Born N Bled Red

Because I heard from a reliable source that Notre Dame Joe and Archy1221 are sock puppets for the same account... I don't know if its true but someone should look into it.

Did you hear Notre Dame Joe is Archy1221's sock puppet account? They were both in on selling signals to Bama!

Ok, what was the intent of pointing out he didn't die at the protest and that he wrote left leaning stuff?

Archy1221 is Notre Dame Joe's sock puppet account! Someone needs to investigate this immediately!

He wasn't killed at the capitol. And he wasn't injured so badly that he went from the capitol to a hospital. BTW, he took a progressive stance on many issues (he wrote multiple letters to editors of NJ newspapers on issues). Just food for thought. How does this dismiss the sacrifice he made on behalf of our nation??

Notre Dame Joe was found to be working with Bama, gave them practice tape and sold their signals. If everyone on the board repeats this enough someone will believe it. Maybe even Notre Dame Joe himself.

Haha... or 1789 The first inauguration of George Washington as the first President of the United States was held on Thursday, April 30, 1789 on the balcony of Federal Hall in New York City, New York. The inauguration was held nearly two months after the beginning of the first four-year term of George Washington as President. Chancellor of New York Robert Livingston administered the presidential oath of office. With this inauguration, the executive branch of the United States government officially began operations under the new frame of government established by the 1787 Constitution

Still funny... shoulda picked the right date.

Was thinking the same thing!

Hey guys!!! Have you ever noticed you never see @Notre Dame Joe and @Archy1221 in the same place at the same time... hmmmmm

I hope you never try to claim you back the blue again. I will be here to call your unpatriotic a** out everytime.

If there was any proof of any wrongdoing Republicans would have locked her up and thrown away the key, gleefully. That they haven't shows that they have nothing to stand on, and instead push these idiotic conspiracy theories, for uninformed people with existing prejudices to latch on to. If you can't see that now, you're blind.

I posted an article today about Shays rebellion that offered a framework of what I thought were appropriate punishments. 1. Any minor player who participated, if they sign a document admitting their participation swears an oath of allegiance (and I would add can pass a citizenship test) gets full amnesty. 2. Ringleaders are tried and, if convicted, sentenced to life in prison with chance of a parole with good behavior. 3. No one who participated at any level is eligible to hold elected office for the remainder of their life. 4. I'd also add that participants of an insurrection have forfeited their 2nd amendment rights and are therefore ineligble to own firearms at the penalty of life in prison.

Say what??? Media runs what they are paid to. Candidate ads quit running when they don't have the money to buy time, not because the media decides to stop.

Read this yesterday, I think the French guy was very convincing "You cannot tell me I don't know what they should have done. I can fly to Washington tomorrow and do that job, just as any police official in Washington can fly to Paris and do mine," the official said. The official directs public security in a central Paris police district filled with government buildings and tourist sites. "These are not subtle principles" for managing demonstrations, "and they transfer to every situation," the official said. "This is why we train alongside the US federal law enforcement to handle these very matters, and it's obvious that large parts of any successful plan were just ignored."

1) In response to me referencing the death of a Capitol officer as a reason our nation is not as safe. You brought up the officer deaths that occurred this summer. Explain to me what your response was intended to do- as to me it looks as if you were trying to justify his death with theirs. Go ahead and explain to me your alternative purpose for doing so. 3) You said it didn't happen when you responded to me and said said we were no less safe and asked me to give you reasons we weren't as safe as before. The burden of proof lies on you. I gave you 9 real ways we are less safe today than we were on Tuesday. 6) You claimed you couldn't know that we are less safe abroad.- Pretty easy concept to understand here. - A weakened united states standing empowers and emboldens our enemies, putting our military and greater risk. - Not a reach- sorry its hard for you to get this. 9) I corrected my post to reference this more correctly. Your nonsense response wasn't a conspiracy theory. it was a weak excuse and attempt at a justification of the actions of the congressional objectors - Which is only part of which I was talking about when I referenced election interference.

1) as opposed to all the police killed in the summer by both leftists and right wing militia people. Hmmmm. - good to know you only back the blue in the summer. - Means you were full of it all along. 3). Those assessments will come shortly I’m sure. I live in KS and will not be able to prove s#!t. Try that schtick on someone else You're the one who said we weren't any less safe. You can't prove it don't say it. 6) I can’t speak to if we are less safe abroad. No idea and no way for me to know bulls#!t- so this is where your support of the military ends too huh? 9) How so? While I agree that the objectors are nonsense and Jan 6th should always be what it’s designed for, a ceremonial end to the election process, this all started in 2000, then 2004, then 2016 and not many people seemed to throw up much of a stink about it. Take your lame excuses and attempts at justification elsewhere-

