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Harvey is a very able chancellor by all accounts, and most of the opinion to the contrary is that he reprimanded Bo one time. Bo deserved it. The backlash against HP is ridiculous.

 

Bo's been frustrated before. With the fans, with the administration. Not once has he, himself, made this public in a classless way.

 

On the other hand, Bo runs a clean program. The hundreds of student athletes that go through this program, I'm sure there are some malcontents, but most would absolutely run through a wall for him. He has their backs like nobody's business, and the backs of the assistant coaches who work under him, too. He does right by all these people, and that's putting it lightly.

 

In a CFB world riddled with actual scandal, Bo's great crime is being a d!ck to members of the media. OK, let's be clear, he's a real jerk to almost all of them. Way, way over the top. They do jobs that are at odds with each other and Bo doesn't handle the friction at all, to say the least I hope he smooths things over with these guys, sends them flowers or something. I just can't get all up in arms about it. All due respect to Shatel, Chatelain, etc, who I can respect would stick up for each other.

 

This is a fight back against Bo, and Chancellor Perlman and Shawn Eichorst are surely paying some degree of attention to the pulse of the fanbase. Let's show them it isn't all negativity, and let's define him by his loyal players and #TeamJACK, not his spat with media members, where no doubt neither side is blameless.

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I already emailed Harvey and asked that he resign.

Harvey is a smart guy. I don't always agree with him . . . but he's a hell of lot smarter than I am.

Hired Pedersen.

Hired Callahan.

Gave both huge extensions and raises.

Fired them 6 months later.

Brought Tom in to fix his mess.

Meddled in the AD and started the whole Bo leaving thing (it started after the A&M screwjob).

Tom was tired of playing referee between Bo and Harvey Tom left and now Harvey is left with this mess.

 

He hired Pederson, a move that was universally praised at the time. Pederson hired Callahan all by himself.

Tom was tired of playing referee between Bo and Harvey (care to cite that?), but that's all on Harvey?

Harvey also got Nebraska into the Big 10. Which for athletic and academic reasons was huge.

 

The job of the Chancellor of the university isn't to run the athletic department. His job is to run the entire university. And it is a job he generally does well.

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Oh, Tom is responsible too. It's why he left.

 

But Harvey lying to the media about this is more disconcerting. I heard rumors about this existing last summer. There's no way in hell Harvey didn't know.

Do you think that this is all that there is? I'd be somewhat shocked if there isn't more to come.

Oh, I'm sure there is. Every single program in the country has skeletons the the closet. Husker fans like to bury our heads in the sand and act like we're immune to it.

 

Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Harvey leaked it.

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I already emailed Harvey and asked that he resign.

Harvey is a smart guy. I don't always agree with him . . . but he's a hell of lot smarter than I am.

Hired Pedersen.

Hired Callahan.

Gave both huge extensions and raises.

Fired them 6 months later.

Brought Tom in to fix his mess.

Meddled in the AD and started the whole Bo leaving thing (it started after the A&M screwjob).

Tom was tired of playing referee between Bo and Harvey Tom left and now Harvey is left with this mess.

 

He hired Pederson, a move that was universally praised at the time. Pederson hired Callahan all by himself.

Tom was tired of playing referee between Bo and Harvey (care to cite that?), but that's all on Harvey?

Harvey also got Nebraska into the Big 10. Which for athletic and academic reasons was huge.

 

The job of the Chancellor of the university isn't to run the athletic department. His job is to run the entire university. And it is a job he generally does well.

If his job isn't to run the AD, then perhaps he should let the Athletic Director run the friggin department. Harvey signed off on Bill, and both their raises months before firing them. Just as Harvey is partly responsible for getting NU into the Big 10, getting kicked out of the AAU is on him too.

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Harvey is a very able chancellor by all accounts, and most of the opinion to the contrary is that he reprimanded Bo one time. Bo deserved it. The backlash against HP is ridiculous.

How many other university presidents have taken it upon themselves to chastise a member of Athletic Department in the media, barring a huge scandal?

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Harvey is a very able chancellor by all accounts, and most of the opinion to the contrary is that he reprimanded Bo one time. Bo deserved it. The backlash against HP is ridiculous.

How many other university presidents have taken it upon themselves to chastise a member of Athletic Department in the media, barring a huge scandal?

Saunders, I am not sure what you are saying. You are saying that Harvey should be held responsible for hiring Pederson and then giving out the extensions for SP and BC in 2007. Then you are saying he is over-stepping his "authority" by chastizing Bo in 2010. You can't have it both ways.

