SCOTUS Rules Texas Abortion Restictions Unconstitutional

[HuskerShark]

 

 

We are not not a Socialist country, too.

Unfortunately, you're right. There are certain programs in our country of a socialist ideology (Social security, medicare, medicaid, etc), all of which should be done away with.

Because you know; Jesus said "f#*k your fellow man, get yours." Or was that Trump?

 

 

If you're talking about taking care of the poor, I'm all for that idea. But the idea that a government would step in, require us to pay our hard earned money, and then divvy it out to poor people is NOT the way Jesus would have intended it. It should be an entirely free will thing, not something that's forced upon people.

[NM11046]

That paragraph is full of easily correctable inaccuracies, particularly about the dangers of the procedure and the characterization of these clinics as "back alley behind the tattoo parlour or someplace similarly." I'll leave it as an exercise in Googling.

 

Kudos on your imagination, though. It's very ... imaginative.

THANK YOU ZOOGS.

[ZRod]

 

 

 

We are not not a Socialist country, too.

 

Unfortunately, you're right. There are certain programs in our country of a socialist ideology (Social security, medicare, medicaid, etc), all of which should be done away with.

Because you know; Jesus said "f#*k your fellow man, get yours." Or was that Trump?

If you're talking about taking care of the poor, I'm all for that idea. But the idea that a government would step in, require us to pay our hard earned money, and then divvy it out to poor people is NOT the way Jesus would have intended it. It should be an entirely free will thing, not something that's forced upon people.

Render unto Ceasar...

 

Something about dividing up fish...

[HuskerNation1]

Oh look, it's huskerfan2000's abortion thread!

 

But in all seriousness, this is one of the most f*cked-up things about our country - that we have a large portion of our country (and across the world I'm sure) who believe it's OK to kill babies.

 

I agree Shark...this is one of my more passionate issues. With science proving each and every day that the pre-born suffer and can feel pain at 20 weeks when an abortion is committed, yet pro-abortion groups believe they have a right to inflict this pain. It's completely mind-boggling that many on the left cannot even agree to banning late-term abortions which would be 20 weeks and beyond.

 

http://www.mccl.org/unborn-babies-can-feel-pain.html

[knapplc]

If you're talking about taking care of the poor, I'm all for that idea. But the idea that a government would step in, require us to pay our hard earned money, and then divvy it out to poor people is NOT the way Jesus would have intended it. It should be an entirely free will thing, not something that's forced upon people.

 

Matthew 25: 37-40 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’ “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

 

Mark 12:17 And Jesus answering said unto them, "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's." And they marveled at him.

[HuskerShark]

 

If you're talking about taking care of the poor, I'm all for that idea. But the idea that a government would step in, require us to pay our hard earned money, and then divvy it out to poor people is NOT the way Jesus would have intended it. It should be an entirely free will thing, not something that's forced upon people.

 

Matthew 25: 37-40 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’ “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

 

Mark 12:17 And Jesus answering said unto them, "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's." And they marveled at him.

 

 

Notice how he didn't say "Render unto Caesar your money so he can give it to those less fortunate."

 

Once again, I believe Jesus would have it be a free will offering rather than a payment to the government for them to disburse.

[HuskerShark]

Jesus also said "There will always be poor people."

[knapplc]

Jesus also said "There will always be poor people."

 

Jesus was quoting Deuteronomy.

 

Deuteronomy 15 7-11: If anyone is poor among your fellow Israelites in any of the towns of the land the Lord your God is giving you, do not be hardhearted or tightfisted toward them. Rather, be openhanded and freely lend them whatever they need. Be careful not to harbor this wicked thought: “The seventh year, the year for canceling debts, is near,” so that you do not show ill will toward the needy among your fellow Israelites and give them nothing. They may then appeal to the Lord against you, and you will be found guilty of sin. Give generously to them and do so without a grudging heart; then because of this the Lord your God will bless you in all your work and in everything you put your hand to. There will always be poor people in the land. Therefore I command you to be openhanded toward your fellow Israelites who are poor and needy in your land.

[zoogs]

Yes, birth control, sex education, and counseling should all be available. No, other people should not be forced to pay for it.

Available. I don't think it means what you think it means.

