Where do we look for the remaining 4

[NamelessHusker]

We have 21 right now. Figure in Spain and Hickman, that makes it 23. Keith Eloi will make it 24. If we take anymore, it will be 2, maybe 3 guys in case we have some academic casualties. NU will pull some offers from guys if certain high profile recruits commit. In my opinion, if we had 3 to give away, it goes to a Defensive tackle, another WR and possibly 1 more lineman

[texhusker]

We have 21 right now. Figure in Spain and Hickman, that makes it 23. Keith Eloi will make it 24. If we take anymore, it will be 2, maybe 3 guys in case we have some academic casualties. NU will pull some offers from guys if certain high profile recruits commit. In my opinion, if we had 3 to give away, it goes to a Defensive tackle, another WR and possibly 1 more lineman

Hmm nameless you think if we would have 3, one would go to a dt wr and alineman. I would think we save one for a hs cb maybe a safety and a lineman.

[husker rob]

are we limited to 25 scholarships a year or just 85 on the team or both?

[chuckd]

I believe it is both, but I'm not sure what the exact rules are.

[NamelessHusker]

You are allowed to recruit 25 players each year and give them scholarships. Anything above that is considered a greyshirt (means they pay their own expenses untill the next season when they can be awarded a scholarship) or a walk. No team can go above the 85 scholarship limit.

 

Example: X team has 63 players on scholarship, giving them 22 free scholarships for the recruiting class to hand out. If X team signs 26 guys, only 22 will get official scholarships. The rest either greyshirt or go on academic scholarships or walkon.

 

texHusker, anything is possible. Right now, in my opinion, the 1 main spot they still want is a defensive tackle for this class. Charles Deas is one prospect (although his grades are a big concern) and J.B Walton is another (although he has said he would like to say on the offensive side of the ball). One guy NU is recruiting and could end up a DT is Sir Aaron Mason who comes in next month. If NU gets a CB like A.J Wallace to commit or a WR like Jeremy Maclin, they will make room for him by pulling someone else's scholarship and asking them to greyshirt or simply just pull the scholarship if they don't want to greyshirt.

[AR Husker Fan]

are we limited to 25 scholarships a year or just 85 on the team or both?

So glad you asked.

 

From the NCAA Bylaws…

 

15.5.5 Football Limitations

15.5.5.1 Division I-A Football. [i-A] There shall be an annual limit of 25 on the number of initial counters (per Bylaw 15.02.3.1) and an annual limit of 85 on the total number of counters (including initial counters) in the sport of football at each Division I-A institution. (Revised: 1/10/91 effective 8/1/92)

 

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15.5.5.3 Initial Counters—Football (Also see Bylaw 15.02.3.1)

15.5.5.3.1 Recruited Student-Athlete Entering in Fall Term, Aided in First Year. [i-A/I-AA]  A student-athlete recruited by the awarding institution who enters in the fall term and receives institutional financial aid (based in any degree on athletics ability) during the first academic year in residence shall be an initial counter for that year in the sport of football.  Therefore, such aid shall not be awarded if the institution has reached its limit on the number of initial counters prior to the award of institutional financial aid to the student-athlete.

 

15.5.5.3.2 Recruited Student-Athlete Entering after Fall Term, Aided in First Year. [i-A/IAA]  A student-athlete recruited by the awarding institution who enters subsequent to the first term of the academic year and immediately receives institutional financial aid (based in any degree on athletics ability) shall be an initial counter for either the current academic year (if the institution’s annual limit has not been reached) or the next academic year. The student-athlete shall be included in the institution’s total counter limit during the academic year in which the aid was first received.

 

15.5.5.3.3 Recruited Student-Athlete, Aid Received Subsequent to First Year. [i-A/I-AA] A recruited student-athlete (including a student-athlete who was a partial qualifier or nonqualifier) in the sport of football who first receives athletically related financial aid subsequent to the student-athlete’s first academic year in residence shall be an initial counter for that academic year in which the aid is first received, if such aid is received during the fall term. However, such a student-athlete who first receives athletically related financial aid in the second or third term of an academic year may be considered an initial counter during the academic year in which aid was first received or the next academic year. In either case, the student-athlete shall be included in the institution’s total counter limit during the academic year in which the aid was first received.

 

15.5.5.3.4 Nonrecruited Student-Athlete Receiving Institutional Financial Aid. [i-A/I-AA]  A student-athlete not recruited by the institution who receives institutional financial aid (based in any degree on athletics ability) subsequent to beginning football practice becomes a counter but need not be counted as an initial counter until the next academic year if the institution has reached its initial limit for the year in question. However, the student-athlete shall be considered in the total counter limit for the academic year in which the aid was first received.

