differences but yet there are common themes that could create an effective ' coalition' govt - to borrow a parliamentary gov't phrase (which may be a solution to our grid lock but of course that is a constitutional discussion worthy of its own thread if someone wants to start that discussion). So, I would support a Paul/Warren ticket and even a Warren/Paul ticket. Will it happen ---not in this political climate, should it happen - yes. Is there a different coalition ticket that you would support? What say you?

Boy this thread went down a million rabbit trails but good discussion. I don't think the repbus are too divided at this point. Most of the 17 in the race are in it for attention only IMHO - they want a book deal, they want to be noticed for future political job, etc. Most have no chance and they hopefully know it. It will dwindle quickly once the real fun begins in Iowa and NH. After S Carolina I expect it to be down to 5 candidates at the most - Rubio, Paul, Walker, Bush and Christie or Ohio Gov Kasich. Overall, the establishment will gang up on Trump - as candidates drop out - I see their support going to one of these 5. Maybe the Ohio governor will replace the NJ governor as Kasich's state is doing better than Christie's state. If one of these 6 puts Trump in his place during the debates (most likely Christie) you will see their stock rise in the polls.

This is a great get by the coaching staff - and to think we can rub in Wisc's eyes for the next 4 years is even better

amen - unfortunately it was our last major highlight also

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/osu/osuhomepage1/the-big-at-top-highlights-from-the-conference-s-history/article_2c452608-26ac-5951-b235-32d137b08757.html This article and a series of articles listed at the end of it reviews 20 years of Big 12. I post it on this forum because they recognize the 1997 teams championship, Suh as the #1 D player and Grant Wistrom also listed @ 10 - too low. (No mention of the Browns, D Williams, Peters, Bullocks and other dominated D players. It mentions Eric's Heisman and has him rated in top 10 of QBs and A Green as 20th in non QB Offensive players (way too low)

Another What IF -- What if Tom took up the potential job offer at Colorado. Would the Big 8 have been all about Colorado and the Sooners, would the Big 8 become a one team Sooner league, or would it have been possible for NU to draw a big name coach, Bobbie Bowden before he went to FSU for example, and remain dominate as they were under Tom?

Is anyone surprised it took this long for Frost to get in? I had assumed, wrongly, that he would have been in long ago. Why so long? Glad Brook is being so honored.

One final though on suffering. The church's response is to be involved and to try to lesson the impact of suffering around the world. Our faith, which believes in an ultimate final answer to suffering, tells us to be Christ's representatives now - to bring healing and hope to the hurting, regardless of race, creed, gender, etc. Here is an example of what one segment of Christianity is doing in one continent - Africa: I am not a Catholic, but I support every church's efforts to help the less fortunate. While many Christians have done bad things (as some so quickly point out to in order to discredit) it was also Christians that led the charge to free the slaves both in the USA & England, and lead or led in times past in providing support for so many who seek social justice around the world. Christians churches and individuals do a great amount of charity. Compassion International feeds thousands, Christian Charity, Catholic Relief services works in over 40 countries to bring clean water and the ability to make a living to the poorest of the poor. Catholic Charities works in our own country with soup kitchens and other assistance to the poor. Along with that, most churches have a stash of money they can use to give to people who come to the church begging. And that is the tip of the iceberg, Where do these organizations get their money to do this? From the everyday Christian who donates their time and money. I promise you, if all Christian charities were to cease their work tomorrow. The world would be much worse off Here is more: http://www.forbes.com/lists/20... If you go down and select all of the Catholic organizations the amount is astounding! Adding up just Catholic Charities, Food for the Poor, Catholic Relief Services, St. Jude's, and America's Second Harvest alone total $5,570,000,000, which is greater than #1 on the list for America. Keep going down the list and you find Father Flanagan's homes, Catholic Medical Mission Board, Covenant House, and more. Add the thousands of other charities, from Missionaries to the Poor, Amigos for Christ, soup kitchens, homeless shelters, to religious orders (like Missionaries of Charity) and thousands upon thousands of individual parishes across the globe who often do their work in anonymity, and you will see some of the charitable works of the Catholic Church. Again, I am not a Catholic but I highlight their efforts as they are perhaps the best organized but also the most maligned group. Start adding in groups like World Vision, Compassion International, Salvation Army, Samaritans Purse, Feed the Children and we are just touching the tip of Protestant giving to aid people who are suffering. Christian faith understands the issue - God and Evil can co-exist at the same time. We believe we have the practical answer in the hear and now- feed the hunger, give water to the thirsty, cloth the naked, comfort the hurting. And we believe we have the theological & philosophical answer for eternity - God will one day sweep all evil aside as He brings this age to an end - there will be no more suffering, only joy in His presence.

No. Edit: I looked at wikipedia. Looks like lots stayed. '76 was an interesting year though. 1972: Bob Devaney Head Coach Tom Osborne Offensive Coordinator Cletus Fischer Offensive Line 1960-85 Carl Selmer Offensive Line 1962-72 Jim Ross 1962-76 John Melton Tight Ends, Wingbacks 1973 1962-88 Mike Corgan Running Backs 1962 1962-82 Monte Kiffin 1967-76 Warren Powers Defensive Backs 1969-76 Boyd Epley Head Strength Coach 1969 19692003 Jim Walden 1971-72 Bill Myles Offensive Line 1972 1972-76 Not sure what happened in 1976, but maybe Powers and Kiffin had decided they had been assistants at NU long enough. I am sure they were disappointed when the young OC (Osborne) was named HC after 1972, but stayed a few more years out of loyalty to Devaney. Then they left to pursue their own HC jobs. From what I have heard, it was pretty controversial when Devaney selected TO to succeed him. Then Powers gets his revenge in 78 as his MO team beats NU after NU beats OU for the #1 place in the poll - thus we end up playing OU again in the Orange Bowl instead of winning the nat'l championshiip - what a bummer that was.

