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[knapplc]

No, that is not what I am saying at all... Suh was very special, no doubt. But to say Crick and Stein aren't capable of being equally as dominant is low-balling them a bit, imo. . . . Both Crick and Stein have all the physical tools necessary to control any given game(sorry, I thought this was common knowledge). . . . I am not saying anyone can learn Pelini's system and go out and throw 300lbs OL around like rag dolls. By that logic Bo or Carl could line up at DT and play better than Suh, because they know the system better than anybody else.

 

I am saying Crick and Stein are just as special as Suh. Maybe not as physically gifted, but all around they will be just as good, if not better.

 

Wow. Could not disagree with you more. You're talking about one of the most physically gifted and aggressive DTs of all time. Not just recently, not just at Nebraska, but for any team, anywhere, ever. And you're saying that not just one, but two of our current players are "just as special?"

 

Crick has had some pretty good games in his tenure. But where are you getting the impression that Steinkuhler is even remotely as good as Suh? Which game(s) can you point to where Steinkuhler has had a significant impact? I can point to several where he's had little to no impact at all.

 

I've talked a lot of football in my day. More than is probably good for me. I've heard some bold predictions. But this.... this is madness.

[HuskerTrucker]

Lord, I hate pre-season predictions...just as well go ask Mr. Ed. In the end, they never know what is going to happen. One injury can change everything. One kid coming out of no where can change everything.

[carlfense]

They have had both, more time in Pelini's system, and better players/experience on all levels around them than what Suh had. . . . I think the only thing that might hold them back is playing against bigger & more run-oriented OL's. And maybe the fact that they have more talent around them will hold them back some statistically, but it certainly will not stop them from effecting the game as much, if not more-so, than Suh/Crick, imo.

 

You have weird logic. It doesn't take into account the individual at all. You're pretty much saying "They've been around Bo more than Suh was, so obviously they'll be better." By that logic, I could go study with them for 4 years and be better than Suh, because that's 2 years more Pelini than Suh had. It just doesn't make sense.

 

Suh was and is an anomaly of a player.

 

 

No, that is not what I am saying at all... Suh was very special, no doubt. But to say Crick and Stein aren't capable of being equally as dominant is low-balling them a bit, imo. . . . Both Crick and Stein have all the physical tools necessary to control any given game(sorry, I thought this was common knowledge). . . . I am not saying anyone can learn Pelini's system and go out and throw 300lbs OL around like rag dolls. By that logic Bo or Carl could line up at DT and play better than Suh, because they know the system better than anybody else.

 

I am saying Crick and Stein are just as special as Suh. Maybe not as physically gifted, but all around they will be just as good, if not better.

You, sir, do not know much about football.

[hosker]

No, that is not what I am saying at all... Suh was very special, no doubt. But to say Crick and Stein aren't capable of being equally as dominant is low-balling them a bit, imo. . . . Both Crick and Stein have all the physical tools necessary to control any given game(sorry, I thought this was common knowledge). . . . I am not saying anyone can learn Pelini's system and go out and throw 300lbs OL around like rag dolls. By that logic Bo or Carl could line up at DT and play better than Suh, because they know the system better than anybody else.

 

I am saying Crick and Stein are just as special as Suh. Maybe not as physically gifted, but all around they will be just as good, if not better.

 

Wow. Could not disagree with you more. You're talking about one of the most physically gifted and aggressive DTs of all time. Not just recently, not just at Nebraska, but for any team, anywhere, ever. And you're saying that not just one, but two of our current players are "just as special?"

 

Crick has had some pretty good games in his tenure. But where are you getting the impression that Steinkuhler is even remotely as good as Suh? Which game(s) can you point to where Steinkuhler has had a significant impact? I can point to several where he's had little to no impact at all.

 

I've talked a lot of football in my day. More than is probably good for me. I've heard some bold predictions. But this.... this is madness.

 

Your taking the "special" comment out of context. I don't mean that they will be in the Heisman running(although that'd be great!), I am say that, at the very least, they will be as productive and dominant at the college level as Suh/Crick. They will take as many double teams when it's all said and done. And that my friend is "special".

 

 

Suh wasn't considered one of the best of all-time until his senior year. Up to that point, he was by all accounts very average, with some potential. . . The same can be said of Crick and Stein at this point, but I regress, that is not the point I am trying to make.

 

Steinkuhler had a more productive sophomore year than what I saw Suh had his Sophomore campaign. . . . No Stein didn't dominate any games, but either did Suh, until his Senior year. . . . And I can see that being under the Pelini brothers for five years will probably pay off bigger for Stein in the end, than it did for Suh. I don't see how that is that hard to understand or expect.