 

15.5.5.3.5 Midyear Replacement. [i-A/I-AA] A counter who graduates at midyear or who graduates during the previous academic year (including summer) may be replaced by an initial counter, who shall be counted against the initial limit for the following academic year. A Division I-A or I-AA institution may use the midyear replacement exception only if it previously has provided financial aid during that academic year to the maximum number of overall counters (i.e., 85 total counters) in the sport of football. (Revised: 4/20/99 effective 8/1/99, 6/8/99, 4/26/01 effective 8/1/01)

 

15.5.5.3.6 Divisions I-A and I-AA Football—Aid First Awarded Subsequent to Second Year. [i-A/I-AA] A student-athlete who has been in residence at the certifying institution for at least two academic years may receive athletically related financial aid for the first time without such aid counting as an initial award, provided the aid falls within the overall grant limitation.  (Adopted: 1/11/89; Revised: 1/10/90 effective 8/1/90)

 

15.5.5.3.7 Recruited Student-Athlete, Varsity Competition. [i-A/I-AA] In accordance with Bylaw 15.5.5.2.1, deleted, a recruited student-athlete receiving institutional financial aid certified as having been granted without regard in any degree to athletics ability becomes an initial counter in the first academic year in which the student-athlete competes on the varsity level.

 

15.5.5.3.8 Returning Two-Year Transfer. [i-A/I-AA] A student-athlete who previously was an initial counter and who transferred to a two-year college shall not be an initial counter upon return to the original institution.

 

15.5.5.3.9 Delayed Initial Counter Who Does Not Return to School. [i-A/I-AA] A student-athlete who receives countable financial aid but whose status as an initial counter under this bylaw is delayed until the following academic year shall be counted against the initial limit the following academic year, regardless of whether the student-athlete reports for participation or attends the institution in that academic year.

 

15.5.5.4 Exceptions

15.5.5.4.1 Voluntary Withdrawal. An institution may replace a counter who voluntarily withdraws from the football team by providing the financial aid to another student who already has enrolled in the institution and is a member of the football squad. For this replacement to occur, the counter must withdraw prior to the first day of classes or before the first game of the season, whichever is earlier, and provide the institution with a signed statement releasing the institution from its obligation to provide institutional financial aid and verifying the voluntary nature of the withdrawal. The institution may immediately (i.e., beginning with the fall term) award the financial aid to a student-athlete who has been a member of the team for at least one academic year and has not previously received athletically related financial aid. A student-athlete who has not been a member of the team for at least one academic year may not receive the financial aid during the fall term, but may receive it in a subsequent term (e.g., spring semester, winter quarter). (Revised: 4/28/05, effective 8/1/05)

[hootin' annie's goatfarm]

hello, I have some bad news...the dead period begins tomorrow & will not end until jan 07

 

yet, the mid-year junior coll. letter of intent date is dec 21st!

 

p.s. mitchell & williams sat in on NU's practice sat (is that the day that ruud broke his arm?)

 

2nd p.s. I believe that williams will verbal to NU - but, it may take a wk or 2

[BigWillie]

What is Keith Williams true size?

 

I've read 6'5-6'6, but alot of people say he is no taller than 6'3 honestly.

[NamelessHusker]

He's 6-5, 310 pounds. That's what he weighed in on his visit

[husker rob]

AR Husker Fan------thanks for the info. I guess that is why the University has someone on staff that does nothing but make sure the athletic department stays within the regulations.

 

since i do not have my law degree a simple yes on both parts would have been plenty. (for the most part)

 

what i dont understand is why a student that qualifies for an academic scholarship cant go to school on that, instead of a football scholarship

 

question: johnny has really good grades and wants to be a doctor. he takes the SAT and scores 1590 and 35 on the ACT. he qualifies for and accepts a full ride academic scholarship. he enrolls and begins classes in the fall term. because he is board with just going to school he wants to do something extra to challenge him and in janurary he asks if he can walk on to the football team and he is given permission by the coach and he makes the team. now that he is on the football team and he is recieving aid by the university does his scholarship now count towards the 85 limit?

[benjibean1]

Seriously Nameless,

 

Are you like the guy in the kangaroo suit hiding in the back waiting to steal the jerseys. You have a lot of knowledge that is just scary.

 

Keep up the good work my man.

[husker rob]

maybe nameless in real life is the recruiting coordinator for NU. it seems that he knows everything about everyone that is being recruited by NU. he knows when they visit, who is escorting them around campus and so on.

[NamelessHusker]

question: johnny has really good grades and wants to be a doctor. he takes the SAT and scores 1590 and 35 on the ACT. he qualifies for and accepts a full ride academic scholarship. he enrolls and begins classes in the fall term. because he is board with just going to school he wants to do something extra to challenge him and in janurary he asks if he can walk on to the football team and he is given permission by the coach and he makes the team. now that he is on the football team and he is recieving aid by the university does his scholarship now count towards the 85 limit?

 

No it does not. There's a difference between an academic scholarship and an athletic scholarship. Athletic scholarships usually are a full ride that cover pretty much everything. There is a large majority of Academic scholarships that don't cover room and board. The ones that do only cover so much of it (they get a stipend), meaning the player (or his parents) have to fork out a certain amount to cover the difference. With Academic scholarships you have to maintain a certain high GPA (usually in the 3.8+ range) to retain it, whereas in football scholarships, i think the minimum (depending on the school) is a 3.0 GPA

[husker rob]

dont athletic scholarships require a 2.0 gpa. listening to some of these guys during interviews on t.v. i think that 3.0 could be difficult to maintain unless the major was underwater basket weaving.

[husker rob]

p.s.

 

and that is at all schools, NU included.