KU fans are the worst in the Big 12

[topekahusker]

Yep, I have too agree with beachbuffs. Pretty bizzarro. Really hard to believe.

 

I don't know the true story here....

 

but I was pelted with snowballs and other objects and I vote my pocketbook. No more trips to Boulder for the wife and me to follow the 'skers!

 

Oh come on, Boulder's nothing like you remember it being nowadays. Just to be on the safe side, check the weather report before you come We'd be happy to have you.

 

I did have one of the best omelets I've every had in my life. Think it was the 'Denver' where they threw everything but the sink into it. It was huge. It was in or near an old downtown hotel. I've been back through Boulder in summers but have never tried to find the place again. We were with some locals that took us there on a Sunday am after gameday.

[BIGREDIOWAN]

A cigarette was thrown from the stands that managed to find its way lodged into the jersey holes of this guy's jersey? I would love for you to email this story to CU, since it does have one of the best aerodynamic programs in the country. Perhaps they could wind tunnel test this. Come on, I know there have been some problems with some of the sttuents but to make up something so rediculous.............nevermind, this can go nowhere positive.

 

look another one who can not spell "ridiculous". Nice.

Oh leave him alone! He's just showing his hidden passion for the power of RED!!!!!

 

hey wait a min, isn't he a buffs fan? yea yea beachbluffs ditch em and join us

 

woo hoo!

 

As I have previously stated I would rather see you guys 10-0 heading into Thanksgiving weekend then then let my Buffs deliver the coup de grace on your season then have you limp in giving up 76 to Kansas of all people.

I can see your point. I would rather see us 10-0 right now as well!

[Stormcloud]

C'mon folks, everyone knows that fans at every other big 12 school act like asshats toward Nebraska fans, and every Nebraska fan acts with nothing but the highest level of class. (The Lincoln Journal Star, Omaha, World Herald, KFAB, and every other media outlet in Nebraska make sure that it's a well documented fact.)

[BeachBuffs]

sCrUmptious! I thank you for keeping your cool and not insulting anybody on this board. I, as a Husker fan, have been to a few away games and hadn't have any problems except once in 1968 when my father's red was taken from him (Yes, I know that is mild in comparison to other things that have happened.) I have seen Husker fans acting like jerks before. Each fan base has a share of bad fans. I don't like it when Husker fans misbehave, and I don't like it when opposing fans act like jerks.

 

But respectfully, sCrUmptious!, you "come off" acting like Husker fans can do no right and nothing ever bad happens to them. And when something bad does happen, you think we are always exaggerating it. Yes, there are cases where you are right, but there are other cases where Husker fans are telling the honest truth, as are fans from other schools telling the honest truth. You act like CU fans can do no wrong, based on the fact that you never seen anything happen -- well among thousands and thousands of CU fans in Boulder, you cannot see everything that goes on. Like any other fan base, bad things happen, so don't tell me that tires have never been slashed in boulder. I acknowledge that tires have been slashed in Lincoln, as well as in Lawrence and Columbia.

 

Do you not believe the 14-year-old Husker fan got pushed by the KU fan? Do you not believe the 76-year-old Husker grandfather got punched by a KU fan? Please at least give those posters the benefit of the doubt. While some Husker fans are not objective, you are clearly not seeing things in an objective way and are being very bias against Nebraska fans. You are being a partisan CU fan and want to spin things to your direction. Again there are Husker fans who are guilty of that, too.

 

Come on, sCrUmptious!, there are so many message boards out there. There are fans from some of these boards that complain about treatment of fans from other schools. Have you been to every single board out there? Do you read every single thread? No, it is not just Husker fans. I have been to message boards before and read complaints about other fans. That's a very general statement you made -- not true at all.

 

Just realize we as Husker fans are not right about everything and you as a CU fan are not right about everything. There is not one side who is always right and one side who is always wrong. I honestly don't know what is going on your head and I am not here to insult you or to judge you, but you come off acting like one side is always right and the other side is always wrong. Try being more objective about this. I am certainly trying to be. The Missouri fan in this thread is being very fair. You are not.

