GT: Nebraska at #19 Iowa - 8PM CT - BTN

[pearljammer]

 

Unfortunately it looks like this season will be a "wash" and we will just have to hope we can get some good recruits coming in and build a team that will have success long term. I'd say you have to wait until this year's freshman class is seniors before we can really give Tim Miles a "grade".

 

In the meantime it would be nice if so-called Husker fans would just support the team and get rid of this entitled attitude like the team owes you something. Ever since PBA got built a lot of those type of fans that previously only followed football before are now "basketball fans". Take your entitled attitude and leave it in memorial stadium. Our "fanbase" can be so annoying at times.

So, you equate question the coach/being unhappy with the coach, as not supporting the team?

 

Not so much the questioning of the coach, but the attitude a lot of fans have the like the team owes them something. This knee jerk reaction of talking about firing a coach every time we have a bad stretch gets old. That's all. Just go enjoy the games and don't be such a spoiled fan base if things aren't going our way. Look where that same type of attitude has the football team. Our fanbase is a joke.

[huskerfan13]

Was listening to 1620 the Zone today and they were talking about the difference between the offensive identities between Nebraska and Creighton.

 

Basically, Creighton has one and Nebraska doesn't.

 

Creighton knows exactly what they want to do on offense and they execute it very proficiently.

 

Know has even the slightest clue what Nebraska wants to do on offense. Zero identity. Just throwing the ball around waiting for something to happen. Nick Bahe actually said he doesn't even know if Nebraska has an offensive system, legitimately can't tell if there is an actual game plan in there.

[Kiyoat Husker]

http://www.newtondailynews.com/2016/01/06/no-19-iowa-holds-off-rival-nebraska/abwbeha/

 

I thought the title of this AP article was funny:

 

No. 19 Iowa holds off rival Nebraska

 

Obviously a National writer that knows zero about the history of the two programs. I know we spent a lot of time and energy debating the existence of a football rivalry with Iowa, but how many of us would even attempt to hint at a basketball rivalry with Iowa?

 

Creighton, sure. Iowa? No way.

[pearljammer]

Yeah that is a pretty big stretch. We will be lucky to actually be Iowa's rival in basketball someday. We have a long ways to go.

[Husker no ka oi]

Typical game for neb. Score 12 points in 4.5 mins then score 10 in the next 17 mins. No center, no pg, no spot up shooters. Not getting any better, as miles didn't recruit any. Can someone tell me why we left doc go ?? I can't tell the difference.

[Husker no ka oi]

 

 

Unfortunately it looks like this season will be a "wash" and we will just have to hope we can get some good recruits coming in and build a team that will have success long term. I'd say you have to wait until this year's freshman class is seniors before we can really give Tim Miles a "grade".

 

In the meantime it would be nice if so-called Husker fans would just support the team and get rid of this entitled attitude like the team owes you something. Ever since PBA got built a lot of those type of fans that previously only followed football before are now "basketball fans". Take your entitled attitude and leave it in memorial stadium. Our "fanbase" can be so annoying at times.

 

So, you equate question the coach/being unhappy with the coach, as not supporting the team?

Not so much the questioning of the coach, but the attitude a lot of fans have the like the team owes them something. This knee jerk reaction of talking about firing a coach every time we have a bad stretch gets old. That's all. Just go enjoy the games and don't be such a spoiled fan base if things aren't going our way. Look where that same type of attitude has the football team. Our fanbase is a joke.

. Enjoy what ?? 25% shooting from 3, less then 40% from the floor, zero inside game and I mean zero, selfish players that lost all ability to pass a ball, 60% free throws, can't break a press, and the worst of all. The inability to score for periods of time that can last 10 mins while getting out scored 18-2. The team is flawed and it starts with bad recruiting. Which is on miles.

[Brouhaha]

let this sink in..

 

RPI rankings..

 

177. NEBRASKA-OMAHA

201. NEBRASKA

 

It's honestly quite laughable that you're using this as an argument to say that Nebraska-Omaha is better than Nebraska. If we both played similar opponents and they completely outplayed that team and we lost, that'd be a valid argument, but RPI is not a concrete understanding of which team is better.