 

It's the responsibility of the individual who makes the choice to have sex and get pregnant to deal with the repercussions

Getting pregnant is not just a choice. If it were, then there would be zero unwanted pregnancies.

[HuskerShark]

 

Jesus also said "There will always be poor people."

 

Jesus was quoting Deuteronomy.

 

Deuteronomy 15 7-11: If anyone is poor among your fellow Israelites in any of the towns of the land the Lord your God is giving you, do not be hardhearted or tightfisted toward them. Rather, be openhanded and freely lend them whatever they need. Be careful not to harbor this wicked thought: “The seventh year, the year for canceling debts, is near,” so that you do not show ill will toward the needy among your fellow Israelites and give them nothing. They may then appeal to the Lord against you, and you will be found guilty of sin. Give generously to them and do so without a grudging heart; then because of this the Lord your God will bless you in all your work and in everything you put your hand to. There will always be poor people in the land. Therefore I command you to be openhanded toward your fellow Israelites who are poor and needy in your land.

 

 

He also said it again when Mary was washing his feet with the perfume.

 

But notice how he didn't say "Give your money to the government so they can give it to the poor." He purposefully said "freely give."

[knapplc]

 

 

If you're talking about taking care of the poor, I'm all for that idea. But the idea that a government would step in, require us to pay our hard earned money, and then divvy it out to poor people is NOT the way Jesus would have intended it. It should be an entirely free will thing, not something that's forced upon people.

Matthew 25: 37-40 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’ “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

 

Mark 12:17 And Jesus answering said unto them, "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's." And they marveled at him.

 

Notice how he didn't say "Render unto Caesar your money so he can give it to those less fortunate."

 

Once again, I believe Jesus would have it be a free will offering rather than a payment to the government for them to disburse.

 

 

Acts 4:32-35 All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had. With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And God’s grace was so powerfully at work in them all that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need.

 

We can quibble about who's doing the distributing - the government or the church - but it's still about as Socialist as Medicare.

 

And we can quibble about the government being "them" or "us" all you want, but Abraham Lincoln said the government was "Of the people, by the people, for the people." If the government is "them," then who is "us?"

[HuskerShark]

 

 

Yes, birth control, sex education, and counseling should all be available. No, other people should not be forced to pay for it.

I think we have extremely different definitions of the word "available."

 

It's the responsibility of the individual who makes the choice to have sex and get pregnant to deal with the repercussions

Getting pregnant is not just a choice. If it were, then there would be zero unwanted pregnancies.

 

 

Having sex is a choice, with an obvious potential result of becoming pregnant. Why would we turn our heads from the idea of personal responsibility and allow people to choose whether a baby lives or dies because they made a choice that had a result that they didn't like?

[knapplc]

Could you turn that ball like half an inch to the left before zoogs knocks it into the middle of next week? I don't think you teed it up 100% perfectly.

[HuskerShark]

 

 

 

If you're talking about taking care of the poor, I'm all for that idea. But the idea that a government would step in, require us to pay our hard earned money, and then divvy it out to poor people is NOT the way Jesus would have intended it. It should be an entirely free will thing, not something that's forced upon people.

Matthew 25: 37-40 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’ “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

 

Mark 12:17 And Jesus answering said unto them, "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's." And they marveled at him.

 

Notice how he didn't say "Render unto Caesar your money so he can give it to those less fortunate."

 

Once again, I believe Jesus would have it be a free will offering rather than a payment to the government for them to disburse.

 

 

Acts 4:32-35 All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had. With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And God’s grace was so powerfully at work in them all that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need.

 

We can quibble about who's doing the distributing - the government or the church - but it's still about as Socialist as Medicare.

 

And we can quibble about the government being "them" or "us" all you want, but Abraham Lincoln said the government was "Of the people, by the people, for the people." If the government is "them," then who is "us?"

 

 

The dots don't connect the way you want them to. Bottom line is, people work hard for their money. They shouldn't be forced to hand over a portion of it so that it can be distributed by a current-day government that has shown time and again not to be trustworthy. Giving money to the poor should be entirely by choice.

[HuskerShark]

Could you turn that ball like half an inch to the left before zoogs knocks it into the middle of next week? I don't think you teed it up 100% perfectly.

 

I can't hardly hold in my excitement to hear how it's moral to murder unborn babies.