 

Hey, sCrUmptious! Let's hope for a hard fought, clean game in Boulder, and Buff and Husker fans are at their best behavior. And if you see something bad happen, you can be the peacemaker. God bless.

 

I don't think he was denying that we have our shair of asshats because we certainly do, and the school has done a lot to crack down on those asshats. The magic cigarette though is a bit of a stretch and the common story of old people getting mugged and tires slashed sure seems to happen to about 90% of Husker fans in Boulder. Now I am not saying that the Boulder PD is terrific, case in point Jon Benet, but I know that they are out on force on gameday and their #1 goal is to provide safety not only to those clad in black and gold but also in red and white. You would be surprised at how many of us are out there that want to kick your team's arse but want nothing but the best experience for you, other then a win

[knapplc]

I don't think he was denying that we have our shair of asshats because we certainly do, and the school has done a lot to crack down on those asshats. The magic cigarette though is a bit of a stretch and the common story of old people getting mugged and tires slashed sure seems to happen to about 90% of Husker fans in Boulder. Now I am not saying that the Boulder PD is terrific, case in point Jon Benet, but I know that they are out on force on gameday and their #1 goal is to provide safety not only to those clad in black and gold but also in red and white. You would be surprised at how many of us are out there that want to kick your team's arse but want nothing but the best experience for you, other then a win

 

It's not that the tire slashing or assaults have happened to 90% of Husker Fans, it's that 90% of us have heard the accounts of those things happening. I have never in my life ever heard of an entire section of a stadium having to be cleared out of a game because of unruliness. That fact alone lends credence to these stories, you have to admit. It shows that the mentality that would precipitate those actions exists there.

 

However...

 

You would be surprised at how many of us are out there that want to kick your team's arse but want nothing but the best experience for you, other then a win

 

I would bet money that it's upwards of 95% of you guys. The problem you face is that the minority of you who are acting like soccer hooligans give the rest of you a bad name. We know Colorado Fans aren't horrible by and large - you're not geographically far enough away from us to be that different from us, for one thing. Your biggest obstacle are those wholly true reports of slashed tires, broken windows on cars, beer bottle missiles at Folsom Field, and all the other stories we've all heard, all of which are done by the vast minority of "Colorado Fans."

[sCrUmptious!]

It's not that the tire slashing or assaults have happened to 90% of Husker Fans, it's that 90% of us have heard the accounts of those things happening. I have never in my life ever heard of an entire section of a stadium having to be cleared out of a game because of unruliness. That fact alone lends credence to these stories, you have to admit. It shows that the mentality that would precipitate those actions exists there.

 

Here's my grievance with you Husker folks constantly referencing the '05 game: Garbage coming onto the field, though unfortunate and unsportsmanlike, happens a lot more than people think it does. Don't believe me? Check out Pat Forde's article from a month ago (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=3065672&sportCat=ncf) following a week where garbage had been thrown onto the field at Mississippi AND Alabama on the same day.

 

Furthermore, if you watch the video of the '05 game, you'll see that there wasn't all that much garbage on the field, and the garbage wasn't being thrown AT anyone (unlike, as I referenced earlier in this thread, when Brandon Drumm had garbage thrown at him in Lincoln in 2002 following a touchdown run). Pretty clearly, as is the case with nearly all garbage throwing events, it was the actions of 10 or 15 people out of 50,000+.

 

The ONLY THING that differentiates what happened at Folsom Field in 2005 from what happens at major stadiums all across the country at least 15 times every year, is that the stadium security went overboard with making sure that the situation didn't get out of hand by clearing out the section that the debris came from. Somehow, the school getting overtly proactive and clearing out a portion of the student section translated into "this school has absolutely no class" instead of "this school is actively cleaning up their fans' behavior" in the minds of college fans across the country, but especially in Lincoln.

 

On a side note...

 

On top of that, remember that back in the 1980s they wore shorter jerseys, so it didn't necessarily have to go through the breathing holes in the material. It could have gotten under the shirt.

 

I briefly tried to lead a revolution to bring back the cut off jerseys/GIGANTIC shoulder pads look of the 80's and 90's to college football. I really think that'd be beyond awesome, let the pros have their tiny pads and form hugging state of the art jerseys, and keep the college players in the oversized pads and undersized jerseys that Bo Jackson wore. Such an awesome look.

