Landlord Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 2 hours ago, Husker2019 said: When a UNL spokesman says that neither school is interested, and there's no dispute from the minny officials, I don't think just the UNL AD killed it. Keep in mind it showed up on our twitter with Riley after we won it. Iirc it never showed up on Minnesota's twitter, just the mascot and some fans' well part of that would be that they haven't won it in a while. Quote Link to comment
Saunders Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 12 hours ago, knapplc said: My understanding from informed people is that pushback on the chair initially came from Minnesota and we stood down. In 2015 UNL was allowing fans to get their picture with the Chair at the Fan Experience Pavilion. I doubt we went from actively displaying it to being the sole party to kill it over one off season (although I acknowledge stranger things have happened). And that's certainly possible too, although stuff I've read in other plays suggest it was the opposite, and that UNL brass didn't want to keep around a trophy that was tied to a fired coach. IDK. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. All I know, is that out all of our "rivalry" trophies, this is the best one, because it was born organically. Not created in a corporate think tank. 1 Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 14 hours ago, saunders45 said: Nope. UNL AD killed it, even after Riley embraced it. There's a grassroots campaign to get it back. Sounds like some fraternities are taking it upon themselves to make it a thing, just like how the MU/NU victory bell started. Maybe we can check with Minnesota Husker since he lives up here too. But I will tell you that not one Gophers fan that I know gives a damn about that trophy. A lot of them don't even remember it being a thing. Maybe it falls under the same category as Iowa being a rival. 1 Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 1 hour ago, saunders45 said: And that's certainly possible too, although stuff I've read in other plays suggest it was the opposite, and that UNL brass didn't want to keep around a trophy that was tied to a fired coach. IDK. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. All I know, is that out all of our "rivalry" trophies, this is the best one, because it was born organically. Not created in a corporate think tank. Just because it's the "best" trophy we have played for in the B1G doesn't mean that it needs to be continued. 1 Quote Link to comment
Saunders Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 21 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said: Maybe we can check with Minnesota Husker since he lives up here too. But I will tell you that not one Gophers fan that I know gives a damn about that trophy. A lot of them don't even remember it being a thing. Maybe it falls under the same category as Iowa being a rival. It's pretty popular on social media, and opposing fans loved it on reddit. 1 Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, saunders45 said: It's pretty popular on social media, and reddit. With Husker fans Quote Link to comment
Saunders Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 14 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said: With Husker fans Nope. Even among other fanbases, it was popular, because of how it came to be. https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/5dn8ht/update_5_bits_of_broken_chair_trophy_never/ https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/5dhgzq/the_university_of_nebraska_is_trying_to_hide_the/ https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/3oqcra/why_the_broken_chair_trophy_would_exist_if_it/ https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/11/23/7269933/nebraska-minnesota-broken-chair-trophy https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/11/11/13586790/nebraska-minnesota-rivalry-trophy-broken-chair I could continue with even more evidence, but there's no point. Instead of letting it grow organically over time in popularity, they killed it. Maybe we can get a new trophy that's sponsored by Hy-Vee. 4 Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Just now, saunders45 said: It was growing, and people liked it? But instead of letting it grow organically over time in popularity, they killed it. Maybe we can get a new trophy that's sponsored by Hy-Vee. You act like these are the only 2 ways of having something to play for. It's ignorant. It IS possible to not have a sponsored trophy and it's also possible to have a respectable trophy that happens over time. Husker fans desperation to have an "organic" trophy to play for is clouding their judgement at how profoundly stupid this trophy is. 1 Quote Link to comment