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If his job isn't to run the AD, then perhaps he should let the Athletic Director run the friggin department. Harvey signed off on Bill, and both their raises months before firing them. Just as Harvey is partly responsible for getting NU into the Big 10, getting kicked out of the AAU is on him too.

 

AAU politics got us ousted from there. And the fact that they consider UNMC a different campus when counting research dollars. Michigan, for example, gets to count their medical center because it is on the main campus. That, and the AAU doesn't count agricultural research dollars for some odd reason.

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Harvey is a very able chancellor by all accounts, and most of the opinion to the contrary is that he reprimanded Bo one time. Bo deserved it. The backlash against HP is ridiculous.

How many other university presidents have taken it upon themselves to chastise a member of Athletic Department in the media, barring a huge scandal?

Saunders, I am not sure what you are saying. You are saying that Harvey should be held responsible for hiring Pederson and then giving out the extensions for SP and BC in 2007. Then you are saying he is over-stepping his "authority" by chastizing Bo in 2010. You can't have it both ways.

One of those things is his job, one is not.

 

You figure out which.

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If his job isn't to run the AD, then perhaps he should let the Athletic Director run the friggin department. Harvey signed off on Bill, and both their raises months before firing them. Just as Harvey is partly responsible for getting NU into the Big 10, getting kicked out of the AAU is on him too.

AAU politics got us ousted from there. And the fact that they consider UNMC a different campus when counting research dollars. Michigan, for example, gets to count their medical center because it is on the main campus. That, and the AAU doesn't count agricultural research dollars for some odd reason.

Partially correct. I don't have much in the way of connections to the athletic department but I do have a heck of a connection to the administration at the time of the AAU issue. UNL dropped the ball. Big time. I can PM you about it if you'd like.

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If his job isn't to run the AD, then perhaps he should let the Athletic Director run the friggin department. Harvey signed off on Bill, and both their raises months before firing them. Just as Harvey is partly responsible for getting NU into the Big 10, getting kicked out of the AAU is on him too.

AAU politics got us ousted from there. And the fact that they consider UNMC a different campus when counting research dollars. Michigan, for example, gets to count their medical center because it is on the main campus. That, and the AAU doesn't count agricultural research dollars for some odd reason.

Partially correct. I don't have much in the way of connections to the athletic department but I do have a heck of a connection to the administration at the time of the AAU issue. UNL dropped the ball. Big time. I can PM you about it if you'd like.

I would actually be interested in hearing about this if it's a open invite.

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Harvey is a very able chancellor by all accounts, and most of the opinion to the contrary is that he reprimanded Bo one time. Bo deserved it. The backlash against HP is ridiculous.

How many other university presidents have taken it upon themselves to chastise a member of Athletic Department in the media, barring a huge scandal?

 

How many have had to?

 

I think you underestimate the severity of the issue then. The university was never really blind to Bo's antics. AFAIK, they tired to get Bo the message on multiple occasions before that incident. It wasn't getting through.

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I saw Harvey in Omaha the other day. I gave him a Perl of Knowledge when I told him, "You suck."

Then I understand why you would think Bo Pelini's behavior is normal.

 

I'm glad most adult people I know and work with don't function in this way.

 

Bo Pelini's behavior is normal. So what? He gets mad, he defends his players, he defends what is important to him. And he does it in a way that you might not like, but because you don't like the way he does it doesn't make it abnormal. It makes it different than what you would do. I have a hard time with people who can seemingly pass judgment about your behavior in a situation you have never been in. Yes you know yourself, but you don't know the situation, and you must be smart enough to recognize that the situation you find yourself in dictates a good part of your behavior.

 

As for the second line of that dumpster fire of a post, I like how you felt it was necessary to include the word 'adult' when describing people to imply that I'm a child. Once again, way to pass judgment about a person based on what they say on a message board. I would hope that you would be smart enough (I mean you had your own run in with this kind of situation not too long ago) to understand that message board posts are devoid of context, tone, inflection, et cetera; all of which could change the meaning of the post. But hey, maybe that's not what adults you know think like.

 

With regards to Harvey, I should say that I don't care much about the guy. He's the chancellor of the University that I attend, and that's about all I know or care to know. For anyone who thinks I'd have the audacity to say something like that to a person I know or care hardly anything about, you are dead wrong.

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