SOCALHUSKER Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Judging Big 12 coaches by conference records Posted by ESPN.com's Tim Griffin Who was it that said necessity is the mother of invention? They must have had a pretty good handle on football statistics, because I wracked my brain twice in the last week looking for a specific set of figures that I thought any upstanding conference would compile as part of a basic statistical package. Surprise for me, I guess. I wanted to find out the overall conference records of every coach in the history of the Big 12. These records are a strong tool to comparatively analyze coaches, I think. All of the games are against Division I teams (unlike overall records). And the games are typically between coaches who typically get a chance to coach against each other on more than one occasion, providing a chance to make adjustments over the years as they learn more about their opponents' tendencies. That's why I found these statistics -- compiled by me during the second half of a boring Cleveland-Atlanta basketball game last night -- to be so fascinating. Here are my Big 12 conference won-loss figures. Records are for conference games, conference championship games and overall conference records. Records of all coaches in Big 12 history Name/School Conf. game W-L Pct. Conf. title game W-L Pct. Overall conf. W-L Pct. Bob Stoops, Oklahoma 67-13 .838 6-1 .857 73-14 .839 Mack Brown, Texas 72-16 .818 1-2 .333 73-18 .802 Bill Snyder, Kansas State 53-27 .663 1-2 .333 54-29 .651 Mike Leach, Texas Tech 42-30 .583 0-0 .000 42-30 .583 R.C. Slocum, Texas A&M 34-22 .607 1-1 .500 35-23 .603 Gary Barnett, Colorado 34-22 .607 1-3 .250 35-25 .583 Frank Solich, Nebraska 33-15 .688 1-0 1.000 34-15 .694 Gary Pinkel, Missouri 32-32 .500 0-2 .000 32-34 .485 Dan McCarney, Iowa State 26-62 .295 0-0 .000 26-62 .295 Mark Mangino, Kansas 22-34 .393 0-0 .000 22-34 .393 Spike Dykes, Texas Tech 19-13 .594 0-0 .000 19-13 .594 Dennis Franchione, Texas A&M 19-21 .475 0-0 .000 19-21 .475 Tom Osborne, Nebraska 16-0 1.000 1-1 .500 17-1 .944 Les Miles, Oklahoma State 16-16 .500 0-0 .000 16-16 .500 Larry Smith, Missouri 16-24 .400 0-0 .000 16-24 .400 Bill Callahan, Nebraska 15-17 .469 0-1 .000 15-18 .455 Rick Neuheisel, Colorado 14-10 .583 0-0 .000 14-10 .583 Bob Simmons, Oklahoma State 14-26 .350 0-0 .000 14-26 .350 Mike Gundy, Oklahoma State 13-19 .406 0-0 .000 13-19 .406 Terry Allen, Kansas 10-30 .250 0-0 .000 10-30 .250 John Mackovic, Texas 8-8 .500 1-0 1.000 9-8 .529 Ron Prince, Kansas State 9-15 .375 0-0 .000 9-15 .375 Dan Hawkins, Colorado 8-16 .333 0-0 .000 8-16 .333 John Blake, Oklahoma 8-16 .333 0-0 .000 8-16 .333 Guy Morriss, Baylor 7-33 .175 0-0 .000 7-33 .175 Bo Pelini, Nebraska 5-3 .625 0-0 .000 5-3 .625 Art Briles, Baylor 2-6 .250 0-0 .000 2-6 .250 Glen Mason, Kansas 2-6 .250 0-0 .000 2-6 .250 Mike Sherman, Texas A&M 2-6 .250 0-0 .000 2-6 .250 Gene Chizik, Iowa State 2-14 .125 0-0 .000 2-14 .125 Dave Roberts, Baylor 2-14 .125 0-0 .000 2-14 .125 Chuck Reedy, Baylor 1-7 .125 0-0 .000 1-7 .125 Kevin Steele, Baylor 1-31 .031 0-0 .000 1-31 .031 Note: Active coaches are in yellow. Iowa State coach Paul Rhoads will be in his first season as a head coach in the conference. The numbers provide some interesting factoids. I think these figures indicate that the two most underrated coaches in Big 12 coaching history are R.C. Slocum and Frank Solich. Texas A&M has never had a Big 12 coach with a career winning percentage above .500 other than Slocum, who remains the only A&M coach to take his team to a Big 12 title game and win a conference football championship. Solich ranks fourth in career conference winning percentage, trailing only Hall of Famer Tom Osborne and future Hall of Famers Bob Stoops and Mack Brown. Here's a strike against the Bill Callahan era at Nebraska. Callahan is the only Nebraska coach since the start of the Big 12 era to have a below .500 career conference record. Another underrated figure from the early days of the conference was Texas Tech's Spike Dykes, who compiled an impressive 19-13 conference record in the first four seasons in the conference. The Red Raiders have had one below .500 record during the 13-season history of the conference. Want an indication of the Baylor program over the years? The three coaches who directed Baylor before Art Briles piloted the Bears to a combined 11-85 conference record, for a winning percentage of .115. That's an average of less than a victory per season. Briles was 2-6 in his first season with Baylor last season -- more than doubling the school's average in conference victories during its previous history. Bo Pelini's fast 5-3 start last season makes him one of only seven Big 12 coaches with a career winning percentage in conference games of more than .600. Mack Brown leads the Big 12 with 91 conference games -- 88 regular-season games and three titles. Dan McCarney of Iowa State is second with 88 regular-season Big 12 games. Looks like the Husker coaches have all fared well. With the exception of the unnamed!! Quote Link to comment