 

 

 

As upsetting as it is, it's a rebuilding year. And Miles isn't going anywhere, he's got what, 3-4 years left on contract? It's Nebraska basketball. He's straightening things out. You're fooling yourself if you think Doc ever had this much raw talent sitting around. 4 Rivals 150 players? Chiiilllllll

 

If this is a rebuilding year, what was last year? How many rebuilding years can you have?

 

 

If you'd like to bash on a team that includes SEVEN first year players who previously had no experience, that's fine. But, anyone calling for Tim Miles' head either doesn't remember where this program was before he came to Lincoln or demands national championships to form in 5 years. It's absolutely ludicrous to think that the program has regressed.

[huskerfan2000]

 

let this sink in..

 

RPI rankings..

 

177. NEBRASKA-OMAHA

201. NEBRASKA

 

It's honestly quite laughable that you're using this as an argument to say that Nebraska-Omaha is better than Nebraska. If we both played similar opponents and they completely outplayed that team and we lost, that'd be a valid argument, but RPI is not a concrete understanding of which team is better.

 

 

 

As upsetting as it is, it's a rebuilding year. And Miles isn't going anywhere, he's got what, 3-4 years left on contract? It's Nebraska basketball. He's straightening things out. You're fooling yourself if you think Doc ever had this much raw talent sitting around. 4 Rivals 150 players? Chiiilllllll

 

If this is a rebuilding year, what was last year? How many rebuilding years can you have?

 

 

If you'd like to bash on a team that includes SEVEN first year players who previously had no experience, that's fine. But, anyone calling for Tim Miles' head either doesn't remember where this program was before he came to Lincoln or demands national championships to form in 5 years. It's absolutely ludicrous to think that the program has regressed.

 

 

 

I wasn't making that argument at all, you seem a bit defensive.

 

The RPI is a factor used in college basketball, and Nebraska a school from a P5 program, has a higher RPI than UNO. Excuse that away however you want.

 

Why is Miles using that many freshman in his 4th year at NU? What we will end up with is one good year every 3-4 years, then back to rebuilding. If you can't see an issue with that, then nobody can help you.

 

This team has regressed in a few ways.. one being the overall record. The biggest issue, though isn't about regression it is about progression, or lack thereof.

[SouthLincoln Husker]

 

 

let this sink in..

 

RPI rankings..

 

177. NEBRASKA-OMAHA

201. NEBRASKA

 

It's honestly quite laughable that you're using this as an argument to say that Nebraska-Omaha is better than Nebraska. If we both played similar opponents and they completely outplayed that team and we lost, that'd be a valid argument, but RPI is not a concrete understanding of which team is better.

 

 

 

As upsetting as it is, it's a rebuilding year. And Miles isn't going anywhere, he's got what, 3-4 years left on contract? It's Nebraska basketball. He's straightening things out. You're fooling yourself if you think Doc ever had this much raw talent sitting around. 4 Rivals 150 players? Chiiilllllll

 

If this is a rebuilding year, what was last year? How many rebuilding years can you have?

 

 

If you'd like to bash on a team that includes SEVEN first year players who previously had no experience, that's fine. But, anyone calling for Tim Miles' head either doesn't remember where this program was before he came to Lincoln or demands national championships to form in 5 years. It's absolutely ludicrous to think that the program has regressed.

 

 

 

I wasn't making that argument at all, you seem a bit defensive.

 

The RPI is a factor used in college basketball, and Nebraska a school from a P5 program, has a higher RPI than UNO. Excuse that away however you want.

 

Why is Miles using that many freshman in his 4th year at NU? What we will end up with is one good year every 3-4 years, then back to rebuilding. If you can't see an issue with that, then nobody can help you.

 

This team has regressed in a few ways.. one being the overall record. The biggest issue, though isn't about regression it is about progression, or lack thereof.

