Cdog923

No, it's not. There's a thing called "strength of schedule" which Nebraska has none of. The nonconference schedule is a joke. Oregon State, USC an TCU are NOT basketball schools. Just because they are in power conferences does not mean they are good wins. You can't sugar coat the fact that, for whatever reason, this year's basketball team is terrible. We're young at almost every position, and Doc still can't figure out how to set a rotation and how to properly motivate players without completely destroying their confidence. He's got a long way to go before establishing Nebraska as even a mid-tier basketball team in the Big XII. I am stupified as to what some of you expect from this team, this program, and this coach in this current state. You dont make moonshine out of moonbeams, and you dont make great basketball teams out of basketballs and a fans want. Doc has nothing to work with. I just dont see how anyone lays the blame for this at Doc's feet. You have to take the whole program in, and examine it. I have a lot more questions about the seriousness of this team in terms of the athletic department and support staff than Doc. Honestly, what have they provided him with since hiring him to succeed? Other than the honor of leading the wreck? sh#t. NOTHING. Doc is a great coach. The product your seeing is not completely controlled by him. You bring in someone else, same story. Those that want to point to Kansas St as "oh, they can do it, why cant we..." are lacking in the history department and overlooking that their athletic department laid their proverbial manhood on the table and put their money where their mouth was. I am positively not sugarcoating anything. If this team was "terrible," they would have a losing record. We'd be 1-674. Unfortunately, Doc will probably continue to do nothing more than tread water with this program until A: he's fired and someone else gets 4-5 years to drown, or B: the athletic department steps up, and Doc figures out how to lure another Sallie and keep him this time. I agree with the fact that Doc has been handed the short end of the stick from the Admissions department, but this team is mostly comprised of his players. It's his coaching decisions (to which he has admitted his shortcomings) in-game that are mystifying at times. He can't decide on a rotation, he can't decide whether or not to stick with upperclassmen who have reached their peak or play underclassmen with (arguably) more potential. If a player makes a mistake, he doesn't let him play out of it. Rather, he pulls the kid and embarrasses the player on his way to the bench. I don't doubt that Doc has potential to be a very good coach. However, like anything, it takes time, and work. He needs to show improvement. It's downright embarrassing to be a major Division I school with no NCAA tournament wins. I'm not calling for Doc's job, but he needs to show something.

I can't disagree with this list. I never got to hear Bresmer, but I understand how closely associated with the program that he is. Sharpe is really good on the mic. Swain and Rose were below average to mediocre.

Peterson and Callahan damaged our program on the outside; they hurt our performance and the culture of what Nebraska Football is. That being said, what Lawrence Phillips and the aftermath of his ordeal did hurt the soul of Nebraska Football. In one season, a program and a coach that was regarded with nothing but respect was morphed by the media into a win-at-all-costs program. It's something that a lot of people still unfairly hang on Dr. Osborne; something that a lot of people still associate with Nebraska.

Yep. And in my anecdotal experience running into him at a sandwich shop some random Sunday, he took time to shake my hand, say hi to my wife and daughter and be pleasant overall. My very brief experience with the guy has been positive, and on the field I never thought he was half so bad as his worst critics said. He has some polish to put on his game, but I'm thinking he has as good of a chance to do that as anyone. We tend to be too harsh on our young QBs.....remember what we did to Frost? Lee is a good kid, and a good young player. I hope he comes back from this injury next year and lights things on fire.

Enjoy it. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/andy_staples/01/29/best-classes/index.html

