Archy1221 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 15 minutes ago, commando said: the GOP wants someone who leans far right to be moderator. someone fair and balanced like tucker carlson and his favorite bag of M&Ms No. Just neutral would be perfect 2 1 Link to comment
TGHusker Posted January 24, 2023 Author Share Posted January 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Archy1221 said: Good, maybe we won’t have to deal with anymore Candy Crowley and Chris Wallace schilling for Dems moderating performances. I get Candy Crowley - she was terrible. Chris Wallace was fine. Trump just didn't like the questions. 3 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 46 minutes ago, TGHusker said: I get Candy Crowley - she was terrible. Chris Wallace was fine. Trump just didn't like the questions. Chris Wallace brought up the debunked letter from the 51 partisan idiots who tried to sway an election to shut down a piece of the debate. He shouldn’t have done that. 1 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 3 hours ago, Archy1221 said: No. Just neutral would be perfect That's your opinion. I don't believe that's the party leader's opinion. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 52 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: Chris Wallace brought up the debunked letter from the 51 partisan idiots who tried to sway an election to shut down a piece of the debate. He shouldn’t have done that. A moderator is like a ref in a football game. If you nitpick every single thing they say, you will never find the perfect one. Wallace is one of the better ones and Republicans shouldn't have a problem with him. 4 1 Link to comment
TGHusker Posted January 25, 2023 Author Share Posted January 25, 2023 God help us all if Marge ever gets close to the WH as VP. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/marjorie-taylor-greene-aims-trumps-vp-pick-2024-rcna67266 Quote Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., is angling to be Donald Trump's running mate in 2024, according to two people who have spoken to the firebrand second-term congresswoman about her ambitions. "This is no shrinking violet, she's ambitious — she's not shy about that, nor should she be," said Steve Bannon, the former top Trump aide who hosts the War Room podcast, where Greene has been a guest. "She sees herself on the short list for Trump's VP. Paraphrasing Cokie Roberts, when MTG looks in the mirror she sees a potential president smiling back," he added, referencing Roberts, the late political reporter who worked for NPR, ABC News and other outlets. second source who has advised Greene said her "whole vision is to be vice president." The source, who has ties to Trump but spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe private conversations, said he also believes Greene would be on Trump's short list. That goal is at the heart of Greene's recent efforts to rebrand herself as a politician who can stand astride the divide between the party's hard-liners and its establishment wing, the sources told NBC News. It also helps explain why she threw herself into helping elect Rep. Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., speaker of the House after the midterm elections and took assignments on two committees — Homeland Security and Oversight and Accountability — where she can participate in high-profile investigations of President Joe Biden's administration. McCarthy also tapped her to be part of the panel investigating how the government handled the COVID-19 pandemic. Her push for McCarthy alienated some of her allies in the House Freedom Caucus and like-minded conservative activists, but that was a calculated risk, according to Bannon. "She's both strategic and disciplined — she made a power move, knowing it would run up hard against her most ardent crew," he said. "She was prepared to take the intense heat/hatred short-term for the long-term goal of being a player." Trump has not publicly given any indication that he is seriously considering a vice-presidential pick at this early point in the process, and aides did not respond to NBC News’ inquiries about Greene’s chances of ending up on a Trump ticket. "Congresswoman Greene is laser focused on serving the people of Northwest Georgia on her new committees in the GOP majority," Greene spokesman Nick Dyer said. "Her work on Oversight, Homeland Security, and the COVID Select committee is her priority and people shouldn’t get wrapped up into rumors." 1 1 Link to comment
TGHusker Posted January 25, 2023 Author Share Posted January 25, 2023 Who wants to be the first one to throw there name in the ring for trump to take target shots at?? https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/25/trump-republican-primary-challengers-2024-00079298 Quote Those preparing to challenge Donald Trump in the GOP’s presidential primary are taking their time, privately discussing the prospect of waiting until spring or summer to get in, according to three Republican strategists familiar with different candidates’ deliberations. Part of it is strategic: an effort to make someone else an early Trump foil. Part of it is fear: wariness around their own ability to raise money to sustain a drawn-out campaign. “It’s very, very quiet,” said Wayne MacDonald, a New Hampshire lawmaker and former Republican Party chair in the first-in-the-nation primary state. It appears increasingly likely to stay that way for far longer than once expected. On Tuesday, one likely candidate, former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, told CBS News it may take a “handful of months” for him to decide whether to run. An adviser to one potential presidential candidate has discussed with members of at least two other potential candidates’ teams the advantage of multiple candidates announcing around the same time, according to one Republican strategist briefed on those talks. The conversations, which took place earlier this month, were informal. But they suggest a common recognition among Republicans of what the strategist called “strength in numbers” in a primary involving Trump. The proximate cause of the frozen primary is Trump, the former president and only declared candidate in the race. Finding himself on an empty primary stage, he has still managed to be tripped up by everything from classified document retention to dinners with antisemites. The former president is preparing to ramp up his campaigning in the days and weeks ahead, with pronouncements and stops in South Carolina and New Hampshire. But his bumpy start has sapped some of the sense of urgency from the cast of potential also-rans. Link to comment
