Mavric Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 At least we're leading the country in something. For those new to my CFBMatrix, this is simply coaches doing less with more. Poor recruiters do not get much for negative coach effect. This is reserved for the guys that take a top 25 recruiter and make it bowl ineligible.DEFENDING 2015 CHAMP: Brady Hoke – Michigan -5 gamesWEEK 8 CHARLIE WEIS ANTI-CE LEADER BOARD – P5Leader – 4 GamesMike Riley – Nebraska*3 GamesFrank Beamer – Virginia Tech-2 gamesButch Jones – TennesseeCharlie Strong – TexasSteve Sarkisian – USC – FIREDDarrell Hazell – PurdueJim Harbaugh – Michigan*Chris Petersen – WashingtonMark Helfrich – OregonGus Malzahn – AuburnAl Golden – Miami FIRED WEEK 9*1st Year HCs not eligible for Anti-COY-1 GameDerek Mason – Vanderbilt-1David Beatty- Kansas -1James Franklin – Penn State -1Steve Spurrier – South Carolina -1 – QUITRandy Edsall – Maryland -1Mike London – Virginia -1Mark Richt – Georgia -1Dave Doeren – NC State -1Jim Mora – UCLA -1Steve Addazio – Boston College -1Dana Holgerson – West Virginia -1#Gary Andersen – Oregon State#Rich Rod – Arizona#Jimbo Fisher – Florida State#New to the leader board in week Link Quote Link to comment
cm husker Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Obviously this is on Pelini. If he hadn't recruited so well, Riley wouldn't be eligible for the list. 8 Quote Link to comment
alwayshusking Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Riley was always pretty good on the coaching effect at Oregon State. Need that Riley to show up soon. 1 Quote Link to comment
huskerfan92 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 This is so sad, that all I could do was laugh Quote Link to comment
True2tRA Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Is this based on recruiting rankings of the incoming class when they sign? Or is it based upon the number of guys that are actually still on the team or panned out? I mean, if they're just including committed classes, is that really an accurate way to do things? We have a lot of guys that were Pelini recruits that never made an impact when Pelini was here, and haven't been impact players in Riley's tenure yet. A bunch of them aren't even on the team anymore. Obviously though, if we're talking about Riley doing less with more in THIS SEASON then it's only fair to judge him on what he actually has? Or is this just another one of those things we come up with to dump on Mike Riley....? Mauro Bondi Joe Carter Max Pirman Charles Jackson Aaron Green David Santos Zach Sterup Bubba Starling Ryan Klachko Tyler Moore Aaron Curry Corey Whitaker Leroy Alexander Jared Afalava Avery Moss Thomas Brown Paul Thurston Drake Martinez Trevell Dixon Dwayne Johnson Boaz Joseph Matt Finnin Ernest Suttles David Knevel D.J. Singleton Adam Taylor Zach Hannon Johnny Stanton Gabriel Miller Kevin Gladney Greg Hart Courtney Love A.J. Natter Deandre Wills A.J. Bush Sedrick King Jariah Tolbert Joe Keels Jaevon Walton Robert Lockhart Peyton Newell Lorenzo Stewart Monte Harrison Zack Darlington Trai Mosley Tanner Farmer I mean.....that's a lot of names. Those are all committed players from 2011-2014 that have not really been impactful here at Nebraska. Riley's only been here 10 months. Are all those let downs Rileys fault too? Get f'ing' real. 5 Quote Link to comment
TheSker Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I mean.....that's a lot of names. Those are all committed players from 2011-2014 that have not really been impactful here at Nebraska. Riley's only been here 10 months. Are all those let downs Rileys fault too? Please remind me which games we've lost this season due to being the lesser talented team? 3 Quote Link to comment