I thought Newcombe was the better passer and a great runner, but he had a tendency to fall back and take the 10 yards sacks and run out of bounds that sometimes drove you nuts. What I would have loved to see was what O'Dell James would have done if he chose Nebraska instead of Baylor Still not seeing how Ganz is in anyones top 10 unless they just started watching football this century. Maybe because in just a year and a half's time, he set numerous records and was amazingly effective? He was a master of the offense....just compare the offensive efficency of 2008 to 2009. Sophomore quarterback Joe Dailey produced a record-breaking performance to lead the Nebraska football team to a 59-27 win over Baylor before a sellout crowd of 77,881 at Memorial Stadium. Dailey completed 13 of 20 passes for an NU record 342 yards, surpassing the previous record of 297 yards set by David Humm in 1973. Was it that hard to set records when most of the past QB'S never had to throw it up that much? Maybe you should go back through the schedules and see what he did against good competition. Missou, Oklahoma, What exactly was his biggest win? Clemson The game remained scoreless until the teams combined for 17 points in the final five minutes of the first half. The first score came courtesy of a Husker turnover, as Clemson's DeAndre McDaniel broke into the NU backfield and deflected an option pitch. He was able to find the end zone after the ball bounced right back up to him and he raced 28 yards for the game's first score. Trailing 7-3, Nebraska got the ball right back when Ty Steinkuhler tipped a Cullen Harper pass and Anthony West made a diving interception at the Clemson 27 with 1:05 left in the half. But the Huskers returned the favor on the very next play, as Ganz threw an interception that Crezdon Butler returned 59 yards down to the NU 13. Ganz hurt Nebraska defense more then any QB they played that year for every td he threw he probably had a turnover that set the other team up for a score. You're not seriously comparing Joe Ganz to Joe Dailey, are you?

I don't have time to do all of the stats, but if you scroll up the page a bit I believe one of my posts talks about this exact thing as far as yards are concerned. Frazier put up 655 yards rushing his senior year on 97 attempts. Crouch put up around 1,200 on over 200 attempts. In comparison, Green put up 1,100 rushing yards in 95 and Diedrick put up something like 1300-1400 rushing yards. However, the 95 team spread the ball out a lot more and relied much less on the legs of two guys. Up the thread a bit I also discuss how the full back became practically non-existent in Solich's offense. We had Makovicka and Schuster combine over 600 yards on 91 carries. Judd Davies, the starting fullback in 2001, had 40 carries for only 240 yards. Schuster alone put up 246 on 12 fewer carries. Good post. Phillips, Green, Benning and Childs all could've rushed for over 1000 in '95. What I'd be interested in seeing is how the percentages of total rushing offense from 2000 till 2003 play out. I'd be willing to bet that there was a higher % of yardage produced from the QB than from the RB position.

Forget the kids name but the boxer/QB that chose to be a safety at Notre Dame rather then a QB at Nebraska. O'Dell James choosing Baylor over Nebraska Tom Zybykowski (SP)

I thought Newcombe was the better passer and a great runner, but he had a tendency to fall back and take the 10 yards sacks and run out of bounds that sometimes drove you nuts. What I would have loved to see was what O'Dell James would have done if he chose Nebraska instead of Baylor Still not seeing how Ganz is in anyones top 10 unless they just started watching football this century. Maybe because in just a year and a half's time, he set numerous records and was amazingly effective? He was a master of the offense....just compare the offensive efficency of 2008 to 2009.

I think this means we're going to see more of a mesh of the WCO passing principles that Watson wants to run, with the power running game/threat of a running QB aspects that Bo wants. Don't forget about Beck's background with the spread option game as well. Also, if you think about it, have we truely had a prototypical "drop back passer" as QB since Watson has been running the offense? Both Ganz and Lee have exhibited the ability to run the ball when needed, and Green, Washington, Spano and Martinez are all legit dual threat QBs. I'll argue that the last proto-DB passers we had were Taylor and Keller.