We are- #1. They KILLED A COP and injured 13 others- so there is one less person in DC trained to respond to these situations and 12 less available. #2 The fact that they were let in and let out and had little to no resistance from defense forces, shows that our system is and can be corrupted. #3. We do not know who these people were and what their purpose of going there was. Have offices been bugged? We national security secrets stolen? Prove to me they weren't. #4. The fact there was little to no repercussions as of yet, has empowered more of these looney toones to try again. Have you seen the posts being shared about their plans on the 19th? Trump just declared he won't be at the inauguration, wonder what is planned to go down? #5. In the immediate future, and certainly true on the 19th, the removal of the leaders of the capitol police (which should happen due to their epic failure) has weakened the command structure for the next several days/ weeks/ months until replacements can be installed. #6 Our standing throughout the world took a major hit making it harder to protect our interests at home and abroad. #7 Boy, if I was a foreign nation waiting to attack, now would sure be a good time to do it. #8 People were able to get through with cuffs, guns, and other weapons, and at least 1 ied they showed its possible and how to do it. #9 It has put all of our future elections at risk for further tampering. How does this not register for you?

I take an attack on our nation and government more seriously than people protesting in the streets. We as a nation are less safe now than we were before this happened yesterday. We don't know who was in that building, what information was accessed or stolen off congressional desks and computers. I love America, and our Democracy. The violence, loss of life, and destruction of property this summer was terrible. It didn't threaten our nation, our duly elected leaders or the United States Constitution. As a true patriot, and proud American, I can't be silent when this country I love is under attack. While again, the violence this summer was wrong and terrible, American businesses have insurance to protect against loss of property and the federal government has provided aid that while couldn't possibly replace what some individuals lost completely has certainly helped. Yesterday's attacks threated the constitution of the United States of America directly. If that is destroyed, if our democracy is ruined, there is no coming back. Our standing as a beacon of light to the oppressed people of the world would be gone, and the sacrifices made by every American that lived, fought, and died defending our constitution from the Revolutionary War through the armed conflicts going on today would have been made in vain. 243 years ago, the founding fathers laid out a government that has been the envy of the free world ever since. That is what was attacked yesterday. The equivalency you keep presenting is false. If you can't see that you're blind.

You read my posts, I've justified nothing that happened this summer.

Additionally, one riot threatened personal property The other riot threatened national security, our national leaders, our democratic process, and our system of governance.