alwayshusking Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Is this based on recruiting rankings of the incoming class when they sign? Or is it based upon the number of guys that are actually still on the team or panned out? I mean, if they're just including committed classes, is that really an accurate way to do things? We have a lot of guys that were Pelini recruits that never made an impact when Pelini was here, and haven't been impact players in Riley's tenure yet. A bunch of them aren't even on the team anymore. Obviously though, if we're talking about Riley doing less with more in THIS SEASON then it's only fair to judge him on what he actually has? Or is this just another one of those things we come up with to dump on Mike Riley....? Mauro Bondi Joe Carter Max Pirman Charles Jackson Aaron Green David Santos Zach Sterup Bubba Starling Ryan Klachko Tyler Moore Aaron Curry Corey Whitaker Leroy Alexander Jared Afalava Avery Moss Thomas Brown Paul Thurston Drake Martinez Trevell Dixon Dwayne Johnson Boaz Joseph Matt Finnin Ernest Suttles David Knevel D.J. Singleton Adam Taylor Zach Hannon Johnny Stanton Gabriel Miller Kevin Gladney Greg Hart Courtney Love A.J. Natter Deandre Wills A.J. Bush Sedrick King Jariah Tolbert Joe Keels Jaevon Walton Robert Lockhart Peyton Newell Lorenzo Stewart Monte Harrison Zack Darlington Trai Mosley Tanner Farmer I mean.....that's a lot of names. Those are all committed players from 2011-2014 that have not really been impactful here at Nebraska. Riley's only been here 10 months. Are all those let downs Rileys fault too? Get f'ing' real. Yeah, it's a crude metric. Recruiting rankings only tell some of the story, plus 1st year coaches can be at a disadvantage in this metric because they are changing systems from the existing talent. That's why they have the asterisk by their names. I mean Harbaugh is at -2 and there's no question he's done a great job at Michigan thus far. Quote Link to comment
admo Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I mean.....that's a lot of names. Those are all committed players from 2011-2014 that have not really been impactful here at Nebraska. Riley's only been here 10 months. Are all those let downs Rileys fault too? Please remind me which games we've lost this season due to being the lesser talented team? Have you not seen our Offensive Line, Linebackers, Running Backs, QB and some corners? Miami and Wisconsin both have more talent. Quote Link to comment
True2tRA Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I mean.....that's a lot of names. Those are all committed players from 2011-2014 that have not really been impactful here at Nebraska. Riley's only been here 10 months. Are all those let downs Rileys fault too? Please remind me which games we've lost this season due to being the lesser talented team? We all love throwing this "talent" word around. Which teams are making plays and which aren't? I don't give a sh#t how talented any of our guys claim to be, if you ain't making plays who gives a sh#t. Your talent isn't doing anybody any good. 3 Quote Link to comment
True2tRA Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Is this based on recruiting rankings of the incoming class when they sign? Or is it based upon the number of guys that are actually still on the team or panned out? I mean, if they're just including committed classes, is that really an accurate way to do things? We have a lot of guys that were Pelini recruits that never made an impact when Pelini was here, and haven't been impact players in Riley's tenure yet. A bunch of them aren't even on the team anymore. Obviously though, if we're talking about Riley doing less with more in THIS SEASON then it's only fair to judge him on what he actually has? Or is this just another one of those things we come up with to dump on Mike Riley....? Mauro Bondi Joe Carter Max Pirman Charles Jackson Aaron Green David Santos Zach Sterup Bubba Starling Ryan Klachko Tyler Moore Aaron Curry Corey Whitaker Leroy Alexander Jared Afalava Avery Moss Thomas Brown Paul Thurston Drake Martinez Trevell Dixon Dwayne Johnson Boaz Joseph Matt Finnin Ernest Suttles David Knevel D.J. Singleton Adam Taylor Zach Hannon Johnny Stanton Gabriel Miller Kevin Gladney Greg Hart Courtney Love A.J. Natter Deandre Wills A.J. Bush Sedrick King Jariah Tolbert Joe Keels Jaevon Walton Robert Lockhart Peyton Newell Lorenzo Stewart Monte Harrison Zack Darlington Trai Mosley Tanner Farmer I mean.....that's a lot of names. Those are all committed players from 2011-2014 that have not really been impactful here at Nebraska. Riley's only been here 10 months. Are all those let downs Rileys fault too? Get f'ing' real. Don't bury this Huskerboard, like what tends to happen here. I'd like an answer to this from the OP. This whole thing seems flawed. Quote Link to comment