The thing about the Solich offense though was "lets run the option and just have Crouch keep it most of the time". I think one of the biggest downfalls offensively was that Solich retooled the offense and got rid of a lot of things that made us so unpredictable in the 90's. For example, in 2001 Judd Davies, our starting FB, had 40 carries for 240 yards, and he was the only FB that got significant carries. While in 95, we had Jeff Makovicka with 63 carries for 384 yards and Schuster 28 carries for 246 yards. Also, Frazier had only 93 attempt while Crouch over 200. I agree, but the biggest part of Solich's downfall was his recruiting. He was a good offensive coordinator with Crouch under center, but when he didn't have an "Crouch type quarterback" under center, and he had Lord, the offense was "okay" but not "as good". I don't think Solich used his position players as well as he could have. Anyone remember Wilson Thomas? Should have been a huge red zone target, or heck, a legitimate #1 receiver for us. Remember, Solich had Crouch as a player/quarterback for 4 of his 6 years here. We know what happened once Crouch left, 2002 happened. Yes, the defense was bad, but the offense was equally as bad. If Solich had a "Crouch type" here all the time, he may still be around. But he could not develop an offense away from the quarterback only. He couldn't get the ball to the receivers enough, or to different rotating running backs. Recruiting was also a problem, and I think the biggest downfall. The offensive lines during Solich years were very average, which is why he had to hang on Crouch so much, and once Lord was the quarterback, and the line stayed average, the offense became even more vanilla and average. Good point with the fullback. When the fullback position is listed on the depth chart or for starting lineups, I say to myself, "WE HAVE A FULLBACK?!" No offense, but Solich, Callahan, and Watson don't use the fullback enough. Granted, Callahan's offense didn't even THINK about using a fullback, but with Watson here, we've seen the fullback at least on the field on 1st and 2nd down. During Solich's years, we had good fullbacks, but they weren't used as balanced as they were in the 90s. We didn't have the rotating running backs as well. Again, that goes back to recruiting and limit of scholarships as well to hinder teams, which some isn't Solich's fault, but he could have developed a better game plan for when Crouch left, or recruited better, which was his downfall. What about using LaTravis Washington on 2nd or 3rd and goal at Blacksburg? Or heck, even Suh in the goal line package? A quick hitter to the fullback would keep the offense off balance, and of course, brought us a National Title in the 1995 Orange Bowl. I think Solich had a good offensive mind, when Crouch was under center, but once he left, he didn't recruit well to get in players to make up for his absence (offensive line, wide receivers, running backs, full backs) to help out Lord in 2002 and 2003. It became the Lord offense and he did everything, and while he was a great athlete, he wasn't as good of a thrower, nor as quick or as fast as Crouch, which made the offense vanilla and average. It would have been nice to see Joe Dailey in his offense to see if it would have been a little more balanced with everyone and a little different. But we all know how that turned out. That pretty much hits the nail on the head. Great post. The lines were very average? Vili Waldrop committed on signing day in 1999, and put the finishing touches on an excellent class that featured eight linemen. An all-state offensive lineman by the Los Angeles Times, Vili Waldrop was a two-year starter for Banning High School (same school as former Husker All-America quarterback Vince Ferragamo, 1975-76), playing for Coach Chris Gutierrez. Vili Waldrop earned all-conference and all-city honors as a junior and senior. He picked NU over Colorado, Arizona State, Washington, Washington State, Arizona and Oregon. He attended Eisenhower High in Rialto, Calif., as a freshman and sophomore. He had players like Toniu Fonoti and Dominic Raiola the problem he had was instead of those players staying all 4 years they were leaving early for the Pro's something Osborne did'nt have to deal with. Solich had a lot of problems but lineman were not his problem. The thing is, Fonoti and Raiola were the exceptions to the rule in regards to linemen during that time. Vili Waldrop WAS a very average linemen during that time. We didn't have the linemen waiting in the wings to take over like we did in the 70s, 80s and 90s. Thus the problem was them not staying all four years. If they had stayed would those lines have been better? Reading some of the profiles of the lineman a lot of them had health issues which also hurt. It's funny how the lineman were the problem but they were usualy fourth in the Nation in rushing even when everyone knew that Nebraska couldn't pass. You can't count on talent staying for all four years. You also can't count on players staying healthy. That's why you always go after the best athletes, the best talent. Solich whiffed on a lot of players after all of Osborne's players left. Offensive line was an area that really suffred. I'd like to see the stats on carries, YPC and total yards of our starting RBs and our starting QBs from 2000-2003. I'd be willing to guess they favor the QBs, a testament to the freak levels of athleticism that Crouch and Lord had.

Calvin Jones was always a favorite of mine. Ahman Green is up there as well.