[JHaWk]

I went to Lincoln last year and I saw a bunch of NU fans drowning kittens!

OMG

 

jk

 

Just because a few drunk idiots yell or something doesnt mean all fans

are like that....that is the college atmosphere. I have never seen any

other fans complain so much about the opponents fans...

[knapplc]

The ONLY THING that differentiates what happened at Folsom Field in 2005 from what happens at major stadiums all across the country at least 15 times every year, is that the stadium security went overboard with making sure that the situation didn't get out of hand by clearing out the section that the debris came from. Somehow, the school getting overtly proactive and clearing out a portion of the student section translated into "this school has absolutely no class" instead of "this school is actively cleaning up their fans' behavior" in the minds of college fans across the country, but especially in Lincoln.

You really, really need to take off your buffalo-colored glasses, man. That section wasn't ONLY cleaned out because a couple of people tossed a little bit of garbage on the field. Do you really not know what happened? If so, why don't you know?

 

From Colorado's website:

 

Statement By Interim Chancellor Phil DiStefano Regarding Student Behavior at Nov. 26th CU vs. Nebraska Game

 

Nov. 28, 2005

 

The actions of some individuals in the student section at last Friday’s game have reflected negatively on the entire student body and the University of Colorado in general. As chancellor I am very concerned that some of our students do not appreciate the rights of other fans to attend home games in an atmosphere of good sportsmanship. No outcome on the field ever warrants poor behavior by our fans, particularly behavior that could endanger another person.

 

Each summer and fall, through new student orientation, student emails, the news media and other means, the university announces its expectation that students will conduct themselves with civility and respect for other fans at home games. As chancellor, I expect all CU students to take these instructions seriously and to abide by them at all times.

 

On behalf of the university, I apologize for the behavior of a small group that disrupted the game and inconvenienced other fans. Should any students be identified in these incidents of throwing objects or otherwise harassing other fans, they will be subject to adjudication by the university’s Office of Judicial Affairs and will be sanctioned accordingly.

This is from the "alcohol and related issues" section of your school's website.

 

It wasn't that they were throwing stuff on the field only, they were pelting the Nebraska section with whatever they could get their hands on. Do you really not know this or are you just pretending not to know what happened that night? Either way, your level of credibility is taking a serious hit by downplaying this, and further by trying to cast Colorado as the aggrieved party here by saying they weren't given enough credit for their efforts to stop the situation.

 

You want more evidence of the problem? This is from the Colorado Springs Gazette:

 

The frustrating thing is the Buffaloes had the talent to win at least one, if not both, of their past two games. That disappointment and, moreover, the embarrassment, boiled over into the stands, too.

 

Fans in the student section threw various objects on to the field, enough that officials asked that Sections 115 and 116 be cleared before the game would resume.

 

There was a 10-minuteplus delay in the game midway through the fourth quarter as both teams cleared the field.

 

Security escorted select students out of the stadium. Other students argued with police officers. And others continued to throw cups, water bottles and fruit on the field.

 

Then with 6:48 remaining, a man wearing a gold shirt with black lettering jumped over the southern end zone fence and ran the length of the football field, taking off his shirt about halfway. Upon reaching the north end of the field, a security guard stopped the man.

 

Moments later, the shirtless man was alone and quickly walking away from the stadium and the security guard, proving that the security staff at Folsom Field was as porous as the Buffaloes' secondary.

 

Want more? How about an article from USAToday:

 

A few water bottles and other debris rained down from the CU student section in the fourth quarter, forcing officials to order hundreds of fans removed for the final 10 minutes of the game. By then, CU boosters with calmer heads were already heading to the exits, their team down 27-3 and showing no signs of life.

There's more in this article about the CU team leaving their warmup area and heading toward midfield to talk trash to the Husker team. Maybe that's what prompted the students to act up - they figured that if the Colorado coaches were going to allow their team to behave that way, they would be allowed to behave however they wanted.

 

The sad reality is that this incident wasn't the first time this has happened. For over a decade these things have been going on every time the Huskers play in Colorado. It's just that this time it got so out of hand that your own security had to remove your students. How are you defending that? How are you guys the victim in that?

