Cy the Cyclone Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Demorrio was also one of Solich's only 5 star recruits, which he was a JUCO 5 Star. Ya that was the knock on Solich was that he couldn't recruit and while Cally was all about recruiting. The thing is Solich was a superior talent evaluator (recruiting speed) on the defensive side of the ball. He was on the sidelines of all those speedy NU defenses, he just couldn't recruit game changers on offense. Not that Callahan ever did anyways. Cally was off in la la la land with Cozgroves Big 10 model. As soon as I saw Cozgrove move A. Carricker over to D-End after Solich/Pelini were grooming him for D-Tackle that's all I needed to see with their philosophy. And after 4 years of that along with the WCO conversion from the Option and you have the defensive fall out that we have to day. Pelini will need ample time to build this defense. Solich did recruit better to the defensive side of the ball than Clownahan did, but Clownahan did recruit better to the offensive side of the ball. It wasn't that Solich was a great talent evaluator. He did bring in Thunder Collins. This kid had so much hype, and was supposed to be the next Johnny the Jet. David Horne ring a bell? Some talent pans out while some doesn't. Randy Stella comes to mind. Even TO had this happen. Frankie London was supposed to be the next Frazier. I'm in the camp that believes we need much faster LB's than we need much faster DE's. Both would be nice, but I think an upgrade to the LB department is needed more right now. With the spread offenses out there and the quick 3 step drops, I don't even know if some of our best ever DE's would have gotten much pressure. We need those ultra fast LB's who can disrupt those passes especially in the middle. It wasn't a talent issue as much as a "I like to smoke dope" issue with Horne. He actually turned out to be pretty impressive once he got to UNI. Thunder Collins...I'm pretty sure that he graduated from "I like to smoke dope" to move on to bigger and better goals Quote Link to comment
holvy83 Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Demorrio was also one of Solich's only 5 star recruits, which he was a JUCO 5 Star. Ya that was the knock on Solich was that he couldn't recruit and while Cally was all about recruiting. The thing is Solich was a superior talent evaluator (recruiting speed) on the defensive side of the ball. He was on the sidelines of all those speedy NU defenses, he just couldn't recruit game changers on offense. Not that Callahan ever did anyways. Cally was off in la la la land with Cozgroves Big 10 model. As soon as I saw Cozgrove move A. Carricker over to D-End after Solich/Pelini were grooming him for D-Tackle that's all I needed to see with their philosophy. And after 4 years of that along with the WCO conversion from the Option and you have the defensive fall out that we have to day. Pelini will need ample time to build this defense. Solich did recruit better to the defensive side of the ball than Clownahan did, but Clownahan did recruit better to the offensive side of the ball. It wasn't that Solich was a great talent evaluator. He did bring in Thunder Collins. This kid had so much hype, and was supposed to be the next Johnny the Jet. David Horne ring a bell? Some talent pans out while some doesn't. Randy Stella comes to mind. Even TO had this happen. Frankie London was supposed to be the next Frazier. I'm in the camp that believes we need much faster LB's than we need much faster DE's. Both would be nice, but I think an upgrade to the LB department is needed more right now. With the spread offenses out there and the quick 3 step drops, I don't even know if some of our best ever DE's would have gotten much pressure. We need those ultra fast LB's who can disrupt those passes especially in the middle. It wasn't a talent issue as much as a "I like to smoke dope" issue with Horne. He actually turned out to be pretty impressive once he got to UNI. Thunder Collins...I'm pretty sure that he graduated from "I like to smoke dope" to move on to bigger and better goals Thunder= Quote Link to comment
strigori Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I dont think the issue is so much with the ends as it is with the interior. We have not had an interior defensive lineman who demanded double teams in years. Quote Link to comment
WVhuskerXX Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Hopefully Josh Williams who will be around 240-245 by next year, can come in be a factor on the edge as a RS freshman Quote Link to comment
Pedro Guerrero Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Coz tried to have Octavien rush from the edge against Mizzou last year but then he only had 2 other DL so he was getting doubled all game long which in the end defeated the purpose of having a speed rusher and this may be the reason he doesn't have a job today. The OL splits that most of the teams we play now has a lot to do with not getting a good pass rush. They spread all the DL out so far that it is hard to get to the QB. Quote Link to comment
WVhuskerXX Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 The way to counteract the wide splits is to stunt. The defensive ends stunt to the inside and the tackles go out...that has proved to be an effective way to get pressure...but you have to have athletes who are quick and can beat the oline Quote Link to comment
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