The thing about the Solich offense though was "lets run the option and just have Crouch keep it most of the time". I think one of the biggest downfalls offensively was that Solich retooled the offense and got rid of a lot of things that made us so unpredictable in the 90's. For example, in 2001 Judd Davies, our starting FB, had 40 carries for 240 yards, and he was the only FB that got significant carries. While in 95, we had Jeff Makovicka with 63 carries for 384 yards and Schuster 28 carries for 246 yards. Also, Frazier had only 93 attempt while Crouch over 200. I agree, but the biggest part of Solich's downfall was his recruiting. He was a good offensive coordinator with Crouch under center, but when he didn't have an "Crouch type quarterback" under center, and he had Lord, the offense was "okay" but not "as good". I don't think Solich used his position players as well as he could have. Anyone remember Wilson Thomas? Should have been a huge red zone target, or heck, a legitimate #1 receiver for us. Remember, Solich had Crouch as a player/quarterback for 4 of his 6 years here. We know what happened once Crouch left, 2002 happened. Yes, the defense was bad, but the offense was equally as bad. If Solich had a "Crouch type" here all the time, he may still be around. But he could not develop an offense away from the quarterback only. He couldn't get the ball to the receivers enough, or to different rotating running backs. Recruiting was also a problem, and I think the biggest downfall. The offensive lines during Solich years were very average, which is why he had to hang on Crouch so much, and once Lord was the quarterback, and the line stayed average, the offense became even more vanilla and average. Good point with the fullback. When the fullback position is listed on the depth chart or for starting lineups, I say to myself, "WE HAVE A FULLBACK?!" No offense, but Solich, Callahan, and Watson don't use the fullback enough. Granted, Callahan's offense didn't even THINK about using a fullback, but with Watson here, we've seen the fullback at least on the field on 1st and 2nd down. During Solich's years, we had good fullbacks, but they weren't used as balanced as they were in the 90s. We didn't have the rotating running backs as well. Again, that goes back to recruiting and limit of scholarships as well to hinder teams, which some isn't Solich's fault, but he could have developed a better game plan for when Crouch left, or recruited better, which was his downfall. What about using LaTravis Washington on 2nd or 3rd and goal at Blacksburg? Or heck, even Suh in the goal line package? A quick hitter to the fullback would keep the offense off balance, and of course, brought us a National Title in the 1995 Orange Bowl. I think Solich had a good offensive mind, when Crouch was under center, but once he left, he didn't recruit well to get in players to make up for his absence (offensive line, wide receivers, running backs, full backs) to help out Lord in 2002 and 2003. It became the Lord offense and he did everything, and while he was a great athlete, he wasn't as good of a thrower, nor as quick or as fast as Crouch, which made the offense vanilla and average. It would have been nice to see Joe Dailey in his offense to see if it would have been a little more balanced with everyone and a little different. But we all know how that turned out. That pretty much hits the nail on the head. Great post. The lines were very average? Vili Waldrop committed on signing day in 1999, and put the finishing touches on an excellent class that featured eight linemen. An all-state offensive lineman by the Los Angeles Times, Vili Waldrop was a two-year starter for Banning High School (same school as former Husker All-America quarterback Vince Ferragamo, 1975-76), playing for Coach Chris Gutierrez. Vili Waldrop earned all-conference and all-city honors as a junior and senior. He picked NU over Colorado, Arizona State, Washington, Washington State, Arizona and Oregon. He attended Eisenhower High in Rialto, Calif., as a freshman and sophomore. He had players like Toniu Fonoti and Dominic Raiola the problem he had was instead of those players staying all 4 years they were leaving early for the Pro's something Osborne did'nt have to deal with. Solich had a lot of problems but lineman were not his problem. The thing is, Fonoti and Raiola were the exceptions to the rule in regards to linemen during that time. Vili Waldrop WAS a very average linemen during that time. The other linemen in '99? Chris Loos, Jon Dawson and Tim Green. Not exactly a star-studded class.

No, it's not. There's a thing called "strength of schedule" which Nebraska has none of. The nonconference schedule is a joke. Oregon State, USC an TCU are NOT basketball schools. Just because they are in power conferences does not mean they are good wins. You can't sugar coat the fact that, for whatever reason, this year's basketball team is terrible. We're young at almost every position, and Doc still can't figure out how to set a rotation and how to properly motivate players without completely destroying their confidence. He's got a long way to go before establishing Nebraska as even a mid-tier basketball team in the Big XII.