Polarhusker Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Is this based on recruiting rankings of the incoming class when they sign? Or is it based upon the number of guys that are actually still on the team or panned out? I mean, if they're just including committed classes, is that really an accurate way to do things? We have a lot of guys that were Pelini recruits that never made an impact when Pelini was here, and haven't been impact players in Riley's tenure yet. A bunch of them aren't even on the team anymore. Obviously though, if we're talking about Riley doing less with more in THIS SEASON then it's only fair to judge him on what he actually has? Or is this just another one of those things we come up with to dump on Mike Riley....? Mauro Bondi Joe Carter Max Pirman Charles Jackson Aaron Green David Santos Zach Sterup Bubba Starling Ryan Klachko Tyler Moore Aaron Curry Corey Whitaker Leroy Alexander Jared Afalava Avery Moss Thomas Brown Paul Thurston Drake Martinez Trevell Dixon Dwayne Johnson Boaz Joseph Matt Finnin Ernest Suttles David Knevel D.J. Singleton Adam Taylor Zach Hannon Johnny Stanton Gabriel Miller Kevin Gladney Greg Hart Courtney Love A.J. Natter Deandre Wills A.J. Bush Sedrick King Jariah Tolbert Joe Keels Jaevon Walton Robert Lockhart Peyton Newell Lorenzo Stewart Monte Harrison Zack Darlington Trai Mosley Tanner Farmer I mean.....that's a lot of names. Those are all committed players from 2011-2014 that have not really been impactful here at Nebraska. Riley's only been here 10 months. Are all those let downs Rileys fault too? Get f'ing' real. Holy crap! Never knew we lost that many players. 1 Quote Link to comment
alwayshusking Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 The talent level is low right now, you'd have to be blind to say otherwise. Doesn't mean we should be 3-5 but the roster needs to be upgraded in the worst way. We need Riley to do that regardless of what you think of him as a coach. Let's list the number of NFL draft picks that will be drafted in the next 2 NFL drafts. Meaning upperclassmen mostly. Maliek Collins Vincent Valentine Alex Lewis (potential?) Jordan Westerkamp (maybe) Nate Gerry (maybe) Alonzo Moore (if he continues to improve) The cupboard is barren. Hopefully we have more talent in the younger players. 2 Quote Link to comment
bale Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I mean.....that's a lot of names. Those are all committed players from 2011-2014 that have not really been impactful here at Nebraska. Riley's only been here 10 months. Are all those let downs Rileys fault too? Please remind me which games we've lost this season due to being the lesser talented team? We all love throwing this "talent" word around. Which teams are making plays and which aren't? I don't give a sh#t how talented any of our guys claim to be, if you ain't making plays who gives a sh#t. Your talent isn't doing anybody any good. This I totally agree with. What 'talent' do we have exactly? Who on the field is just oozing talent throughout a game? I can name maybe, at most, 5 players who I would say have more than average talent (and even that might be generous). We are mediocre all over the field, and this includes the sideline. 1 Quote Link to comment
TheSker Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I mean.....that's a lot of names. Those are all committed players from 2011-2014 that have not really been impactful here at Nebraska. Riley's only been here 10 months. Are all those let downs Rileys fault too? Please remind me which games we've lost this season due to being the lesser talented team? Have you not seen our Offensive Line, Linebackers, Running Backs, QB and some corners? Miami and Wisconsin both have more talent. So if you feel like counting Miami and Wisconsin, there's 2. What's our record again? 2 Quote Link to comment
teachercd Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Hey, I agree with a lot of this...which leads me to my biggest point. HIRE A FREAKING ACE RECRUITER either has the head coach or all of his assistants. Quote Link to comment
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