Nebfanatic

HA! This isn't the place but boy do i have so much to say about this. Also, no one is trying to repeal the second amendment but the interperetation was greatly streched within the last century and that is a fact

How so?

2017 class wasn't bad either as I thought we snagged some solid guys even if they weren't as highly rated

He is an elite prospect for sure. Would love to see him in this offense at his full potential

Who would be the backup?

Naw, makes too much sense.

Radius guy so that may help too but Bobby Petrino knows offense so if he has a Louisville offer he likely has some electricity on the field. Edit: after a little film, this dude is big and fast. I don't know how tough Kansas football is but he runs past everyone.

He wants to be a Maverick, huh?

Fair enough. Honestly I don't really care, sure he let it slip but still within the range we have been for 15 years. We didn't fall into oblivion talent wise and that is more of what I meant. We are still top dogs in the west in terms of sheer talent.

Recruiting rankings in their conference prior to Frosts arrival: 11th, 8th, 3rd, 3rd. So its not like they are a juggernaught in a weak conference. There are more talented teams.

When i said talent I directly meant his recruiting rankings which is all he had control over. Team talent rankings factor in Bo's last class which was the worst in awhile and it brings down the ranking as they move through the program. The 247 talent ranking is based pretty heavily off recruiting rankings

UCF recruited 11th, 8th, 3rd, and 3rd in its own conference the 4 years leading to Frosts arrival so they were less talented than alot of their conference. We are more talented than our whole division and we have been for some time. The conditioning sucks but that will be fixed by the time the games are played

6 wins is so realistic it hurts. 7 wins? You might as well believe aliens are taking over tomorrow.

Not sure how you are getting that, but ok. Talent level under Riley was consistent with what it has been for 15 years. His senior class last year was one of the least talent to go through NU in awhile, thats why I think the 247 talent evaluation isn't all on him. He did a bad job developing, I'll give you that, but there is plenty to work with on the roster

How so? I could take a look at UCF recruiting rankings and they will be wayyyyy below us all 4 years leading up to Frost. They also went from a pro scheme to Frosts spread option. What put UCF in a better position to succeed under Frost than us? I'm not seeing it. We are leagues ahead of where UCF was when it comes to talent, facilities, support. So please tell me how UCF was better off 2 years ago than we are now?

So you think 8 wins is just being unrealistic but 6 that is realistic.

"Pieces" could mean anything, and wile we may not be exactly where Frost wants roster wise, we are in better shape than UCF was to start. I think the players will grasp the system enough and I do think we have enough pieces to make the system succesful. It won't be as good as year 2, year 3 ect. But it will be enough other teams will take notice

I would attribute roster talent decreasing in part to poor recruiting by Bo in his last year. Recruiting under Riley 2015-30 2016-26 2017-23. 2014 class was 35th.

You're just looking for reasons to be pessamistic. We have alot of talent on the roster. No one knew Suh was a game changer to that extent until Pelini came along. Riley did not let the talent level slip so I guarentee there are some undiscovered gamechangers on the roster.

I'd throw Memphis in the equally talented category and Maryland in the more talented category. I'm not missing the point. This is a better roster than he had at UCF and every team in our division is less talented than us. Frost has work to do but he has more talent to work with now and while we do have tougher competition that doesn't seem to be a bother to Frost

Why?

We have more talent than UCF

And this guy is all american??

I'll say this much, I think Frost would trade our class for Georgia's if he could. Development is going to be the most effective method of putting together a good team, but adding blue chip players can make a great team. Ultimately having Frost is what we need to go to the next level and we do have enough clay on our team for Frost to sculpt a masterpiece, but as we improve look for Frost to improve the talent level as well.

Our best unit all year on D was Dline imo. They broke down at times late in games when our offense was putting them on the field 30 seconds after they got off the field. Thought guys like Stille and Stolenberg stood out as consistently solid. Couldn't get alot of pressure but I wouldn't put all of that on the front 3