Saunders Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said: You act like these are the only 2 ways of having something to play for. It's ignorant. It IS possible to not have a sponsored trophy and it's also possible to have a respectable trophy that happens over time. Husker fans desperation to have an "organic" trophy to play for is clouding their judgement at how profoundly stupid this trophy is. Counterpoint: It's a fun and unique thing that was created and embraced by fans of the sport. Your opinion that it is "stupid" is a minority. 3 Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Just now, saunders45 said: Counterpoint: your opinion is a minority, and a fun and unique thing that was created and embraced by fans of the sport. Prove my opinion is in the minority. It was funny for the first year or so. I don't believe it is as embraced by both sides as you think it is. 1 Quote Link to comment
Saunders Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Just now, StPaulHusker said: Prove my opinion is in the minority. It was funny for the first year or so. I don't believe it is as embraced by both sides as you think it is. I did. You said it was only popular amongst husker fans. I provided links. And there's plenty more to find. 3 Quote Link to comment
Saunders Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Here's a list of the trophy games in the Big Ten. Illinois–Northwestern The Hat (Land of Lincoln Trophy) Illinois Northwestern 1892 Illinois–Ohio State Illibuck Illinois Ohio State 1902 Illinois–Purdue Purdue Cannon Illinois Purdue 1890 Indiana–Michigan State Old Brass Spittoon Indiana Michigan State 1922 Indiana–Purdue Old Oaken Bucket Indiana Purdue 1891 Iowa–Minnesota Floyd of Rosedale Iowa Minnesota 1891 Iowa–Nebraska Heroes Trophy Iowa Nebraska 1891 Iowa–Wisconsin Heartland Trophy Iowa Wisconsin 1894 Maryland–Penn State Maryland Penn State 1917 Michigan State–Penn State Land Grant Trophy Michigan State Penn State 1914 Michigan–Michigan State Paul Bunyan Trophy Michigan Michigan State 1898 Michigan–Minnesota Little Brown Jug Michigan Minnesota 1892 Michigan–Ohio State Michigan Ohio State 1897 Minnesota–Nebraska $5 Bits of Broken Chair Trophy Minnesota Nebraska 1900 Minnesota–Penn State Governor's Victory Bell Minnesota Penn State 1993 Minnesota–Wisconsin Paul Bunyan's Axe Minnesota Wisconsin 1890 Nebraska–Wisconsin Freedom Trophy Nebraska Wisconsin 1901 Ohio State–Penn State Ohio State Penn State 1912 The $5 trophy seems like it fits right in with a bronze pig and bucket. 3 Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Just now, saunders45 said: I did. You said it was only popular amongst husker fans. I provided links. And there's plenty more to find. That's not proof that my opinion is the minority. How about this. PJ Fleck wasn't asked at his press conferences about the trophy. Minnesota's largest newspapers haven't written articles about it's whereabouts The Gopherhole doesn't have arguments going on about it I know people within the Minnesota athletic department that have never brought it up in conversation with me when talking football A few Reddit links doesn't prove anything Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, saunders45 said: Here's a list of the trophy games in the Big Ten. Illinois–Northwestern The Hat (Land of Lincoln Trophy) Illinois Northwestern 1892 Illinois–Ohio State Illibuck Illinois Ohio State 1902 Illinois–Purdue Purdue Cannon Illinois Purdue 1890 Indiana–Michigan State Old Brass Spittoon Indiana Michigan State 1922 Indiana–Purdue Old Oaken Bucket Indiana Purdue 1891 Iowa–Minnesota Floyd of Rosedale Iowa Minnesota 1891 Iowa–Nebraska Heroes Trophy Iowa Nebraska 1891 Iowa–Wisconsin Heartland Trophy Iowa Wisconsin 1894 Maryland–Penn State Maryland Penn State 1917 Michigan State–Penn State Land Grant Trophy Michigan State Penn State 1914 Michigan–Michigan State Paul Bunyan Trophy Michigan Michigan State 1898 Michigan–Minnesota Little Brown Jug Michigan Minnesota 1892 Michigan–Ohio State Michigan Ohio State 1897 Minnesota–Nebraska $5 Bits of Broken Chair Trophy Minnesota Nebraska 1900 Minnesota–Penn State Governor's Victory Bell Minnesota Penn State 1993 Minnesota–Wisconsin Paul Bunyan's Axe Minnesota Wisconsin 1890 Nebraska–Wisconsin Freedom Trophy Nebraska Wisconsin 1901 Ohio State–Penn State Ohio State Penn State 1912 The $5 trophy seems like it fits right in with a bronze pig and bucket. So because Minnesota plays Iowa and Michigan for stupid trophies, Nebraska should too? Solid argument. smh 1 Quote Link to comment
Saunders Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said: That's not proof that my opinion is the minority. How about this. PJ Fleck wasn't asked at his press conferences about the trophy. Minnesota's largest newspapers haven't written articles about it's whereabouts The Gopherhole doesn't have arguments going on about it I know people within the Minnesota athletic department that have never brought it up in conversation with me when talking football A few Reddit links doesn't prove anything 1. How many other trophies was Fleck asked about? 2. Ok? This was born from the internet. 3. Eh? First google search is a poll where they want it to be a thing. http://www.forums.gopherhole.com/boards/showthread.php?64478-Would-you-like-to-see-the-5-Bits-of-Broken-Chair-Trophy-become-official 4. Anecdote, but ok. 2 Quote Link to comment
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