huKSer Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Are these in any order that makes sense? Quote Link to comment
huskerjack23 Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 it's just in order by total wins. Quote Link to comment
huskerpilot Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 wow if you look at win pct. osborne got a .944, next best is bob stoops with .839.... Way to go TO, you smoked them all! Quote Link to comment
husker B-rent Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Top six: 1) Tom Osborne 2) Bob Stoops 3) Mack Brown 4) Frank Solich 5) Bill Snyder 6) Bo Pelini 3 out of 6.....not bad! Quote Link to comment
Enhance Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 This list is weird, but still awesome to see that Nebraska coaches have some of the best W-L pct. Quote Link to comment
huKSer Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 This list is weird, but still awesome to see that all Nebraska coaches but one have some of the best W-L pct. Quote Link to comment
huKSer Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 it's just in order by total wins. OK I was looking at just the regular season wins (first column) and percent wins Quote Link to comment
SaturnDrew Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Gee......hmmmm...who could that "one" possibly be? LOL This list is weird, but still awesome to see that all Nebraska coaches but one have some of the best W-L pct. Quote Link to comment
SaturnDrew Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 After this season, I'm guessing that we'll have 3 out of 5. The question is, will Bo beat out Bill because NU rocks, or will it be because KSUcks? I'm guessing combination of both. Mathematically, I haven't figured out what each would need to win--it's Friday evening and I've been teaching math all week so I need a break from numbers. But if anybody wants to calculate this, be my guest. Top six: 1) Tom Osborne 2) Bob Stoops 3) Mack Brown 4) Frank Solich 5) Bill Snyder 6) Bo Pelini 3 out of 6.....not bad! Quote Link to comment
redout22 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 it's just in order by total wins. OK I was looking at just the regular season wins (first column) and percent wins Yeah me too Quote Link to comment
huKSer Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 After this season, I'm guessing that we'll have 3 out of 5. The question is, will Bo beat out Bill because NU rocks, or will it be because KSUcks? I'm guessing combination of both. Mathematically, I haven't figured out what each would need to win--it's Friday evening and I've been teaching math all week so I need a break from numbers. But if anybody wants to calculate this, be my guest. Top six: 1) Tom Osborne 2) Bob Stoops 3) Mack Brown 4) Frank Solich 5) Bill Snyder 6) Bo Pelini 3 out of 6.....not bad! If NU goes 5-3 again, worst case scenario (?), his percentage stays the same. If Bill the Old Guy goes 2-6 his average is 0.615, 3-5 makes it 0.626. All after a week of teaching AP Chem Quote Link to comment
SaturnDrew Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 After this season, I'm guessing that we'll have 3 out of 5. The question is, will Bo beat out Bill because NU rocks, or will it be because KSUcks? I'm guessing combination of both. Mathematically, I haven't figured out what each would need to win--it's Friday evening and I've been teaching math all week so I need a break from numbers. But if anybody wants to calculate this, be my guest. Top six: 1) Tom Osborne 2) Bob Stoops 3) Mack Brown 4) Frank Solich 5) Bill Snyder 6) Bo Pelini 3 out of 6.....not bad! If NU goes 5-3 again, worst case scenario (?), his percentage stays the same. If Bill the Old Guy goes 2-6 his average is 0.615, 3-5 makes it 0.626. All after a week of teaching AP Chem Bo winning at least 5 conference games and Bill losing 6 or more.....I would definitely take that bet! Thanks for doing the math. Quote Link to comment
rkhufu7 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 After this season, I'm guessing that we'll have 3 out of 5. The question is, will Bo beat out Bill because NU rocks, or will it be because KSUcks? I'm guessing combination of both. Mathematically, I haven't figured out what each would need to win--it's Friday evening and I've been teaching math all week so I need a break from numbers. But if anybody wants to calculate this, be my guest. Top six: 1) Tom Osborne 2) Bob Stoops 3) Mack Brown 4) Frank Solich 5) Bill Snyder 6) Bo Pelini 3 out of 6.....not bad! If NU goes 5-3 again, worst case scenario (?), his percentage stays the same. If Bill the Old Guy goes 2-6 his average is 0.615, 3-5 makes it 0.626. All after a week of teaching AP Chem Bo winning at least 5 conference games and Bill losing 6 or more.....I would definitely take that bet! Thanks for doing the math. Rank them by Big 12 titles! Quote Link to comment
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