 

Crick and Suh's junior campaigns were fairly similar statistically. . . Crick is not Suh, but Crick WILL have to be accounted for just as much as Suh was his senior year(the same can probably be said of Stein down the road), that is "domination" to me.

 

With as deep as our D --esp. the DL-- is, it should be easier for Crick/Stein to control any given game than Suh/Crick. It is crazy to expect anything less, imo.

[Atbone95]

No, that is not what I am saying at all... Suh was very special, no doubt. But to say Crick and Stein aren't capable of being equally as dominant is low-balling them a bit, imo. . . . Both Crick and Stein have all the physical tools necessary to control any given game(sorry, I thought this was common knowledge). . . . I am not saying anyone can learn Pelini's system and go out and throw 300lbs OL around like rag dolls. By that logic Bo or Carl could line up at DT and play better than Suh, because they know the system better than anybody else.

 

I am saying Crick and Stein are just as special as Suh. Maybe not as physically gifted, but all around they will be just as good, if not better.

 

Wow. Could not disagree with you more. You're talking about one of the most physically gifted and aggressive DTs of all time. Not just recently, not just at Nebraska, but for any team, anywhere, ever. And you're saying that not just one, but two of our current players are "just as special?"

 

Crick has had some pretty good games in his tenure. But where are you getting the impression that Steinkuhler is even remotely as good as Suh? Which game(s) can you point to where Steinkuhler has had a significant impact? I can point to several where he's had little to no impact at all.

 

I've talked a lot of football in my day. More than is probably good for me. I've heard some bold predictions. But this.... this is madness.

 

Your taking the "special" comment out of context. I don't mean that they will be in the Heisman running(although that'd be great!), I am say that, at the very least, they will be as productive and dominant at the college level as Suh/Crick. They will take as many double teams when it's all said and done. And that my friend is "special".

 

 

Suh wasn't considered one of the best of all-time until his senior year. Up to that point, he was by all accounts very average, with some potential. . . The same can be said of Crick and Stein at this point, but I regress, that is not the point I am trying to make.

 

Steinkuhler had a more productive sophomore year than what I saw Suh had his Sophomore campaign. . . . No Stein didn't dominate any games, but either did Suh, until his Senior year. . . . And I can see that being under the Pelini brothers for five years will probably pay off bigger for Stein in the end, than it did for Suh. I don't see how that is that hard to understand or expect.

 

Crick and Suh's junior campaigns were fairly similar statistically. . . Crick is not Suh, but Crick WILL have to be accounted for just as much as Suh was his senior year(the same can probably be said of Stein down the road), that is "domination" to me.

 

With as deep as our D --esp. the DL-- is, it should be easier for Crick/Stein to control any given game than Suh/Crick. It is crazy to expect anything less, imo.

Again, you're saying that just because they've spent more time with the Pelini brothers that should make them more dominant than Suh. And I'm sorry, but that's just crazy!

[hosker]

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Again, you're saying that just because they've spent more time with the Pelini brothers that should make them more dominant than Suh. And I'm sorry, but that's just crazy!

 

 

among other things, yes. Like their own physical abilities, and the amount of talent they have around them....

[Malth]

Suh wasn't considered one of the best of all-time until his senior year. Up to that point, he was by all accounts very average, with some potential. . . The same can be said of Crick and Stein at this point, but I regress, that is not the point I am trying to make.

 

Steinkuhler had a more productive sophomore year than what I saw Suh had his Sophomore campaign. . . . No Stein didn't dominate any games, but either did Suh, until his Senior year. . . . And I can see that being under the Pelini brothers for five years will probably pay off bigger for Stein in the end, than it did for Suh. I don't see how that is that hard to understand or expect.

 

Um, what? Suh owned in his junior year. He started turning a _lot_of heads about halfway through the season when people started realizing how good he was. And it's not very fair to compare their sophomore seasons. Suh played as a freshman on one of the most poorly coached defenses we've ever had, with Pelini coming in for his sophomore season. He had to transform the entire defense, so I think it would be expected for the defensive unit as a whole to struggle a bit that year.

 

I'm sure Stein has potential to be a good player, but there has been nothing to suggest that he's going to dominate. Nobody is ever going to dominate like Suh and Crick did.

[Marf]

I'm sorry... But Suh was a once in a lifetime player.

 

Hoping for another Suh just sets yourself up for disappointment. Look at Crick. He strung together an extremely good season last year, but Husker fans were not impressed. Called him "overrated." His stat line was great, but he had to follow up on arguably the greatest defensive tackle college career ever.

 

I will be happy if teams feel the need to throw instead of run. If we get the Big 10 to try and throw against us, we will win games guaranteed. If teams can establish a run game against us... Eh. Not very optimistic.