Collins wt the new attack D or Gangwash - if everyone is trying to stop Collins and VV. This could also give Gerry more opportunities as we rush the QB I'm thinking the opposing Os will have to pick their poison.

http://www.scout.com/college/football/recruiting/story/1561067-elite-11-interview-patrick-o-brien?s=204 I like the 2 QB recruits. I think the QB upgrade is on the way. Any chance either of the recruits, O'Brien or Wilson start as true freshmen? (Thought I'd start the QB controversy early )

Good point regarding the crickets. The people that know... know. Reputation speaks louder than a loud mouth.

It is amazing to think about how close we were to so many NC even in the 1980s besides the 90s. Could add the 78 loss to MO after beating OU But to think of it, this is just down right pathetic - we are so far removed from those days that we get braggadocios just thinking of our 'what could have been' moments. We can be thankful for the 5 NC regardless. Most schools wish for 1. We hope to get back into the discussion.

Maybe Bohl was a better HC than a DC as he became Solich's scapegoat

I have often wondered about that myself - if Tom had been HC in 2001, I do think we would have had better weapons instead of EC left and EC right. The recruiting dropped off considerably or so it seemed by results after Tom left. If he had stayed on after establishing the 94-97 dynasty, we would have been like today's Bama - everyone wanting to play for coach Tom and playing in the Big 12. The 1999 team, pretty much all Tom's players starting was about as good as the 97 team Never could figure out or reconcile why Tom left football for health reason and then went into politics - not exactly a stress free occupation.

I came across a book in a used bookstore the other day that dealt wt historical what ifs - small changes in history that would have had a big impact - speaks to the 'little things matter' concept. It got me thinking last night as I laid in bed wt a migraine (love cheese but some give me an allergic reaction), what about some of NUs 'what ifs' If Tom had not gone for 2, he would have won the NC wt a tie wt Miami (so the claim of conventional wisdom). How would that have change NU football in the 1980's or would it have remain the same. 1. It could have meant better recruits and we negate the Soon Magic and we win another NC or even 2 - the 1980s would be the decade we longed for again. 2. Tom retires sooner and the 1990s dynasty never occurs 3. Status quo changes nothing: we remain near the top of the rankings for most of the decade -except for a loss in the bowl game or to the Sooners. We still have very talented players - but a step behind in performance to the sooners and the bowl teams . #3 is my view - what is yours? Other little one play changes in history 1. 1982 PSU catch out of bounds ruled a catch 2. 1993 - FSU the phantom clip and the no call FSU fumble 3.1996 -NU foot poisoning - stomach sickness - CCG vs texas 4. 1999 - Alexander fumbles the ball going across the end zone vs texas Change these 4 historical events plus the going for 2 in 1983, I think we could easily say NU would have 4-5 more championships. We were the best team in 1999, 96- we would have been a favorite although not as clear cut. 1982, 83, 93 no doubt those 3 plays cost us a NC. So how would those 4-5 more NC reflected on NU now? Perhaps impossible to speculate - but I think we'd be in a better position than we are now.. A 1999 NC by Solich may have placed us on the different path & timetable.

Yes, the quarter of football in which afterwards I had to apologize to all of those old TV sets in which I inserted my foot - the year before TV set against FSU, the 1987 TV set against sooner magic, and of course the 1983 TV set - 2 pt heartbreak. Those 2 TDs made all things right in Husker Land - ghosts exorcised, wounds healed, heads tilled upward. Those go down as 2 of my all time favorite runs and the call "Its Schlesinger! Its Schlesinger!" still sends chills down my spine.

But we set the "RESET BUTTON" -all should be well. Since 9/11 our foreign policy under 2 diff 2 term presidents has gone to pot. There is greater risk now than about anytime since the 'end' of the cold war.

While I do miss some of the rivalry games I grew up with & that NU doesn't play in OKLA anymore (nice road trip for the Tulsa based OK Cornhusker club) - we are much better off in the B10. I don't see how the article says were were losers when they bash the big 12 so bad from which we came.

That was hard. As noted above, Frasier was just being Frasier - he is on a level all by himself and I would have to say the same wt Johnny Rodgers - we may have to do this with 'level 1' and level 2 players. Some guys you expect and get greatness on virtually every game. Now for all of the others, I went with TM game 7 at Okie State. I went with it for good reason - I was at that game along with 100s of Okla Cornhusker Club fans (at the 2:40:59 mark they show a "Nebraska remaining schedule graph" I'm 2 rows above the K in Nebraska in the black Husker Cap - those are all Okla Cornhusker Club members in that section - first time I saw that when I clicked the link above). We were actually all blown away by TM's performance. We knew Okie State was going to light up the sky - they had Blackman on the the side and he was matched against our Prince A in a real battle. We were all amazed on how well TM matched everything the OSU did against our D. A turning point came when we faked a punt and got an unexpected 1st down that led to a TD. This game was also remembered for the huge kick off return 'block' Martin threw on an OSU player (knocked him out) - of which he got suspended by the conf a week later. TM had amazed us by his runs against KSU and then amazed us at OSU. We though we had the 2nd coming of Tommie Frazier until a week later when TM got injured against Missouri and he seemed to never be the same again.

Good review Lo. I like what he's done wt recruiting thus far as well. We'll see the benefits of that by year 3 for sure - if not year 2 if one of those recent 2 QBs recruits really catch fire. His attitude and its affect on the players alone should be worth one win compared to the drag Bo's negativity had on the players. If Banker can surprise us and actually upgrades the D significantly, then we could see a drastic change in where we've been under Bo.