 

This is why using several transfers and JUCOs don't work. They are good to fill gaps, but are not here long enough to build the program. Miles has a good core from last year and is adding 3 players next year (2 freshman & a transfer) & has a freshman committed for 2017. 1 out of 3 to 4 years does not seem factual.

[huskerfan2000]

 

 

 

let this sink in..

 

RPI rankings..

 

177. NEBRASKA-OMAHA

201. NEBRASKA

 

It's honestly quite laughable that you're using this as an argument to say that Nebraska-Omaha is better than Nebraska. If we both played similar opponents and they completely outplayed that team and we lost, that'd be a valid argument, but RPI is not a concrete understanding of which team is better.

 

 

 

As upsetting as it is, it's a rebuilding year. And Miles isn't going anywhere, he's got what, 3-4 years left on contract? It's Nebraska basketball. He's straightening things out. You're fooling yourself if you think Doc ever had this much raw talent sitting around. 4 Rivals 150 players? Chiiilllllll

 

If this is a rebuilding year, what was last year? How many rebuilding years can you have?

 

 

If you'd like to bash on a team that includes SEVEN first year players who previously had no experience, that's fine. But, anyone calling for Tim Miles' head either doesn't remember where this program was before he came to Lincoln or demands national championships to form in 5 years. It's absolutely ludicrous to think that the program has regressed.

 

 

 

I wasn't making that argument at all, you seem a bit defensive.

 

The RPI is a factor used in college basketball, and Nebraska a school from a P5 program, has a higher RPI than UNO. Excuse that away however you want.

 

Why is Miles using that many freshman in his 4th year at NU? What we will end up with is one good year every 3-4 years, then back to rebuilding. If you can't see an issue with that, then nobody can help you.

 

This team has regressed in a few ways.. one being the overall record. The biggest issue, though isn't about regression it is about progression, or lack thereof.

 

This is why using several transfers and JUCOs don't work. They are good to fill gaps, but are not here long enough to build the program. Miles has a good core from last year and is adding 3 players next year (2 freshman & a transfer) & has a freshman committed for 2017. 1 out of 3 to 4 years does not seem factual.

 

 

how much would like to wager that is exactly what happens?

[SouthLincoln Husker]

 

 

 

 

let this sink in..

 

RPI rankings..

 

177. NEBRASKA-OMAHA

201. NEBRASKA

 

It's honestly quite laughable that you're using this as an argument to say that Nebraska-Omaha is better than Nebraska. If we both played similar opponents and they completely outplayed that team and we lost, that'd be a valid argument, but RPI is not a concrete understanding of which team is better.

 

 

 

As upsetting as it is, it's a rebuilding year. And Miles isn't going anywhere, he's got what, 3-4 years left on contract? It's Nebraska basketball. He's straightening things out. You're fooling yourself if you think Doc ever had this much raw talent sitting around. 4 Rivals 150 players? Chiiilllllll

 

If this is a rebuilding year, what was last year? How many rebuilding years can you have?

 

 

If you'd like to bash on a team that includes SEVEN first year players who previously had no experience, that's fine. But, anyone calling for Tim Miles' head either doesn't remember where this program was before he came to Lincoln or demands national championships to form in 5 years. It's absolutely ludicrous to think that the program has regressed.

 

 

 

I wasn't making that argument at all, you seem a bit defensive.

 

The RPI is a factor used in college basketball, and Nebraska a school from a P5 program, has a higher RPI than UNO. Excuse that away however you want.

 

Why is Miles using that many freshman in his 4th year at NU? What we will end up with is one good year every 3-4 years, then back to rebuilding. If you can't see an issue with that, then nobody can help you.

 

This team has regressed in a few ways.. one being the overall record. The biggest issue, though isn't about regression it is about progression, or lack thereof.

 

This is why using several transfers and JUCOs don't work. They are good to fill gaps, but are not here long enough to build the program. Miles has a good core from last year and is adding 3 players next year (2 freshman & a transfer) & has a freshman committed for 2017. 1 out of 3 to 4 years does not seem factual.

 

 

how much would like to wager that is exactly what happens?

