carlfense Posted December 26, 2013 Author Share Posted December 26, 2013 Sort of funny..Wonder if it was on purpose. http://beforeitsnews...yo-2468382.html Link to comment
carlfense Posted January 1, 2014 Author Share Posted January 1, 2014 The narrative is changing . . . hmmmm . . . I guess Heritage Action is starting to wonder what their response should be when/if the ACA works and people like it. Looks like they're going with the old "we weren't wrong we were just unlucky." “If they do [succeed,] it'll be pure, irrational dumb luck,” said Dan Holler of Heritage Action for America, which has helped lead efforts to “defund” ObamaCare. “The program they designed, and the incentives they put in place, look destined to fail.” http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/01/enrollment-is-up-but-obamacare-still-faces-uncertainty-politically-and/ Link to comment
sd'sker Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 if it was what they said it was, an unmitigated failure destroying democracy and society as we know it, it would take a hell of a lot of luck for it to succeed. maybe it was just sound legislation? and the best way, given the circumstances, to fix a very real and threatening problem. Link to comment
carlfense Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 if it was what they said it was, an unmitigated failure destroying democracy and society as we know it, it would take a hell of a lot of luck for it to succeed. Still probably more attractive to spin it as luck than "we were completely wrong" or even more accurately "we've been lying to you about big scary OBAMACARE from the beginning." 1 Link to comment
sd'sker Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Still probably more attractive to spin it as luck than "we were completely wrong" or even more accurately "we've been lying to you about big scary OBAMACARE from the beginning." definitely. i would just hope people would be smarter than thinking "luck" is why it is successful, if it is. you would think they could still find a few valid criticisms to obsess over rather than this ridiculous and lazy spin. Link to comment
carlfense Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 definitely. i would just hope people would be smarter than thinking "luck" is why it is successful, if it is. you would think they could still find a few valid criticisms to obsess over rather than this ridiculous and lazy spin. gotta play to your audience. Link to comment
rawhide Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 definitely. i would just hope people would be smarter than thinking "luck" is why it is successful, if it is. you would think they could still find a few valid criticisms to obsess over rather than this ridiculous and lazy spin. gotta play to your audience. every party and msm does just that Link to comment
Mavric Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 If even Michael Moore is jumping ship...... TODAY marks the beginning of health care coverage under the Affordable Care Act’s new insurance exchanges, for which two million Americans have signed up. Now that the individual mandate is officially here, let me begin with an admission: Obamacare is awful. Link to comment
tschu Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 If even Michael Moore is jumping ship...... TODAY marks the beginning of health care coverage under the Affordable Care Act’s new insurance exchanges, for which two million Americans have signed up. Now that the individual mandate is officially here, let me begin with an admission: Obamacare is awful. Well of course it's awful. It's terrible because it doesn't go nearly far enough. Old System < Obamacare <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Single Payer Which is exactly what he goes on to argue. 3 Link to comment
Junior Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 If even Michael Moore is jumping ship...... TODAY marks the beginning of health care coverage under the Affordable Care Act’s new insurance exchanges, for which two million Americans have signed up. Now that the individual mandate is officially here, let me begin with an admission: Obamacare is awful. Well of course it's awful. It's terrible because it doesn't go nearly far enough. Old System < Obamacare <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Single Payer Which is exactly what he goes on to argue. Shhhhhh. You're not supposed to read past the first paragraph. Link to comment
carlfense Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share Posted January 3, 2014 If even Michael Moore is jumping ship...... TODAY marks the beginning of health care coverage under the Affordable Care Act’s new insurance exchanges, for which two million Americans have signed up. Now that the individual mandate is officially here, let me begin with an admission: Obamacare is awful. Well of course it's awful. It's terrible because it doesn't go nearly far enough. Old System < Obamacare <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Single Payer Which is exactly what he goes on to argue. Denial is a powerful thing. Link to comment
krill Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 If even Michael Moore is jumping ship...... TODAY marks the beginning of health care coverage under the Affordable Care Act’s new insurance exchanges, for which two million Americans have signed up. Now that the individual mandate is officially here, let me begin with an admission: Obamacare is awful. Moore was never on board; he's always been in favor of a single payer system and wrote many opinions blasting Obamacare as a handout to private insurance companies and the pharmaceutical industry. It's more than disingenuous for those who are opposed to Obamacare because it's big government, socialism, or whatever to keep quoting liberals like Moore in this context, when those individuals oppose it for the exact opposite reason. 3 Link to comment
carlfense Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share Posted January 6, 2014 For the fourth consecutive year, growth in health care spending remained low, increasing by 3.7 percent in 2012 to $2.8 trillion. At the same time, the share of the economy devoted to health fell slightly (from 17.3 percent to 17.2 percent) as the nominal gross domestic product (GDP) grew by 4.6 percent. http://content.healthaffairs.org/content/33/1/67.abstract Link to comment
carlfense Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 Obamacare — actual, real Obamacare, with doctors and cards and everything — has been operational for nearly a week now. It has been … extremely boring. It does not look like Stalinist collectivization. There aren’t even any beheadings. It looks like regular medical insurance, except several million more people now have it than had it before. . . . On the right, Conn Carroll angrily replies that the law’s demise remains “inevitable” and liberals will turn against the law, citing Michael Moore as a harbinger of pro-single-payer liberals who will help Republicans dismantle Obamacare, somehow. . . . . . . In recent weeks, it has begun to dawn on some conservatives that the actuarial death spiral they confidently predicted for years — in which the young and healthy shun the exchanges, leading to sicker and costlier patients and rising prices, in turn driving out the remaining healthy customers — may not actually transpire. http://nymag.com/dai...me-scandal.html Link to comment
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