 

Seriously - what are you trying to convince us of? That Colorado is and always has been a welcome place for Husker Fans to watch a game? We know better, dude. The record of your behavior is there.

 

Let's remain in the realm of reality, OK?

[knapplc]

Just because a few drunk idiots yell or something doesnt mean all fans

are like that....that is the college atmosphere. I have never seen any

other fans complain so much about the opponents fans...

The fact that you are uneducated about the reality of what Husker Fans have faced in Boulder, CO doesn't mean it's not real, nor does it mean calling them on it is wrong.

 

Frankly, this "discussion" wouldn't be taking place if our friend from Colorado would simply own up to the fact that what happened in 2005 was a pretty egregious act, and stop trying to minimize it.

 

Seriously, what the hell would you do if you were watching a game in Lincoln and you started having bottles and cups full of beer (and God knows what else) thrown at you? What would you do if it got so bad that stadium security had to empty two sections? Would you just pass it off as "the college atmosphere" and forget about it?

 

What if that was your mom they were throwing bottles at, dude? What then?

[JHaWk]

im just saying dont say that all the fans are like the idiots that do

that type of bullcrap. I have heard on this board that certain Husker fans

are bullying Cally and Cosgroves familys. I dont say all NU fans are like

that, I know they are not. 99% of NU fans are class acts. Every University

has idiots. I dont slash tires..I dont throw cigarettes at people. Condemn

the people that did the act, not the entire fanbase.

[knapplc]

im just saying dont say that all the fans are like the idiots that do

that type of bullcrap. I have heard on this board that certain Husker fans

are bullying Cally and Cosgroves familys. I dont say all NU fans are like

that, I know they are not. 99% of NU fans are class acts. Every University

has idiots. I dont slash tires..I dont throw cigarettes at people. Condemn

the people that did the act, not the entire fanbase.

Did you read what I wrote? Where did I insinuate that all of their fans are like that? If you read a few posts up there I told BeachBuffs that I would bet more than 95% of their fans are fine people. It's the vast minority that gives them a bad name.

 

It's generally not a great idea to tell people who have friends who were the recipient of the bottle-and-cup barrage in Boulder that they complain too much. Just so you know.

[JHaWk]

This threads name is "KU fans are the worst" that sounds like

generalizing to me.

[knapplc]

This threads name is "KU fans are the worst" that sounds like

generalizing to me.

I'm not the original poster of this thread, home boy. If you've got a gripe with the title of the thread that's cool, but don't bring it up with me.

[sCrUmptious!]

Let's remain in the realm of reality, OK?

 

Yes, let's... I'll skip the statement from DiStefano as that said absolutely nothing to support your point.

 

 

It wasn't that they were throwing stuff on the field only, they were pelting the Nebraska section with whatever they could get their hands on. Do you really not know this or are you just pretending not to know what happened that night? Either way, your level of credibility is taking a serious hit by downplaying this, and further by trying to cast Colorado as the aggrieved party here by saying they weren't given enough credit for their efforts to stop the situation.

 

What you're alleging is impossible. Let's employ a little visual aid, shall we?

 

____

/ s s \

/ X s \

| s s |

| s s |

| |

| |

| |

| |

| OO |

| OO |

 

I call this "crude but... eh, whatever." Obviously, this picture represents Folsom Field. The X in this picture represents the section of students that was cleared out, with each s representing another student section. The O's represent the highest concentration of Husker fans in the stadium. Obviously, as with any other game, there are going to be random Husker fans scattered throughout the stadium, but this is where the Huskers are concentrated. In other words, this is "Nebraska's section" as you put it.

 

So what you're saying here is that the Colorado students, ALL of which were standing on the wobbliest bleachers in all of college football, managed to throw garbage from one corner of a football field to the exact opposite corner of the field? Gimme a minute to bust out my Pythagorean Theorem... and gimme a minute to realize that I no longer own a calculator that does square roots... okay, after my anti computations, I can conclude with every degree of certainty that the distance you're suggesting is PREPOSTEROUS. Good lord, the CU students would be lucky to hit you from that distance if they were firing potato cannons. What in the world are you talking about? The fans near the Nebraska section are all 30+ years old, I have a hard time believing that they were lobbing garbage at you guys hand over fist, or is that what you're alleging?