 

Wow! Again I am done dealing with you!

[huskerfan2000]

 

 

 

 

 

let this sink in..

 

RPI rankings..

 

177. NEBRASKA-OMAHA

201. NEBRASKA

 

It's honestly quite laughable that you're using this as an argument to say that Nebraska-Omaha is better than Nebraska. If we both played similar opponents and they completely outplayed that team and we lost, that'd be a valid argument, but RPI is not a concrete understanding of which team is better.

 

 

 

As upsetting as it is, it's a rebuilding year. And Miles isn't going anywhere, he's got what, 3-4 years left on contract? It's Nebraska basketball. He's straightening things out. You're fooling yourself if you think Doc ever had this much raw talent sitting around. 4 Rivals 150 players? Chiiilllllll

 

If this is a rebuilding year, what was last year? How many rebuilding years can you have?

 

 

If you'd like to bash on a team that includes SEVEN first year players who previously had no experience, that's fine. But, anyone calling for Tim Miles' head either doesn't remember where this program was before he came to Lincoln or demands national championships to form in 5 years. It's absolutely ludicrous to think that the program has regressed.

 

 

 

I wasn't making that argument at all, you seem a bit defensive.

 

The RPI is a factor used in college basketball, and Nebraska a school from a P5 program, has a higher RPI than UNO. Excuse that away however you want.

 

Why is Miles using that many freshman in his 4th year at NU? What we will end up with is one good year every 3-4 years, then back to rebuilding. If you can't see an issue with that, then nobody can help you.

 

This team has regressed in a few ways.. one being the overall record. The biggest issue, though isn't about regression it is about progression, or lack thereof.

 

This is why using several transfers and JUCOs don't work. They are good to fill gaps, but are not here long enough to build the program. Miles has a good core from last year and is adding 3 players next year (2 freshman & a transfer) & has a freshman committed for 2017. 1 out of 3 to 4 years does not seem factual.

 

 

how much would like to wager that is exactly what happens?

 

Wow! Again I am done dealing with you!

 

 

So, you can't handle others having a different opinion of Tim? You say my post doesn't seem factual, so I say how much you wanna bet.. you high tail it and run? My comment wasn't about really betting money, it was a figure of speech.

 

Even I can see I can see the glaring deficiencies, and I only played through high school, though I have done some coaching.

[GBRFAN]

 

 

let this sink in..

 

RPI rankings..

 

177. NEBRASKA-OMAHA

201. NEBRASKA

 

It's honestly quite laughable that you're using this as an argument to say that Nebraska-Omaha is better than Nebraska. If we both played similar opponents and they completely outplayed that team and we lost, that'd be a valid argument, but RPI is not a concrete understanding of which team is better.

 

 

 

As upsetting as it is, it's a rebuilding year. And Miles isn't going anywhere, he's got what, 3-4 years left on contract? It's Nebraska basketball. He's straightening things out. You're fooling yourself if you think Doc ever had this much raw talent sitting around. 4 Rivals 150 players? Chiiilllllll

 

If this is a rebuilding year, what was last year? How many rebuilding years can you have?

 

 

If you'd like to bash on a team that includes SEVEN first year players who previously had no experience, that's fine. But, anyone calling for Tim Miles' head either doesn't remember where this program was before he came to Lincoln or demands national championships to form in 5 years. It's absolutely ludicrous to think that the program has regressed.

 

 

 

I wasn't making that argument at all, you seem a bit defensive.

 

The RPI is a factor used in college basketball, and Nebraska a school from a P5 program, has a higher RPI than UNO. Excuse that away however you want.

 

Why is Miles using that many freshman in his 4th year at NU? What we will end up with is one good year every 3-4 years, then back to rebuilding. If you can't see an issue with that, then nobody can help you.

 

This team has regressed in a few ways.. one being the overall record. The biggest issue, though isn't about regression it is about progression, or lack thereof.

 

 

The bold part of your statement makes no sense. Do you really think that the plan that Miles used in year 1, the year 2 plan, year 3 plan are the same plans that he will use in years 5, 6, 7. If so, your ability to see the future is poor at best.