TGHusker Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 This article details how hard it will be for the GOP to once again win the popular vote. In 2024 it will be 20 years since they last won the popular vote. Under the current state of the GOP, I see no way in the world they will win the popular vote again - not until they create a bigger tent that pulls in minorities and moderate voters. Trump and team knew this going into 2020 - thus they tried to win by fraud. If the Dems had nominated anyone but Hillary in 2016, they would have most likely have held the electoral college along with the popular vote. I'm quoting the beginning and the ending of the article below. There is a lot of facts and figures in between that show how bad off the GOP is in regards to the popular vote. If the Dems nominate someone respectable (No Harris and Biden is toooo old) and the economy isn't in the dumps and there is no WW 3 with Russia, they should win again in 2024. https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/3830161-2024-will-mark-20-years-since-republicans-last-won-the-popular-vote-can-they-rebrand-in-time-to-stop-losing-streak/ Beginning Quote 2024 will mark a sorry anniversary for the Republican Party: 20 years since President George W. Bush’s 2004 reelection campaign won both the popular and Electoral College votes. That feat has since eluded three GOP presidential nominees and one incumbent. The critical question is, “Are Republicans capable of nominating a winning ticket to halt this embarrassing losing trend?” I doubt it since rapidly changing demographics are reducing the Republicans’ popular vote count in battleground states. In between - a lot of stats showing how dire the situation is for the GOP Ending Quote The Republican Party faces a crisis due to its shrinking white voter base unless it makes commensurate gains among the growing non-white electorate, which totaled 33 percent of voters in 2020 and which Biden won 71 to 26 percent over Trump. That 33 percent will increase in 2024. Nearly 20 years after he became the last Republican to win the popular and electoral votes, George W. Bush has ironically become an outcast in a Trump-dominated party. GOP voters in 2024 are unlikely to nominate a candidate who can match Bush’s 2004 achievement, which will require a major realignment and rebranding. 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 15 minutes ago, TGHusker said: This article details how hard it will be for the GOP to once again win the popular vote. In 2024 it will be 20 years since they last won the popular vote. Under the current state of the GOP, I see no way in the world they will win the popular vote again - not until they create a bigger tent that pulls in minorities and moderate voters. Trump and team knew this going into 2020 - thus they tried to win by fraud. If the Dems had nominated anyone but Hillary in 2016, they would have most likely have held the electoral college along with the popular vote. I'm quoting the beginning and the ending of the article below. There is a lot of facts and figures in between that show how bad off the GOP is in regards to the popular vote. If the Dems nominate someone respectable (No Harris and Biden is toooo old) and the economy isn't in the dumps and there is no WW 3 with Russia, they should win again in 2024. https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/3830161-2024-will-mark-20-years-since-republicans-last-won-the-popular-vote-can-they-rebrand-in-time-to-stop-losing-streak/ Beginning In between - a lot of stats showing how dire the situation is for the GOP Ending The summary at the end is what the party will completely ignore. They have their base that absolutely loves the messaging they have put out and loves the MAGA candidates they seem to support. That is driving the rest of the country away. Now, if the Dems want to capitalize on that, don't be stupid. Nominate reasonable candidates that are likable to the majority of the public. Have reasonable ideas that a lot of people can get behind. And..they should be fine. It's just sad that there isn't a conservative party right now that I can get behind and feel comfortable voting for their candidates. Link to comment
TGHusker Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 minute ago, BigRedBuster said: The summary at the end is what the party will completely ignore. They have their base that absolutely loves the messaging they have put out and loves the MAGA candidates they seem to support. That is driving the rest of the country away. Now, if the Dems want to capitalize on that, don't be stupid. Nominate reasonable candidates that are likable to the majority of the public. Have reasonable ideas that a lot of people can get behind. And..they should be fine. To counter the bold - the GOP has the SC locked up. They will raise h$ll to get the election before the court. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Just now, TGHusker said: To counter the bold - the GOP has the SC locked up. They will raise h$ll to get the election before the court. And they have proven to be willing to lie about it any way they can to accomplish that. And...a certain but significant section of their base will eat it up. Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 17 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: The summary at the end is what the party will completely ignore. They have their base that absolutely loves the messaging they have put out and loves the MAGA candidates they seem to support. That is driving the rest of the country away. Now, if the Dems want to capitalize on that, don't be stupid. Nominate reasonable candidates that are likable to the majority of the public. Have reasonable ideas that a lot of people can get behind. And..they should be fine. It's just sad that there isn't a conservative party right now that I can get behind and feel comfortable voting for their candidates. The GOP is making good inroads with the Hispanic population which happens to be the fastest populace. 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: The GOP is making good inroads with the Hispanic population which happens to be the fastest populace. Still, 60% voted Democrat. Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 28 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: Still, 60% voted Democrat. I get that, but it’s not gonna change overnight and they seem to be doing things that are making Hispanics switch parties. 1 Link to comment
TGHusker Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 44 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: The GOP is making good inroads with the Hispanic population which happens to be the fastest populace. I hate it when the computer freezes up when I'm in the middle of posting a lot of stuff. So this is attempt #2 in answering this Trump received 32% of the Hispanic vote in 2022 up slightly from 29% in 2016. Biden's Hispanic support was 66% vs Hillary's 65%. So there appears to be a slight bump in turnout and voters going towards the GOP. HOWEVER, this is a far distance from the high water mark of GWB 2004 campain of 40% and still far below Reagan's performances in 1980 & 84. Due to the demographics of the Hispanic voter, the Dems will probably always have the upper hand due to their social programs. However, the GOP has gotten away from their messaging as the 'Family Values Party" (it is debatable if that was ever a true label or just messaging - most likely the later but I digress). Leaving that message behind & turning towards storming the capital 'nationalism' is a mistake as the Hispanic culture is centered around 'family values'. Until the GOP moderates their policies, I don't see that 40% highwater mark being hit again. With the aging of white America, the GOP is slowly suffocating under its own worn out and out of date dogma. https://www.latinousa.org/2015/10/29/the-latino-vote-in-presidential-races/ http://latinousa.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/PewHispanic.png 2022 Dems 66% GOP 32% 2016 Dems 65% GOP 29% http://latinousa.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/PewHispanic.png https://www.as-coa.org/articles/chart-how-us-latinos-voted-2020-presidential-election 2 Link to comment
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