1) How long have you been a member of Husker Nation? From the womb. 2) What/who led you to The Nation? Born and raised in Western NE. Alum UNL, Class of 2008 3) Where are you from originally? SW Nebraska 4) Where do you live now? Lincoln, NE 5) Favorite Husker memories? First Husker game I attended in 2003. FINALLY winning a title in 1994. The '96 Fiesta Bowl. '97 Missouri game. 6) Worst Husker memories? 62-36, followed closely by the '94 Orange Bowl, and most anything that happened from 2004-2008. 7) Number of home games attended? Every game from 2003-2008 8) Number of away games attended? 1 (2006 Big XII Title Game) 9) Favorite Husker memorabilia/apparel? My replica 1995 Tommie Frazier Jersey 10) Favorite place to watch a Husker game? (section in Memorial, bar, friends house etc.) If I can't be at the stadium, at a friend's apartment with 2 52' HDTVs, or watching with my sister. 11) Favorite all time player? Frazier, followed by Suh, Calvin Jones and Aaron Graham. 12) WCO or Option? Spread Option? 13) Stevie Pederson or Billy Byrne? Bob Devaney 14) Lil Red or Herbie Husker? Herbie, although Lil' Red dancing on his head is F'ING CRAZY! 15) Favorite Husker play? The Run 16) Favorite game-day beverage? Mountain Dew 17) How did you find HuskerBoard? (referral source) I followed MKO like a sheep.

Frazier is my all time favorite Husker, so that makes this an easy question. If I had to rank my top 5 favorites (only listing those I've lived to see) 1. Frazier 2. Frost 3. Berringer 4. Crouch 5. Z. Taylor

Ngata to Oregon stung. I know it wasn't a last minute switch, but losing Carl Crawford to MLB probably doomed Frank. Had he come to campus, he would've been an athletic freak, and Lord could've been moved to RB or even defense.

thats so dumb ESPN wouldn't pay for that would they? Yes, they are going to have coffee and donuts and maybe catered lunch for all in attendance. Then they will make $$$ off the coverage. This is about $$$. ESPNU does have much if everyone knows where everyone is going to go. And we care why? Just because he's taking the opportunity to publicize his decision on national TV doesn't mean he's a prima donna. I have a sneaky suspicion Bo doesn't recruit prima donnas. Owa has had an amazing high school career and has earned this notoriety, so let the kid have his day in the sun that will put a nice bow on his high school career. Plus, there are two good things about this for NU fans. One, we get to watch his decision live on TV. Two, it will be great publicity for NU if he chooses the Huskers. It can't hurt getting more guys to grab the red hat on signing day. It's Huskerpedia, they'll melt down for almost anything.

I'll take your Andre Jones and Zack Bowman, and raise you a Terrell Farley and Demorrio Williams.

The idiocy in this thread numbs my mind.

If the OC is replaced, it's more likely that someone would be promoted from within, rather than hiring from the outside. Like who? Cotton? God forbid! Be careful what you wish for... The hot rumor right now is Beck, with Sims taking an assistant position(presumably RB coach for Beck).

None. While I appreciate the revenge factor in going after Franklin, I don't think we need (or have the room) for a QB in this class. Turner in 2011 is really high on us, and we've got a good chance with Christian Suntrup next year. We recruited 2 last year in Green and Martinez. Spano will be healthy next year. That's 3 that can take the starting job away from Lee. We can afford to sit on QB this year, and go after Turner hard next year.

If the OC is replaced, it's more likely that someone would be promoted from within, rather than hiring from the outside.

Everyone knows where and how our chances with Aaron Green stack up. We have Andrew. We are thisclose to getting his cousin, Austin Hill. We've got Moudy, Rodriquez, Hardrick, Moore and Reeves coming in to bolster the offensive line. Expect the full court press on Aaron to come into full effect the first week of February.

If you have the chance to take a player the caliber of Owa, Floyd or Cooper, you take them. The thing I'm worried about is finding scholarships for all of these players. We might see someone like Cotton or Evans be "asked" to walk on for a year or two.