This is how the last traitors/ small insurrection was handled, those who participated in Shay's rebellion were treated in 1786/1787. (Pulled from Wiki) Sorry its long, but I think its an interesting piece of the current discussion. The Civil War, while also including traitors, obviously was much bigger. On August 29, a well-organized force of protestors formed in Northampton, Massachusetts and successfully prevented the county court from sitting.[24] The leaders of this force proclaimed that they were seeking relief from the burdensome judicial processes that were depriving the people of their land and possessions. They called themselves Regulators, a reference to the Regulator movement of North Carolina which sought to reform corrupt practices in the late 1760s.[25] The court was then shut down in Worcester, Massachusetts by similar action on September 5, but the county militia refused to turn out, as it was composed mainly of men sympathetic to the protestors.[27] Governors of the neighboring states acted decisively, calling out the militia to hunt down the ringleaders in their own states after the first such protests.[28] Samuel Adams claimed that foreigners ("British emissaries") were instigating treason among citizens. Adams helped draw up a Riot Act and a resolution suspending habeas corpus so the authorities could legally keep people in jail without trial. Adams proposed a new legal distinction that rebellion in a republic should be punished by execution.[15] The legislature also moved to make some concessions on matters that upset farmers, saying that certain old taxes could now be paid in goods instead of hard currency.[15] These measures were followed by one prohibiting speech critical of the government and offering pardons to protestors willing to take an oath of allegiance.[33] These legislative actions were unsuccessful in quelling the protests,[15] and the suspension of habeas corpus alarmed many.[34] Warrants were issued for the arrest of several of the protest ringleaders, and a posse of some 300 men rode to Groton on November 28 to arrest Job Shattuck and other rebel leaders in the area. Shattuck was chased down and arrested on the 30th and was wounded by a sword slash in the process.[35] This action and the arrest of other protest leaders in the eastern parts of the state angered those in the west, and they began to organize an overthrow of the state government. "The seeds of war are now sown", wrote one correspondent in Shrewsbury,[36] and by mid-January rebel leaders spoke of smashing the "tyrannical government of Massachusetts".[37] The federal government had been unable to recruit soldiers for the army because of a lack of funding, so Massachusetts leaders decided to act independently. On January 4, 1787, Governor Bowdoin proposed creating a privately funded militia army. Former Continental Army General Benjamin Lincoln solicited funds and raised more than £6,000 from more than 125 merchants by the end of January.[38] The 3,000 militiamen who were recruited into this army were almost entirely from the eastern counties of Massachusetts, and they marched to Worcester on January 19. While the government forces assembled, Shays and Day and other rebel leaders in the west organized their forces establishing regional regimental organizations that were run by democratically elected committees. Their first major target was the federal armory in Springfield.[40] General Shepard had taken possession of the armory under orders from Governor Bowdoin, and he used its arsenal to arm a militia force of 1,200. He had done this even though the armory was federal property, not state, and he did not have permission from Secretary at War Henry Knox.[41][42] The insurgents were organized into three major groups and intended to surround and attack the armory simultaneously. Shays had one group east of Springfield near Palmer, Luke Day had a second force across the Connecticut River in West Springfield, and the force under Eli Parsons was to the north at Chicopee.[43] The rebels had planned their assault for January 25, but Day changed this at the last minute and sent a message to Shays indicating that he would not be ready to attack until the 26th.[44] Day's message was intercepted by Shepard's men, so the militia of Shays and Parsons approached the armory on the 25th not knowing that they would have no support from the west;[45] instead, they found Shepard's militia waiting for them. Shepard first ordered warning shots fired over the heads of Shays' men, and then he ordered two cannons to fire grape shot. Four Shaysites were killed and 20 wounded. There was no musket fire from either side, and the rebel advance collapsed.[46] Most of the rebel forces fled north, both Shays' men and Day's men, and they eventually regrouped at Amherst, Massachusetts.[47] General Lincoln immediately began marching west from Worcester with the 3,000 men that had been mustered. The rebels moved generally north and east to avoid him, eventually establishing a camp at Petersham, Massachusetts. They raided the shops of local merchants for supplies along the way and took some of the merchants hostage. Lincoln pursued them and reached Pelham, Massachusetts on February 2, some 30 miles (48 km) from Petersham.[48] He led his militia on a forced march to Petersham through a bitter snowstorm on the night of February 3–4, arriving early in the morning. They surprised the rebel camp so thoroughly that the rebels scattered "without time to call in their out parties or even their guards".[49] Lincoln claimed to capture 150 men but none of them were officers, and historian Leonard Richards has questioned the veracity of the report. Most of the leadership escaped north into New Hampshire and Vermont, where they were sheltered despite repeated demands that they be returned to Massachusetts for trial.[50] Lincoln's march marked the end of large-scale organized resistance. Ringleaders who eluded capture fled to neighboring states, and pockets of local resistance continued. Some rebel leaders approached Lord Dorchester for assistance, the British governor of the Province of Quebec who reportedly promised assistance in the form of Mohawk warriors led by Joseph Brant.[51] Dorchester's proposal was vetoed in London, however, and no assistance came to the rebels.[52] The same day that Lincoln arrived at Petersham, the state legislature passed bills authorizing a state of martial law and giving the governor broad powers to act against the rebels. The bills also authorized state payments to reimburse Lincoln and the merchants who had funded the army and authorized the recruitment of additional militia.[53] On February 16, 1787, the Massachusetts legislature passed the Disqualification Act to prevent a legislative response by rebel sympathizers. This bill forbade any acknowledged rebels from holding a variety of elected and appointed offices.[54] Four thousand people signed confessions acknowledging participation in the events of the rebellion in exchange for amnesty. Several hundred participants were eventually indicted on charges relating to the rebellion, but most of these were pardoned under a general amnesty that excluded only a few ringleaders. Eighteen men were convicted and sentenced to death, but most of these had their sentences commuted or overturned on appeal, or were pardoned. John Bly and Charles Rose, however, were hanged on December 6, 1787.[58] They were also accused of a common-law crime, as both were looters. Shays was pardoned in 1788 and he returned to Massachusetts from hiding in the Vermont woods.[59] He was vilified by the Boston press, who painted him as an archetypal anarchist opposed to the government.[60] He later moved to the Conesus, New York area where he died poor and obscure in 1825.[59]

Man, and here I thought we were making so much progress today... Minimizing a coordinated attack on our democratic process, system of government, and the nation that so many generations have sacrificed to protect is pretty unbelievable

Do we really??? @Notre Dame Joe? Seems like Clintons have been revenge investigated since the dawn of time. The only ones that seem to have gotten a pass on not being prosecuted are Nixon-Watergate, Reagan- Iran Contra, and Bush Jr. - war crimes and Trumping up a war under false pretenses. - looks to me like Dems need to grow a pair and educate Republicans since letting them off the hook sure doesn't seem to be working.