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They were great additions for money, which is the more primary motivation than football success. How is the SEC kicking the B1G's a$$? We make a decent amount more money than them.

So we added Rutgers and Maryland for their football?

There's no bylaw for this, there's only a gentleman's agreement that A&M isn't a part of. Unless you've got a link to the bylaws that spells it out, it's a B.S. claim in my opinion. If it was in the bylaws, those would be accessible by journalists, and A&M having a very easy ability to cancel Texas joining would be being reported on. That doesn't have to be the goal and that isn't the goal. The goal is bargaining power over media rights for money, and also academic research and grant money. Those are the only real goals at the end of the day, massive football fanbases of successful programs just serve one of those but aren't the goal in their own right.

First of all I didn't say that at all, I asked a question about whether or not we think that's true. I did say he probably wouldn't be a Husker commit if we were winning a lot more, which I think is true, but I fail to see how that's a SLAM. Landry Jones wasn't as good of a quarterback as Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray or Jalen Hurts after him. Wow, I slammed Landry Jones so hard. I feel bad for slamming that kid. It's more, "Well guys, we haven't done good lately so we have to adjust our strategy a bit because some of these top guys we'd love to have just aren't interested in coming here. What's the best prospect we can realistically get?" Do you not think that recruiting strategy changes based on the coaching staff's perception of who they're going to get? Go boot up NCAA14, start a franchise with Kansas, and sell out all your recruiting energy on the absolute top talent that's out there.

Calm down, dude. You didn't answer my question and I didn't slam anyone. I was asking a question that didn't get answered. The reason I was asking the question was because the other guy was arguing that since we wanted these quarterbacks, that's proof that we're not getting "leftovers" on the recruiting trail. All I was trying to get at is that that doesn't leave room for understanding that our wanted targets change and downgrade as our ability to recruit top talent gets less and less doable.

You sure about that?

Didn't know they had media days at lucas oil stadium this year, that's cool. A bit confused though as I thought I saw local beat writers tweeting that they were flying to Chicago?

Championships and having a tough division in football are not reasons for them to say no compared to the stranglehold and bargaining power they will have for absurd amounts of money.

Did we seek them out because they were the guys we wanted above ALL other quarterbacks, or did we seek them out because they were the best we thought we could realistically get? No way to know for sure, but I feel fairly confident that at least Torres would never be a Nebraska commit if we were winning 11-12 games a year.

The point @hunter49 is making is that we will struggle to attract top talent the more/longer we're a bad team. It's not hard to see this, or see the evidence for it. 2018 - Adrian Martinez, with offers from 26+ teams including Alabama, Oklahoma, Ohio State 2020 - Logan Smothers, with offers from Ohio State, Ole Miss, Louisville, Austin Peay, South Alabama, Southern Miss, Tennessee Tech, Troy, UAB 2021 - Heinrich Haarberg, with offers from Vanderbilt, Buffalo, Boston College, Central Michigan, Illinois State, McNeese State, North Carolina State, Northern Illinois, Northern Iowa, Ohio 2022 - Richard Torres, with offers from Kansas State, San Diego State, Tulsa, UNLV, Utah, and Washington State It's not hard to see that as we stack up more and more subpar seasons, our ability to attract quarterback talent is falling.

Boulder to San Francisco (Pac-12 headquarters) is 1249 miles. Boulder to Rosemont, IL (B1G headquarters) is 1,017 miles. Still, Colorado would be way more of an ugly duckling stepchild fit in the B1G than they currently are in the Pac-12. They should just join the Mountain West

Adrian and Logan didn't commit after four straight losing seasons by this staff.

You mean finishing ranked 16th? That would make them Ferentz's eighth-best team.

Her hair is way too long. As an alpha male, I will get way more chicks than she will. I bet she even plays Dungeons & Dragons

I guess per what the actual term is, I define a system player as someone who relies on the system around him to be successful, not the talent around him. Isn't the whole point of the concept of a system player that the system is designed to make up for the deficiencies in talent? Crouch didn't rely on the talent around him to be successful, but the system was absolutely 100% a major factor in him being successful. He wouldn't have started or even played as a quarterback at Miami or Florida.

This is total nonsense and just daydreaming, but if the B1G went to a 16 team super conference I'd like to see it like so: Get rid of rutgers and maryland and add Pitt and Notre Dame (you add solid historic rivalries for PSU/Mich/MSU and keep your same current number of AAU schools). Then go after Kansas and Missouri, who are both also AAU schools. You don't cheapen the football product at all, you greatly strengthen a number of other sports, and you maintain enough of a geographical/cultural consistency that it seems to fit and make sense.

Why do you want texas to hold you Richard?

I don't understand why either school would want that, honestly. I mean sure their tv rights suck (well, Texas has the LHN still) and their conference is in the bottom half of the P5, but Texas gets to throw its weight around way disproportionately and Oklahoma has an almost guaranteed playoff spot each year. What do they gain, a little bit of extra money?

I'm curious what your definition of a system quarterback is? That second video has people literally saying he was essentially a runningback playing quarterback.

Y'all missed my point. The Heisman is an award for a season, not a career.

No it's not.

Who's upset? I love Eric Crouch, he's one of my all time favorite players, I frequently go back and watch highlights of him and even full games, I'm happy he won the Heisman, and he's also the most underwhelming Heisman winner in the modern era.

On the other hand, HBO Max is premiering all of its theatrical releases at the same time for no additional cost than what you already pay for the subscription. I've seen Wonder Woman 1984, the new Space Jam, and 2-3 other films on release day in my home theater for no additional cost and it rules. I still love theaters though.

Just admitting it for what it is.