 

Quoting the Colorado Springs Gazette... The frustrating thing is the Buffaloes had the talent to win at least one, if not both, of their past two games. That disappointment and, moreover, the embarrassment, boiled over into the stands, too.

 

Fans in the student section threw various objects on to the field, enough that officials asked that Sections 115 and 116 be cleared before the game would resume.

 

There was a 10-minuteplus delay in the game midway through the fourth quarter as both teams cleared the field.

 

Security escorted select students out of the stadium. Other students argued with police officers. And others continued to throw cups, water bottles and fruit on the field.

 

Then with 6:48 remaining, a man wearing a gold shirt with black lettering jumped over the southern end zone fence and ran the length of the football field, taking off his shirt about halfway. Upon reaching the north end of the field, a security guard stopped the man.

 

Moments later, the shirtless man was alone and quickly walking away from the stadium and the security guard, proving that the security staff at Folsom Field was as porous as the Buffaloes' secondary.

 

What you've pointed out here is exactly what I said. Where's the discrepancy? If the refs were the ones responsible for clearing out those sections that really doesn't change much of my argument, other than the fact that it's now the refs that were treating CU students differently than every other student section in the country, instead of the CU administration. Potatoes potaatos. They threw garbage on the field, same thing that happens all over the country every season (like I said before, Mississippi and Alabama have already had this happen this season), but CU fans were kicked out whereas other refs did nothing.

 

If you're really up at arms about the streaker... uh, I don't know what to tell you. That happens thousands of times all across the country if you count highschool games, I really don't know why you included that into your attempt at slander.

 

A few water bottles and other debris rained down from the CU student section in the fourth quarter, forcing officials to order hundreds of fans removed for the final 10 minutes of the game. By then, CU boosters with calmer heads were already heading to the exits, their team down 27-3 and showing no signs of life.

 

This adds nothing to your argument. There's a MASSIVE leap here taken by the journalist that wrote this. "A FEW water bottles and other debris rained down... FORCING officials to order hundreds of fans removed".

 

In other news, and area man sprained his ankle over the weekend, FORCING him to have his leg amputated. The action simply doesn't fit the reaction.

 

There's more in this article about the CU team leaving their warmup area and heading toward midfield to talk trash to the Husker team. Maybe that's what prompted the students to act up - they figured that if the Colorado coaches were going to allow their team to behave that way, they would be allowed to behave however they wanted.

 

This is just stupid. It's a rivalry game, if you really want to get on CU's players for talking some smack before the game, I'd suggest you draw and quarter Mark Richt immediately.

 

The sad reality is that this incident wasn't the first time this has happened. For over a decade these things have been going on every time the Huskers play in Colorado. It's just that this time it got so out of hand that your own security had to remove your students. How are you defending that? How are you guys the victim in that?

 

Hey Condescending Johnson, I am not painting CU as a victim, I am defending my school from being called a villain, which it is not.

 

1. During a rout, CU students threw garbage on the field.

2. CU students kicked out of said rout.

3. During a rout, Mississippi students threw garbage on the field.

4. Mississippi students remain in stadium.

5. Repeat steps 3 and 4 anytime students anywhere other than Boulder act out of hand at a game, for any future cases that may arise within Boulder... well refs, you know what to do.

 

So here's an idea from me to you: Get off your high horse and take a big fat whiff of the crap your program has been standing in for the past 6 years. Don't act like your fans are immune to bad behavior, ESPECIALLY after this season. CU students may have thrown crap at the field, but I'd challenge you to find stories about a CU defensive coordinator receiving death threats. I'd challenge you to find stories about CU fans telling their players to scrape the buffalo off of their helmets. I'd challenge you to find stories about CU fans booing THE CHILDREN of CU's coaches. Best fans in college football? From personal experience, I'd say you're great fans... but even better frauds.

[sCrUmptious!]

BOGUS! All the spaces in my visual aid got taken away... well, forget it. I'm leaving it. I'm finishing my god damn coffee.