 

Miles took over a program that had zero tradition and zero NCAA tournament wins. NU built a great facility and hired a coach with a successful history of turning around average to poor programs (similar to us). You can't just build it and they will come - referring to top 100 recruits. So he had to show some early success on the court to draw these quality recruits.

 

How did he choose to do that - go after jucos and transfers. Both these types of players are risky (there usually is a reason that they came down one of those two paths) and are only short-term fixes at best if they pan out.

 

They did pan out because they allowed NU to get on the map (for one year) - to get the better recruits interested. This past class gives him talent at every position except the 5 (we have missed there). He now can take a quality 5 and then be very choosy on using his scholarships to replace the seniors that leave each year. Besides a 5 I doubt you will see any interest from NU in a juco or transfer from 2017 and beyond.....

[huskerfan2000]

 

 

 

let this sink in..

 

RPI rankings..

 

177. NEBRASKA-OMAHA

201. NEBRASKA

 

It's honestly quite laughable that you're using this as an argument to say that Nebraska-Omaha is better than Nebraska. If we both played similar opponents and they completely outplayed that team and we lost, that'd be a valid argument, but RPI is not a concrete understanding of which team is better.

 

 

 

As upsetting as it is, it's a rebuilding year. And Miles isn't going anywhere, he's got what, 3-4 years left on contract? It's Nebraska basketball. He's straightening things out. You're fooling yourself if you think Doc ever had this much raw talent sitting around. 4 Rivals 150 players? Chiiilllllll

 

If this is a rebuilding year, what was last year? How many rebuilding years can you have?

 

 

If you'd like to bash on a team that includes SEVEN first year players who previously had no experience, that's fine. But, anyone calling for Tim Miles' head either doesn't remember where this program was before he came to Lincoln or demands national championships to form in 5 years. It's absolutely ludicrous to think that the program has regressed.

 

 

 

I wasn't making that argument at all, you seem a bit defensive.

 

The RPI is a factor used in college basketball, and Nebraska a school from a P5 program, has a higher RPI than UNO. Excuse that away however you want.

 

Why is Miles using that many freshman in his 4th year at NU? What we will end up with is one good year every 3-4 years, then back to rebuilding. If you can't see an issue with that, then nobody can help you.

 

This team has regressed in a few ways.. one being the overall record. The biggest issue, though isn't about regression it is about progression, or lack thereof.

 

 

The bold part of your statement makes no sense. Do you really think that the plan that Miles used in year 1, the year 2 plan, year 3 plan are the same plans that he will use in years 5, 6, 7. If so, your ability to see the future is poor at best.

 

Miles took over a program that had zero tradition and zero NCAA tournament wins. NU built a great facility and hired a coach with a successful history of turning around average to poor programs (similar to us). You can't just build it and they will come - referring to top 100 recruits. So he had to show some early success on the court to draw these quality recruits.

 

How did he choose to do that - go after jucos and transfers. Both these types of players are risky (there usually is a reason that they came down one of those two paths) and are only short-term fixes at best if they pan out.

 

They did pan out because they allowed NU to get on the map (for one year) - to get the better recruits interested. This past class gives him talent at every position except the 5 (we have missed there). He now can take a quality 5 and then be very choosy on using his scholarships to replace the seniors that leave each year. Besides a 5 I doubt you will see any interest from NU in a juco or transfer from 2017 and beyond.....

 

 

First off, what Tim has planed for those years is something you have no clue about, so don't act like you have any idea. Would it change? of course

 

Miles has been a .500 coach his whole career. Lets talk about the schools he has "turned around". it is funny you claim this because the longest he has been at a school was 6 years. If he turned all these programs around and has never been at a school longer than 6 years what is taking so long here.

 

Also, if he actually did turn these programs around that would mean they are still doing as good or better than when he left, otherwise it was just that 3-4 year thing I have mentioned before.

 

Miles career is attached.

 

Which school would you like to talk about first?